Talk:Libertarian socialism

Congratulations on the new version, it's much tighter. But perhaps it could be expanded a bit on some issues, for example on why do anarchists oppose private property but not personal possesions, why do they oppose hierarchy, etc. Daniel

From Errico Malatesta:

...an Italian libertarian socialist (anarchist).

Should we do all the libertarian socialists like this, or what? Our options are:

libertarian socialist (anarchist)
libertarian socialist (aka anarchist)
anarchist (more accurately, libertarian socialist)
anarchist (link goes to libertarian socialism, but says "anarchist")

Ah, words. -- Sam Francis

I was thinking about this too. What I did for Chomsky was

anarchist (libertarian socialist)

I don't know if that's better than the ones above. I think that "anarchist" should definitely appear before "libertarian socialist" if that's what the person called themselves. DanKeshet

That's probably the best thing: put what they call themselves first. But then, the meaning of the word "anarchist" has changed since the time of many of these people. "Revolutionary Socialist" used to mean "anarchist."

Whichever describes them best should be the link, then, but what they called themselves should come first. But of course, some, like Mikhail Bakunin and Peter Kropotkin really should have a link to the anarchism page, regardless. -- Sam Francis

I've started using [[libertarian socialism|anarchist]]. For Kropotkin and the like I'm going to put see also: anarchism. -- Sam

Sounds good to me. Of course, everybody's welcome to question the organization of the pages into anarchism, l-s, a-c, etc. This is a scheme set before I did any serious work on the pages, but one that made sense to me. DanKeshet

Makes sense to me too. Not that I've ever bothered looking at anarcho-capitalism. --Sam

Some libertarian socialists say that theirs is an internally antagonistic philosophy, but that such antagonism is necessary to satisfy both the necessary liberty of the individual and the harmony of the society. Others feel that the two are symbiotic, and that the liberty of the individual guarantees the harmony of the society, and vice-versa.

Graft: Does this mean "Some libertarian socialists believe that individual liberties and societal harmonies are opposing goals that must be balanced, while some believe that they're symbiotic goals that promote one another"? (Not that this wording is better, I just want to rephrase what you said to make sure I understand.) DanKeshet

Yes, you got it. Graft