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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Flcelloguy (talk | contribs) at 20:47, 20 December 2005 (Re: [[User:Maoririder]]: Comment). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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so, you don't like my edits?

so, you don't like my edits?

I nominated this article on Miscellany for Deletion on the grounds stated by you in WP:AN/I. Firebug 09:18, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

my anon account

You're right, which is why I edited my Talk page, because I can never remember the IP address I use from work (which won't let me use cookies), and I was going to come in tonight and make a note on the anon Talk and User pages to verify that it's me. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I appreciate your kind words, they mean alot to me. I don't know what's going to happen here and it's hard to watch, but, as Bartyl's and James put it, "thank you for your support."Gator (talk) 22:26, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I hope your can review your vote for Wang Sichao

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wang_Sichao

I've added some comment there. And I think this guy is importance or significance enough.

Yaohua2000 22:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Esperanza elections

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Hi Android79: This is a quick note just to let you know that there's an election under way at Esperanza. If you'd like to become a candidate for Administrator General or the Advisory Council, just add your name here by 15 December 2005.

Voting begins at 12:00UTC on 16 December and all Esperanza members are encouraged to join in.

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REDVERS 09:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sig

It doesn't look so nice in Internet Explorer. The whole top part gets chopped off, but oh well. :) — 0918BRIAN • 2005-12-14 19:27

Merovingian's sig

Hmm, nobody seems to have registered that username.  :) Anyway, I chose it because I wanted something neat and my old colorful signature doesn't work. Hot dogs are fine, too. --King of All the Franks 00:58, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Behave

That was an Austin Powers reference? That totally flew past me! Ha! FreplySpang (talk) 01:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome

Thank you for your welcome & help. I'm intentionally unregistered though. --137.120.195.172 17:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I just replied there. — 0918BRIAN • 2005-12-16 14:12

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Hi

Barnstar added for protecting pages and reverting vandalism. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 21:19, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy to create a NPOV article on the above named article. User:Fortunelounge might be new, but I am not. I am sure I could make it quite neutral, and there are others who have agreed to help out as well. We just want a reassurance that it won't be speedy deleted as "recreation of deleted content". Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 16:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hopefully I've covered your concerns at the DRV discussion. If not, let me know there or here. I've watchlisted the article and will be able to see if it gets speedied. android79 16:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This aims to be a launch page for regional cultures. This is different from going to a single country and not looking at it in the context of its region. Also the article aims to highlight cultural similarities within regions, not just single cultures by themselves. Just as someone wanting to know about the US might just want to know a summary of US culture rather than an article length bit about it, so people may want to know a little about regional differences in cultures from a broad geographical perspective, not looking up each and every country specifically.

The advantage of a top-down approach is you can get the ball rolling much more easily; I don't have time, or maybe even an interest in writing a culture of East Asia article. But by putting it out there, we can bring in the masses to contribute however much they want and build up the article little by little. That's one of the best of advantages of wiki over traditional encyclopedia.--Culturesoftheworld 16:56, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Android. Well, to be honest, I'm rather skeptical about this user ever being serious, and find his behavior bears serious resemblance to a certain small being that shall remain unnamed. Personally I don't see much evidence that he's ever really tried to contribute usefully in good conscience, although I know that the holidays seem to being out the worst in some people and vandalism is high this time of year (though, conversely, people who appear this time of year sometimes appear just to make trouble as an outlet for negativity, etc.).

However, even assuming good faith, I think that at least a month or two is warranted -- not as punishment, but because in my experience a time out (which is the purpose, IMHO) is generally only effective if it's in proportion to the insistence of the behavior. And Maoririder is one insistent user. I fear that he'll be happy to wait a few days and then come back with a vengeance -- and the fact that he's still doing "drive-bys" leaving messages about "n***az" and calling me a "redneck" tells me that he's not angry, but he's trying to provoke a reaction.

So that's where I am. At this point I'd support (and carry out) reducing the block to expire no sooner than 31 January 2006, which would give him time to cool off and truly reflect on his actions if they're motivated by misunderstanding and anger rather than maliciousness and a desire to provoke reactions in others. Otherwise, I won't reblock him if someone else unblocks, but I wouldn't support it (not that my support is necessary, by any means). And I'm happy to open up the discussion for more input, but would suggest a good set of links that give a representative sample of his behavior are easily accessible for those who are asked to weigh in.

Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 18:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. This is what I mean BCorr|Брайен 19:17, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If you could go ahead and pull that together that would be great -- I should really stop checking my watchlist every 30 minutes and get some other work done for a while ;-). I'd be happy to add to your list if you'd like, and I also think that User:Lucky 6.9 has a better grasp of the whole situation than I do. Thanks again, BCorr|Брайен 19:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. I think Lucky's on a break for the holidays, which is a shame. android79 19:42, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Another P.S.: User:169.244.143.115 (contribs) is pretty clearly the same person, IMHO. Not only are they both from Maine, but they both started making legal threats within minutes of each other, and they both spent days adding {{reqimage}} tags to random articles (look back where theirs is the last edit). When this IP was blocked they started going on in a purposefully confusing manner about how they were going to sue "the other person" using the IP when it was clearly them all along. In addition, this IP uses a different, but also characteristic style to try to appear different from Maoririder, but the template adding and edited articles give them away. Part of my skepticism stems from this. Many thanks, BCorr|Брайен 19:45, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Android79. Regarding the situation with Maoririder: I think reducing the block down to one week would be more appropriate, and if the behavior persists or if he starts again, apply a longer block (two weeks) and keep on doing this until he either gets the point or he's indefinitely blocked. I'm willing to continue my attempts at mediation with him here. Thoughts? Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 20:47, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Repetitive sarcasm

I came here to say exactly what Morwen said. So: Yup. android79 15:37, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If that was the case, then rather than professing your support for Morwen's snide sarcasm, you would have been better suited simply shutting up! If so many believe as you do, then I'm certain numerous other individuals with more maturity and greater self-control left her comments as they stood without professing lemminglike agreement. Bastique 19:09, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I've brought up the issue on the style page. I was actually angry to see Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter but Gerald Ford. I'm hoping it will actually generate intelligent debate rather than, "Well we discussed this years ago and that's the way it's going to stay." commentary. The double standard still remains. I changed Lewis Libby to Scooter Libby out of spite. So what's the difference? I didn't know his name was Lewis? Scooter Libby seems to be the appropriate name. Bastique 19:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps I'm too young, but I've never heard Ford referred to as anything but "President Ford" or "Gerald Ford". You say you are "angry" and complain of a "double standard". I think you are reading way too much into this, and you certainly shouldn't be making page moves out of "spite". android79 19:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]