MediaWiki talk:Newpageletter
Change to Recent Changes (N to !)
I have to say, I am not at all a fan of the "!" replacing "N" to designate new pages. I can't think of what page to complain on, though -- can anyone tell me? The "!" renders very badly for me (Mozilla 1.4.1) and "N" is far more descriptive anyway. Not all new pages are "!" worthy for me, but they are all "N"ew. Perhaps the person who made this change will see my comment and change back? I'd be very surprised if this was community consensus. Thanks, Jwrosenzweig 15:32, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- That is exactly what I've come here to complain about. At first I thought that ! meant "important" but now I see that it actually means "new". N is far better for that. Please change it back. -- Derek Ross 15:43, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I second the above request: N renders better. Anárion 15:47, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Whenever you see a change on the interface, hop over to Wikipedia:MediaWiki namespace and click the appropriate Changes link to find out what changed. Dori | Talk 15:50, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC)
- That won't do you much good since the page will almost certainly be protected (as it was in this case) and thus not subject to the normal Wikipedia peer review and correction process. -- Derek Ross 16:02, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- You have it wrong. Just because only admins can edit them, doesn't give the admins the only editorial power. THe reason they're protected is cause vandals could wreck havoc, but assuming it is a legitimate edit, you could just ask an admin to do it on your behalf. Obviously, if the change is major, admins may refuse to do it without first having a discussion, and a community approval, or the interface would be constantly changing, and that's not good. Dori | Talk 20:01, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC)
- No. I have it right. I have been editing the wikipedia for longer than 90% of the admins and have more useful edits than most of them so I am quite clear on how this works. The point here is that a user with admin rights did this without first having a discussion and community approval as if it was an ordinary unprotected page. I would have no objection if this was something that could easily be undone by anyone but it wasn't. Admins had the only editorial power because only an admin could edit this. That is why I brought it to the Village Pump, in the hope that a user with admin rights would agree with me. Luckily one did. I say "luckily" because I have no editorial power over protected pages, only the power to suggest changes to them. -- Derek Ross 20:33, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I don't like this either. It is less clear. Please count this message as a vote against if a poll is conducted. Mr. Jones 16:58, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Luckily Maximus Rex has changed it back. The exclamation mark made no sense. Angela. 17:55, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC)