Talk:Cavalier King Charles Spaniel

Someone just added a famous CKCS as "pet of Ocean Park", which leads to a dab page with 2 locations, not people. Can anyone clarify who "Ocean Park" is or is supposed to be? Elf | Talk 17:50, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I think this is just vandalism or vanity, someone with this same IP also put in "Bert" as a pet of Maris Demosthenes, then reverted and added bert as a pet of "Ocean Park". Trysha 22:48, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Recent reversion

Regarding the just-removed text--a quick search on the web reveals a lot of info very similar to the material just removed (although better written), such as this:

Toy spaniels were well established at various courts in Europe as sporting dogs and pets before being brought to England in the sixteenth century. Although they reached the height of their popularity in the reign of Charles II, they were however great favourites at the courts of both Elizabeth I and Mary Queen of Scots, where they were used mostly as comforters. When Mary Queen of Scots returned to Scotland from France in 1561, she brought with her a number of sporting dogs. Shortly before her execution in the Great Hall at Fotheringay in 1587, one little dog, probably a favourite, slipped under Mary's skirts and was not discovered by the executioner until after her death. Charles I, who was rarely seen without his toy spaniels, shared his great love for the breed with his children, Charles II, Henrietta of Orleans and James II. It was Charles II who gave his name to the dogs (Cavaliers). [1]

So this info probably could be incorporated into this page. Elf | Talk 01:13, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Least wolf-like?

Just removed this: "The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel is the most demesticated breed of dog in the world, meaning it is the least wolf-like." added by anon User:144.134.163.151. I have no idea what this means (in what way more unwolflike than other breeds?) and no references cited. Elf | Talk 20:23, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A googled about and managed to pull up this study, which seems to be where the anon is drawing the conclusion. Interesting stuff, actually, and worth re-including in a revised form—it seems that the Cavalier was only the least wolflike of the ten breeds selected for the study. The Tom 21:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, seems that this info would be more suitable for an article like selective breeding or neotony or some such--I might (might) poke around at some point (when? --) and see what looks appropriate. Or I might not... Thanks for finding this, though; it *is* interesting, although it follows on the fox-breeding program from some time back that showed that breeding for people-friendliness aka puppy-like behavior also inadvertently bred for puppy-like anatomical features. Elf | Talk 21:40, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article linked to by The Tom seems to be complete crap. This article is solid science, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?list_uids=15155949&db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Abstract

and Cavaliers are included in the study. There are other breeds that seem to be genetically more distant from the wolf. Lord Kelvin 02:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]