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WikiProject Chicago was started on July 5, 2005 to coordinate work on articles related to Chicago, Illinois in the English Wikipedia.

Anyone who is interested in contributing, please sign up below and post any ideas and suggestions on the Talk page. Also, feel free to edit this page and add any articles that need serious work or that you feel require attention below in the Open Tasks sections.

Chicago, Illinois

Scope

This WikiProject aims to coordinate improvment efforts on articles related to Chicago and the surrounding area. It is also an aim of this project to bring the Chicago city article up to Featured Article status, in part by bringing it up to the standards defined by WikiProject Cities.

Parentage

The parent of this WikiProject is WikiProject Cities.

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Members

Project members, please add {{ChicagoWikiProject-Member}} to your user page to identify yourself as a member of the project.

Open Tasks

Feel free to add any articles that need to be addressed or improved to this list. When adding a page, place {{ChicagoWikiProject}} on the articles talk page.

Here are some open WikiProject Chicago tasks:

  • Improve sub-articles referenced in Chicago, Illinois:
    • Climate of Chicago talks about averages, but the weather is characterized by extremes. No mention of the huge variation in conditions across the area at a given time.
There are some stats now about one-day temp swings and extremes. OK? DavidH 06:59, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
    • Community areas of Chicago there are 77 subpages here, surely someone can contribute something.
    • Demographics of Chicago needs to describe the various ethnic enclaves.
    • Geography of Chicago needs to discuss what the land was like before all those skyscrapers went up.
    • Notable citizens of Chicago - could be livened up with some pictures, heavy on entertainment/politics types, short on scientists/economists/architects
    • Law and government of Chicago - no mention of voting, err, "irregularities"
      • Federal troops arrive in Chicago to assist in maintaining order after the death of Martin Luther King.
      • Steven Pera and Alan Schwanderer unsuccessfully attempt to poison Chicago's water supply in a very ambitious plot to kill all of mankind and repopulate the world.
      • Death of Mayor Richard J. Daley from a heart attack in his doctor's office at the Drake Hotel.
      • Short reign of Mayor Eugene Sawyer. (Who is penniless and near-destitute in 2005?)
      • Election of Mayor Michael Bilandic.
      • Election of Mayor Jane Byrne after 1979 snowfall angers Chicagoans enough to defy "The Machine". (Mike Royko writes an article expressing his sincere pride in the way Chicago voters grabbed their power back.)
      • Mayor Jane Byrne takes up residence in the Cabrini-Green Housing Project in order to improve city services in the project.
      • Election of Mayor Harold Washington after close race with Bernie Epton, in which race was a major focal point.
      • Alderman Ed Vrydolyak leads 29 alderman who oppose virtually everything Harold Washington seeks to accomplish.
      • Mayor Richard M. Daley bulldozes Meigs Field in the middle of the night.
    • Landmarks of Chicago - pitifully short list
    • Parks of Chicago - another meager list; C'mon, this is "Urbs in Horto"!

Chicago Collaboration of the Week?

I was thinking that it might be helpful to start a "Chicago Collaboration of the Week" (or maybe two weeks like the United States Collaboration of the Week). We have a great list of red links and fairly important sub articles (ie. Community Areas of Chicago has to potential to be an excellent article because of the cities great diversity) and it might behoove us to start coordinating work on them. Of course, we are all still working on Chicago, but there is more to be done then just that. I will start a page for the Chicago(land?) Collaboration of the Week and we could hold a discussion there and decide if we want to do this. --Gpyoung talk 20:35, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Articles (Red Links)

Template for Chicago

This is an outline that was proposed on the Chicago talk page awhile ago. It seems a little long to me, but its a good start towards making the article more in-depth. I think we can also revise it to include more Chicago-specific topics (ie. Under Law and Government-a sub section about machine politics since Chicago is (sadly) pretty well known for that)

  • History
This needs to read less like a timeline. The chicago fire needs to be expanded on a bit, as it destroyed the whole city. -- BMIComp (talk)
Agreed-History section is a lot of nothing-Expand Important events ----Gpyoung talk 00:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Agree in principle but as a minor technicality the chicago fire didn't actually destroy the whole city. It certainly left major parts of it in ruins but much of the early neighborhood growth on the North, West and South side was a direct result of the fire. Many of the neighborhoods existed then but population and industry was concentrated in the loop. Maybe I'm being too picky. Jasenlee 21:29, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
  • Law and government
    • Crime (proposed)
Mafia. Gangsters, Al Capone.. St. Valentine's Day Massacre -- BMIComp (talk)
Can this even be included under History? We can break crime up into current crime rate ect. and Historical Mob crime ----Gpyoung talk 00:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Social & Contemporary Issues (proposed)
  • Environment (proposed)
    • Geography
    • Climate
    • Bodies of water
    • Agriculture (proposed)
Is there much agriculture in the city itself? -- BMIComp (talk)
Nope-I would lose this one ----Gpyoung talk 00:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest that while the Chicago article probably doesn't warrant a traditional Agriculture section we should consider the many Farmer Markets that operate around the city. Perhaps something like this would belong in a different section. Thoughts? Jasenlee 21:29, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
    • Flora (proposed)
    • Maps (proposed)
I just dont see how Maps has to do with enviornment ----Gpyoung talk 00:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Urban Area
    • Suburbs
  • Economy
    • Major industries and products
    • Taxes
  • Demographics
Many of the subs just seem to be stats-i dont think they need their own subs ----Gpyoung talk 00:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Households
    • Age
    • Income
    • Demolingustics (proposed)
  • Education (proposed)
    • Public education (proposed)
    • Private education (proposed)
    • Charter schools (proposed)
    • Libraries (proposed)
    • Colleges & universities
  • Communications and media
  • Arts & culture
    • Museums & Galleries (proposed)
    • Zoos (proposed)
    • Aquariums (proposed)
    • Cultural Centers (proposed)
    • Buildings & Landmarks (proposed)
    • Music (proposed)
    • Film & TV (proposed)
    • Theater & Stage (proposed)
    • Folklore (proposed)
    • Cuisine (proposed)
    • Parades & Holidays (proposed)
  • Sports
    • College (proposed)
    • Professional
    • Stadiums (proposed)
This section should fit into the college and professional ones-talk about stadiums w/ the teams ----Gpyoung talk 00:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Health & medicine
  • Transportation
I would get rid of both of these and make this section more about CTA and roads/highways ----Gpyoung talk 00:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't because I think other items like Taxis or Airports are significant and would in my opinion be appropriate under a Transportation section. Jasenlee 21:29, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
There is already Streets and highways of Chicago; is this not enough? Kelly Martin 03:34, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
I agree, perhaps the person who added this didn't see that section. Jasenlee 21:29, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
  • Tourism and recreation
    • Events & Festivals (proposed)
    • Shopping (proposed)
    • Attractions
  • Infrastructure (proposed)
    • Utilities (proposed)
  • Religion (proposed)-I would think that this whole section can go under People and Culture ----Gpyoung talk 00:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Notable houses of worship (proposed)
  • Sources and further reading (proposed)

