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The result of the debate was Keep WhiteNight T | @ | C 18:10, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Central Bank of Cuba

There's no such thing as the "Bank of Cuba". It's actually called the Central Bank of Cuba. Alr 00:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Link to an external web site. Also delete UVL, which redirects to Universal Videogame List. - Kenwarren 18:08, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete. Ianb 18:10, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete Josh Cherry 19:52, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia is not a web directory. Delete. -- Cyrius|✎ 23:18, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Alexa traffic 406,541. Delete. SWAdair | Talk 01:47, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete, Wikipedia is not Google.
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The result of the debate was speedy deleted. (ESkog)(Talk) 05:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The J&P Sports Network

I bring you a site with a whopping grand total of

36

Members!!!! (Does not meet WP:WEB for the pedantic) WhiteNight T | @ | C 00:13, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was keep --Ichiro 08:07, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Native Guns

This appears to be a non-notable rap group. They have no listing on allmusic, and the small number of links returned by Google are mostly either geocities or myspace pages. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 10:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The second half of this article is a copyvio of their MySpace webpage, http://www.myspace.com/kiwi Can't sleep, clown will eat me 00:13, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Article appears well researched and deals with an important Filipino hip hop/rap group. Yes, it's absolutely correct that non-USA rap (or any non-English language rap for that matter) is not generally covered by All Music Guide, no matter its quality or importance to its local culture or subculture, all the more reason such groups be covered here. Badagnani 12:38, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Please review WP:MUSIC. Which inclusion criteria does this group meet? Can't sleep, clown will eat me 12:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Furthermore, these musicians are born and raised in California, what do you mean by non-USA rap group? Can't sleep, clown will eat me 12:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • An Internet search shows that the group is well known and performs widely in Filipino and Asian Pacific American cultural festivals, and that it is one of the more active and well regarded hip hop groups in the Filipino American hip hop subculture (probably the third most important hip hop subculture in the U.S. after African American and Puerto Rican American). Further, the group's work frequently appears in Filipino and Asian Pacific American print and radio media. Has also toured throughout the U.S. and Canada. From WP:Music:
        • "Is cited in notable and verifiable sources as being influential in style, technique, repertory or teaching in a particular music genre."
        • "Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture."
        • "Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour over notable musical venues in at least one large or medium-sized country[1], reported in notable and verifiable sources."

Badagnani 00:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, fails WP:MUSIC based on the article, and I can't find anything that would show otherwise. And there really is no systemic bias against Californians. - Bobet 13:30, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete lets start a systemic bias against Californians! (actual reason: fails WP:MUSIC per above). --Pboyd04 15:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the article on the Native Guns should not be deleted on the grounds that they are a not only a staple in current Filipino-American hip-hop culture, but of independent (indie) hip-hop music and are also well known activists for human/Asian Pacific American rights. They are known within that community and yes while they are NOT on allmusic.com, so aren't Francis Magalona, or Andrew E. who's impact in the history of Philipppine-based Filipino hip-hop cannot be disputed. Neither are even "Asin" or Florante who are national stars and heroes and whos anti-Marcos songs such as "Upuan" and "Balita" played a big role in the inspiring the famous 1986 EDSA People's Power Revolution and also have had their songs along with Freddie Aguilar translated into more than 20 languages and have become hit songs in other countries other than the Philippines. What these artists meant to Philippine-based hip-hop and rock then is exactly what the Native Guns mean to the Filipino-American hip-hop community now. It should also be noted that the Native Guns' Kiwi, (born Jack DeJesus) went to high school with the world famous Black Eyed Peas' Apl.de.ap (Allan Pineda) as well as Will.i.am and was one of the influences young Allan had upon moving here from the Philippines. Furthermore the Native Guns have been featured in numerous magazine and newspaper articles, and were named one of L.A.'s "Top 10 Most Intriguing Bands" by the L.A. Alternative Press. Links:

Native Guns featured in Canada's Vancouver Georgia Straight Weekly-[[2]] Named one of L.A.'s "Top Ten Most Intriguing Bands"-[[3]] Featured in asianweek.com- [[4]] Fil-Arts Fest- [[5]] sfweekly.com- [[6]]

