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Based on the code found on User:Havok's page and {{User en}} Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 21:48, 2005 August 31 (UTC)

Images

"Fair use" images, such as logos, should NOT be on anything other than ARTICLES. Put the Firefox logo back and the image WILL be deleted. Alphax τεχ 03:57, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See the description page of the image, threatening prior to reading that (avalible on the images description page), copyright paranoia is bad for health. --Cool Cat Talk 08:43, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh someone messed with the image I was using... Anyways see below --Cool Cat Talk 08:46, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Logo for Firefox Browser, intended for use to reference the name of the browser and thus this use is fair.

Moreover, we have permission to use this for promotional purposes; e.g., on a user page. From a Mozilla FAQ: "Can I put Firefox or Thunderbird banners on my website? Can I link to you?" Answer: "Thanks for your support :-) Of course you may. We have button programs for exactly this:"[1].

From mozilla.org "Put one or more of these buttons on your website to help us spread the word about Firefox. We appreciate it!"

From: Template:Fair use-firefox

Your Wikipedia userpage is not "your website", it's part of the GFDL licenced Wikipedia project. Wikipedia policy does not allow copyrighted images in this context, so wether or not the law and the copyright holder permit it is a moot point in this case, and IMHO there is no point in starting down that slipperly slope by challenging that. If we start allowing some images to be used and not others things will get even more confused than they are now, and enforcement (wich have been very lax in the past) will become next to impossible. Better to keep things simple and just say no unfree images outsite article namespace. Period. --Sherool 15:12, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Using/with

I'm very sad about this edit. Sure, it's a line shorter. But now not only is the template inconsistent with all the other similar templates, but also it ruins a bad joke I'd made parodying the wording of these templates! Of course, it was already pretty spoiled when the format changed from the absurd "This user uses X" to "This user contributes using X", but still. Blah. -205.188.116.132 14:11, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

alternate version

The alternate version now in fox1

ie, if you want a red version, use {{User fox1}}. pfctdayelise 15:03, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I see this stupid box has changed yet again. Can't we just make two diffrent boxes and get along?--Ewok Slayer --(User | Talk | Contribs) 22:14, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, didn't know, changed it to the other look now →AzaToth 22:28, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Images!

Template:Userbox browser I notice how {{userbox browser|mozilla firefox}} contains the logo, so why can't this template. Infact, if you look on Userbox, you will find lots of logos in use, so I don't see the fuss over the one? Ian13ID:540053 21:53, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I quote from the image copyright tag: "It is believed that we have permission to use this for promotional purposes; e.g., on a user page." Therefore, I plan to reinstate the tag shortly, unless any objections over the image on the image are raised.

The following pages link to this file:

  • User:Tedernst
  • User:Eurleif
  • User:John Kenney
  • User:Pipian
  • User:Masssiveego
  • User:T-Boy
  • User:Salmon
  • User:ClockworkSoul

...

Ian13ID:540053 21:56, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Neither of them should have images as far as I'm concerned (unless you can find a free alternative that is "close enough" (I believe for example the globe without the fox is not copyrighred)). The logo remains copyrighted and we don't even allow "with permission" images in articles anymore, so I don't see how theyr permission to use it on "your site" change anyting with regards to Wikipedia policy on copyrighted material in userspace. The usual response at this point tend to be "but promoting FireFox on my userpage doesn't hurt Mozillas non existing commercial interests", to wich I can only reply that not using theyr logo on your userpage in no way hurt you either, while using it makes it that much harder to enforce the "ban" on copyrighted material in userspace because others will look at the firefox logo and think it's "free for all". Gah I probably sound like some rule thumbing grouchy old "policy for the sake of policy" guy, but I remain convinved the "no copyrighted stuff in userspace period" is the best policy, even if "common sense" is against it in scertain cases (like when a user upload a copyrighred image of himself). Long storry short copyrighted stuff in userpscae, with permission or otherwise is an unnessesary "taint" on the supposed GFDL status of the Wikipedia. In articles stuch images at least serve a purpose, on userpages they are defenently not needed. Remember userpages and everyting on them are also mirrored at a lot of sites, for example [2] and [3] --Sherool (talk) 01:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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