Now, this is a very rough list. It needs to be consolidated and revised, but I think step one for the Chicago article is reorganizing it and this is a good start. Add any section-sepcific comments directly to the list and feel free to add to it or move things around. --Gpyoung 9 July 2005 17:09 (UTC)

I agree that this is a rough list but I think that we should always keep a living version of it as over time I've used it as inspiration on topics to write about. Many times it has spawned a bit of colorful research and has given me ideas for other sub articles. I suspect it will/does the same for others. Perhaps members of this project can develop a voting process for anytime one of these new sections is promoted to the main article? Jasenlee 23:47, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Chicago Main Page Image

Some objections have been raised about the changing of the picture on Chicago. This was done based on theo objections from the last time Chicago was nominated as a Featured Article; many people found this image to be ugly and thought that it did not do the city justice. However, it has come to my attention that a vote was held a while back (~6 months) on whether to change to picture and they decided not to. Personally, I do not feel that this article can be elevated with this image on its header, and there are much better ones to choose from. Most of the editors who voted to keep the image are no longer active on the article, and since this Project has undertaken some major improvment work on it, I think another vote is warrented. If anyone object to this, please feel free to state your opinion. It should also be noted that an invitation to join the project was sent to everyone who was active on the article, even as far back as the time of the vote, this includes the anon who changed the picture on the new infobox template created by BMIComp and myself. I will post notice of the vote on the Chicago talk page, but I think it should be conducted here, as issues like this were the reason that WP:Chi was founded. --Gpyoung talk 20:33, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For those who are looking, the vote is at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/PictureVote

Chicago FAC

Just to let everyone know, since the picture vote had ended, I tallied the results and changed the picture in the infobox (number #3 won). I also finally nominated Chicago as a featured article, I hope it goes well! --Gpyoung talk 18:14, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

FAC Failed

Okay my fellow Wikipedian's, the FAC failed and I think we need to redouble our efforts. I know everyone has tried really hard but let's not be too anxious. We should spend some serious time evaluating the work we have all done. Take a moment to go over all past peer reviews and make this the best city article out there. Let's get this project extremely active and build on that. Before anyone resubmits for a FAC I think we should have a vote. Agreed?

My suggestion is that we all start dumping tasks in the to-do section and then evaluate and prioritize them. From that point we can all start working ad-hoc or assigning tasks to specific individuals. Thoughts? Jasenlee 01:55, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

Personally, I think the FAC vote was ended prematurely, as it was still active and votes were still being placed and objections acted upon. I have sent a message to Raul654 who is in charge of the Featured Articles asking him to continue the vote, as I think it was very close and there were only a few outstanding objections that were in the process of being fixed.
That aside, I do agree that our efforts have to be doubled, or even tripled. Our biggest problems were pictures. One of the more vehement complaints was that 4 or 5 images were not free and as hard as I tried, I couldn't find replacments in time (once again-ended too early). User:bmicomp has contributed some really great free images that have been inserted throughout the article, but we need more. Also, we need to interconnect the article. It was written by many different people and hence, sounds like it was written by many different people. Some minor editing should fix this fairly quickly.
As for voting before we nominate the article, I agree, although this being WikiProject Chicago and as we know first hand, voting in Chicago is never straightforward and easy, as we saw in the picture vote. I do apologize if people did not want the article nominated when it was. I was in fact the one who nominated it, however I was under the impression that the plan was to nominate it as soon as the picture vote ended.
Hope we have better luck next time. --Gpyoung talk 02:49, 5 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sister Cities

I strongly disagree with the addition of a new sub section called Sister Cities. This was once a sub article and it has been moved into the main article. It is nothing more than a list and in my opinion doesn't qualify as sub section unless someone can create some meaningful prose. I'm going to move this to a sub article within the next 5 to 7 days unless I hear any strong and reasonable objections. Other thoughts? Jasenlee 02:32, August 19, 2005 (UTC)