The duo was also featured in Jointz Mag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.251.125.85 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 30 December 2005 User:Wikipedian13

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  • Comment - Hey this is Kiwi of the Native Guns. i just found out about all this recently, so bear with me. anyway, as far as the article, yes there's some cut-n-paste, but whatever's written about us looks satisfactory. not sure how else to go about this. we're also mentioned in an article on wikipedia regarding filipino hip hop [[7]]. i can clean it up if need be, but for the most part, it's accurate. if you need me to add or clarify anything let me know groundworkmusic@yahoo.com. as far as whether or not we're 'worthy' of being on here well that's not my decision but i think the track record speaks for itself. sorry if i didn't follow the format, i never even heard of wikipedia until now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.4.166 (talk • contribs)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletions. -- Rob 01:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city
  2. Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture.
Information is verifiable under multiple sources (specifically within the APIA music and activism scene), including:
  • Locus Arts- [[8]] Vancouver's Under the Volcano- [[9]]
  • APAture- [[10]]
  • UCLA's Ethnomusic archives (call #200305_0005)- [[11]]
  • Festival of Phillipines ART & Culture- [[12]]
  • East Bay Express- [[13]]
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bankuei (talk • contribs)
  • comment - Some people make bad-faith copyright violation nominations, in order to do an end run around the {afd} procedure. An article I started was on the receiving end of someone willing to take advantage of the three week long backlog in addressing copy-vios. So I checked this assertion. The copy-vio assertion is solid. I went back to the beginning of the article, to see whether rhe article could be saved by reeling back to an earlier version that was not a copy-vio. The very first contributor's version incorporated material from its external links.
    • This does not mean there should be no article about this band. If the original author of the material on the myspace web-pages that has been incorporated into this article releases it under an appropriate liscence, or puts their material in the public domain, the copy-vio concern goes away... -- Geo Swan 22:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Excellent article, seems notable enough. Kevin 22:51, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Looks notable to me. A.J.A. 00:28, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Well researched, needs some help with the style, but overall no way that this should be deleted. Soo 01:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep --Terence Ong Talk 14:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Keep. enochlau (talk) 00:33, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Takis Fotopoulos

Like the things he links to at the bottom of this page, which reads like a resume with a legal threat at the end, with links to other nn articles related to him that were deleted. Let's get rid of this vanity page as well. Delete karmafist 00:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(legal threat from anon article creator deleted). karmafist 04:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ADDENDUM

Since yesterday’s announcement some of the main points we made in it have already been confirmed! Thanks to the technical work of some administrators who showed that they function without any political agendas against us but instead attempted to find out the truth, Paul Cardan (the disgruntled ex-member of the journal with a vendetta against us who was the main cause of the first AfD against Democracy & Nature through his repeated vandalising attacks against it) and User:DisposableAccount (who proposed the deletion of the successor journal to D&N and with the support of two (2) administrators managed to have it deleted), Llbb and Bbll (who persuaded other administrators to keep the page deleted) are all the same editor! [15] Meanwhile, other administrators still doubt whether the present announcement is a genuine Editorial Board announcement. Here is the proof: [16]

The Editorial Committee of The International Journal of Inclusive Democracy 10:30 (UTC) January 2, 2006

User:Narap43

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The result of the debate was redirect --Ichiro 02:28, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Softness

Can this ever be any more than a dictdef? Grutness...wha? 00:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete. enochlau (talk) 00:35, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

O'Loughin's Restaurant

Non-Notable restaurant. No claim to notability, Google search revealed that article creator spelled the restaurant name wrong. Wrong spelling gets 18 hits, correct spelling gets 99 hits. VegaDark 00:28, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I wasn't implying that A7 covered establishments. I was only pointing out that it had been expanded to cover more than people, i.e. biograhpical articles. PJM 06:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete. enochlau (talk) 00:36, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ranvir Bassi

Unverified (and unverifiable) and poorly formatted. It looks for all the world like a hoax. I was half-inclined to put it up for speedy deletion, but I'm not sure it fits comfortably into those guidelines.... – Seancdaug 00:32, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted. (ESkog)(Talk) 05:49, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Revenger skulls of triton

Non-notable, perhaps mythological, band whose name gets a whopping zero google hits, despite three albums (?) listed in 2002 (allmusic hasn't heard of them either). I am marking parallel article Revengers skull of triton as CSD (empty). Delete. bikeable (talk) 00:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was keep, because merging requires keeping and the consensus is to merge this someplace. Merging isn't the job of AFD, though, so any interested party can feel free. —Cleared as filed. 21:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Baroque metal

This article repeats both Power Metal and Symphonic Metal. It is well worded as such, but essentially is still a stub repeating a full length article. It also focuses on only certain bands of the form, coming across highly as somoene advertising their favourite bands. This article as such doesnt warrent an article, and a redirect should be left to the Power Metal article. Leyasu 00:45, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. When the article gets a distinction in which the difference is explained between baroque metal on one hand, and power metal and symphonic metal on the other, I'll change my vote. But for now, I don't think that it's possible since the styles seem pretty much the same thing.SoothingR 00:55, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge into Symphonic metal. As much as it is fashionable to cull back on metal articles currently in the Wikipedia, the article is still well-written (bar the final paragraph in my opinion) and should not be totally overlooked either way. Hauser 07:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment How on Earth does this warrent being merged into Symphonic Metal when, A) Symphonic Metal is nothing alike this, and B)The article nominated for deletion repeats Power Metal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leyasu (talk • contribs)
  • Merge. I'm with Hauser on this one. Rhapsody (baroque) is the same as Stratovarius (symphonic) to my ears. It's just proving a point. Perhaps, merge, then redirect, change the first paragraph of Symphonic Metal to acknoledge Baroque Metal? - CorbinSimpson 10:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Read both the Symphonic Metal and Power Metal articles. Also note that Stratovarius and Rhapsody are both commonly known as Symphonic Power Metal which is mentioned on the Symphonic Metal article. When suggesting to merge, it is normally a good idea to merge pages that have relevance to each other, and are not mostly void of each other. Leyasu 16:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Merge per Hauser, and somebody take the entire metal fan community out and shake them until they can come up with a set of agreed objective genres instead of the endless stream of "Reformed flower power thrash death symphonic badly played metal" nonsense genres with one band each. Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 14:28, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I still expect a reason as to why merge into Symphonic Metal and not Power Metal, when the article being merged repeats power metal and is completely unrelated to Symphonic Metal's article. Leyasu 15:42, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is a derivative of Symphonic Metal, IIRC. Merge WhiteNight T | @ | C 22:53, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Take from the Baroque Metal article:
Power metal totally differs from 1970s metal styles, since it adds important elements of depth, classical arrangements, complex scores and intrincated melodies. Whereas most genres of metal focus largely on personal experience, historical incidents, social commentary, or other aspects of "real life", baroque metal always treats fantasy, aristocratic, castles, battles and kings themes.
It actually calls itself Power Metal, which shows it is not a form of Symphonic Metal, it is a repeat of the Power Metal article. At best, part of it could be conisdered to reference Symphonic Power Metal. Leyasu 23:13, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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The result of the debate was Delete. enochlau (talk) 00:36, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wolf Ellis: Founder of the VS

Seems like unverifiable nonsense..and Google agrees, apparently.SoothingR 00:51, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete. enochlau (talk) 00:37, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Darnell - Male Gigolo Extraordinaire

Hoax. Google gets 139 hits, none about this supposed person. Contributor's only other article has an AfD pending for the same reasons. VegaDark 01:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. — JIP | Talk 21:32, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interwise

Was tagged for speedy as "non-notable company" (and actually deleted, then listed at WP:DRV), but it's not a candidate. No opinion from me. —Cryptic (talk) 01:18, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete. enochlau (talk) 00:38, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Magicomm

Non-notable business vanity. -- Longhair 01:35, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chaps -- Can I help with this? -- I am the author of this entry and it my first foray into wikipedia. I used this company (I am an employee) to illustrate an example anoto service provider should anyone need to go any further. I was struggling for information after this article was flagged as needing more content??!!?? so I copied some of our sales blurb. I would welcome some guidance. Thanks

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