Talk:Kurdistan Workers' Party

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PKK and Social Ecology/Bookchinism

according to John Zerzan, http://greenanarchy.org/index.php?action=radio , the PKK has recently adopted social-ecologist politics. does anyone know anything about this?

That is right. Öcalan has called himself "a pupil of Murray Bookchin" and recommended Bookchin's books to everybody. His own last book draws heavily from Bookchin's social ecology. --Erdal Ronahi 20:45, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Even if we knew,what is it worth?They are a terrorist organization,now their leader Abdullah Öcalan is caught,they are an irregular horde of misbegotten armed men.DO YOU negotiate with terrorists?--Turkish Legacy 11:34, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

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• Its actions have mainly taken place in Turkey and against Turkish targets in other countries, although it has on occasions co-operated with other Kurdish nationalist paramilitary groups in neighbouring states, such as Iraq and Iran.
• In the late 1990s, the Turkish army began to gain the upper hand in the ground war with the PKK and post-Cold War changes in international politics resulted in the group losing much of its support from other states. In addition, the Turkish state began a slow process of dismantling the legal repression of Kurdish culture within Turkey. The ban on Kurdish language (1983) was dropped in 1991, with more thoroughgoing reforms adopted in the 2000s.
• As of 2005, the PKK's return to violence has been with much less ferocity than its pre-1999 campaign, and the Turkish military, in contrast to the aggressive tactics of the 1980s and 1990s, have largely pursued a policy of maintaining normality in southeastern Turkey. The movement seems to have lost considerable support among Kurds, with a significant number of Democratic People's Party politicians and prominent formerly pro-PKK personalities denouncing the return to violence.
• Currently fighting with PKK on the Iranian mountains. The former government of Iraq supported PKK. After the second gulf war, the current government of Iraq and USA acknowledges the PKK as a terrorist group, however they are doing very little about the PKK's Northern Iraqi bases.
• The PKK has also strong ties with influential persons around the world. Danielle Mitterand, the wife of the former President of France has active connections with elements of the PKK's leadership.
• More recently, however, countries which formerly did little to curb the presence of the PKK in their territory and sometimes even supported the organization, have changed their policies.
• The PKK have participated in a variety of activities recognized as illegal; they've also borrowed some tactics used by terrorist or guerrilla organizations. Generally PKK was very eclectic. PKK used everything in its disposal. However, there are patterns in PKK activities.
• With the change of world conjecture and security systems increase control of the boarders ended with the failure to moving into third phase. This is rectified by moving into intifada structure. Through intifada PKK aims to became legalized and gain legal protection from its past activities.
• PKK have also been accused of violent attacks on individual civilians or residential areas (Kurds and non-Kurds alike), who refused to cooperate with the PKK or were suspected of collaborating with the Turkish authorities. During these years PKK fought a gang fight against other dominantly Kurdish organizations in Turkey. PKK effectively used the prison force to gain appeal among the population.
• The PKK owes its continued existence to its ability to sustain itself while in hiding. They also conduct material raids on villages and small towns. It is also involved with drug and human trafficking.
• PKK within its life time has been a tool or source of many international conflicts.
• By defining the problem in terms of Turkey's handling of the PKK, the EU's lack of support for alternative solutions to the Kurdish problem creates the perception of a clash of civilizations between the EU and Turkey and it also demonstrates a profound lack of understanding for the cultural problems that are involved in the Kurdish situation.
• As a multicultural country with more than 30 ethnic groups all (except some of the Kurds) peacefully coexisting and working together in spite of discomfiture with the Turkey's stance on political and cultural matters, EU's inability to support more pluralistic views is perceived by many of the citizens of Turkey as pushing the tired argument of cultural incompatibility -- a clash of cultures.
• The EU's lack of contact with groups promoting "diversity in unity" in Turkey is not explainable.
• Also the facts regarding the EU visits covering only southeast provinces, or claims of Human Rights Court regarding Öcalan's trail, or member states unwillingness to take a pose against the PKK have been used as defending arguments of this incompatibility.
• The Turkish political terminology "unrealistic expectations", is becoming commonly used for EU's demands originating European political dysfunction on inability to separate between "Human Rights" and political and cultural arguments of violence, ^section:stance against terrorism.
• This dysfunction creates grounds for PKK activity, which the consequences are reflected as increase political violence.
• Political killings of the Kurds that have different voices are attributed to the PKK's grasp on political processes to keep it under its own control, when there is a push on more representational politics from southeast after post-Öcalan area.

You have removed over god knows how many bytes of data. Large scale removals are bad and inflames/angers/annoys others in this case me, so please dont. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 02:57, 7 January 2006 (UTC)