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Note that listings more than five days old should now be moved to Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Old.

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April 18

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- *No Apparent reason for an article about this school. Exploding Boy 11:08, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)

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Apparently not a character in classical mythology but a modern creation in the Xena: Warrior Princess TV show. I have no problem with articles on fictional characters but the context should be made clear. This article is confusing, spells the subject's name two different ways, etc. Delete until some Xena fan does a proper article. JamesMLane 12:20, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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Self-promotion, irrelevent, etc. Snowspinner 22:07 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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  • Devious - one of these days some people are going to create a complete universe of falsehood and we won't know where to start unravelling. This one's easy - Delete. Pteron 02:41, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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Please delete : Tattinger family and The Tattinger family ? both incorrectly spell the family name. I made a new page Taittinger family. JillandJack 15:13, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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This article reads like a personal essay that attempts to support an undergrad's original research by referring to Buddhist philosophy. The essence of this page is a table of concepts apparently original to ScottPerry that claims to be "An overlay of the Buddhist model of addiction onto the most commonly accepted Western world-view". The overlay incorrectly represents "the most commonly accepted Western world-view", especially in the context of addiction medicine, and misrepresents by omission how Buddhist philosophy has significantly influenced western behavioral medicine. The article does not support claims that anything is "the" Bhuddist definition. If the article cited some published sources that are used in actual Buddhist schools of teaching (not Buddhists schools of "thought"), it would begin to be an accurate assessment. Otherwise, it is one person's point of view about how their individual understanding of Buddhism offers what they see as a better approach to the idea of addiction than does their perception of "western" approaches. The sole source cited to support this essay is another on-line personal essay, the author of which admits was written "partly for my own pleasure". In as much as the article accurately summarizes Buddhist approaches, it could stand as a subsection of the addiction article. Whatever is not rooted in other Buddhist sources can be published in a forum more suited for personal essays. Torrid 17:56, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete Torrid 17:56, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Merge with addiction and/or Buddhism and delete. Postdlf 22:23 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete: original research, so don't merge w/ Buddhism or addiction. BTW the "add to this debate" link above is broken. Wile E. Heresiarch 21:06, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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    • keep as is, seems OK now ping 07:45, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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This page looks like complete rubbish at first site. On closer inspection I expect it to be a transcript of a Japanese or Chinese joke. Unlikely to turn into article. Wrong language anyway -- MGM

  • Delete, support own suggestion. - MGM 20:08, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)
  • delete that puppy. Lefty 23:08, 2004 Apr 22 (UTC)
  • delete: The whole idea seems inherently POV Lefty 18:44, 2004 Apr 22 (UTC)

Vote: Delete. Agreed. Mat-C 23:07, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • delete: The whole idea seems inherently POV Lefty 18:44, 2004 Apr 22 (UTC)

Vote: delete: Agreed, seems a silly term to me...... even "alternative" is bad enough.Mat-C 23:04, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Ad. RickK

1 sentence quote, unlikely to become an article. Maximus Rex 03:06, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • Can't seem to find any reference to the Shaw behind Shaw's law. My guess is that some enterprising sort appended it to an early chain letter. Rhymeless 04:40, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Another thing Wikipedia is not - a collection of witty sayings. Delete. SWAdair | Talk 07:17, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Neutral, but it has been floating around for some time. I heard this in the 80s or earlier. -- Jmabel 09:10, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • One (POV) line of text, two large paragrahps of quotes, and one see also link. RickK 04:59, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Exploding Boy 08:11, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)
  • Expand. I've heard of him. He's an interesting enough kook to merit an article. -- Jmabel 09:13, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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  • Keep as redir. Andrewa 06:31, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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A waste of wikipedia resources. Its presence means that it has bypassed the grounds by which it was defeated. Arno 12:23, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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This section describes how to list articles and their associated talk pages for deletion. For pages that are not articles, list them at other appropriate deletion venues or use copyright violation where applicable. As well, note that deletion may not be needed for problems such as pages written in foreign languages, duplicate pages, and other cases. Use Wikipedia:Proposed mergers for discussion of mergers.

Only a registered, logged-in user can complete steps II and III. (Autoconfirmed registered users can also use the Twinkle tool to make nominations.) If you are unregistered, you should complete step I, note the justification for deletion on the article's talk page, then post a message at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion requesting that someone else complete the process.

You must sign in to nominate pages for deletion. If you do not sign-in, or you edit anonymously, you will get stuck part way through the nomination procedure.

I – Put the deletion tag on the article.
  • Insert {{subst:afd1}} at the top of the article. Do not mark the edit as minor.
    If this article has been nominated before, use {{subst:afdx|2nd}} or {{subst:afdx|3rd}} etc.
  • Include in the edit summary AfD: Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NominationName]]. replacing NominationName with the name of the page being nominated. Publish the page.
    The NominationName is normally the article name (PageName), but if it has been nominated before, use "PageName (2nd nomination)" or "PageName (3rd nomination)" etc.)
II – Create the article's deletion discussion page.

The resulting AfD box at the top of the article should contain a link to "Preloaded debate" in the AfD page. Click that link to open the article's deletion discussion page for editing. Some text and instructions will appear.

You can do it manually as well:

  • Click the link saying "deletion discussion page" to open the deletion-debate page.
  • Insert this text:
    {{subst:afd2 | pg=PageName | cat=Category | text=Why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
    Replace PageName with the name of the page, Category with a letter from the list M, O, B, S, W, G, T, F, and P to categorize the debate, and Why the page should be deleted with the reasons the page should be deleted.
  • If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
  • Use an edit summary such as Creating deletion discussion for [[PageName]]. Publish the page.
III – Notify users who monitor AfD discussions.
  • Open the articles for deletion log page for editing.
  • At the top of the list on the log page (there's a comment indicating the spot), insert:{{subst:afd3 | pg=NominationName}}
    Replace NominationName appropriately (use "PageName", "PageName (2nd nomination)", etc.)
  • Link to the discussion page in your edit summary: Adding [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NominationName]]. Publish the page.
  • Consider letting the authors know on their talk page by adding: {{subst:Afd notice|Page name}} ~~~~
    If this is not the first nomination, add a second parameter with the NominationName (use "PageName (2nd nomination)" etc.): {{subst:Afd notice|PageName|NominationName}} ~~~~