User talk:Angela/Archive2
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Anything you write here may be archived (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10), summarised, moved or deleted.
The full stop after my name in my signature is a secret link to this page. The page history for this page pre-2004 has been moved.
Mumbai Suburbs
Hello! Many of us have been doing a good job, adding a lot to Mumbai suburbs (like Bandra, Santacruz, Andheri, Mulund etal.). It's high time we have a standard template for this purpose.
I suggest - A brief intro, Geography(PIN Code, Neighbouring/Nearest Railway Stations, Neighbouring Suburbs, Main Roads), History, Educational Institutions, Places to Visit.
Please tell your views about this. User:Utcursch, May 05, 2004
Request for admin help
Angela,
I tried to move List of billionaires to List of US-dollar billionaires (after suggesting it on talk and nobody replying in over a week), but made a mistake and moved the talk page instead. Moved it back again, and tried moving the article (with talk page) but I can't because of the redirect. Got a message saying to ask an admin -- please could you help?
Many thanks. --Trainspotter 14:17, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
- Angela: You were off-line so I deleted the redirect page. Cecropia 14:41, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
Tidy up
Angela, the welcome from you is the only trace I can find of a user called Kindling. Don't have a clue how to delete it. Thanks --BozMo 14:48, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
My mistake. There was nothing on his user page or talk page and he didn't seem to have been there or signed anything. I didn't (think of) checking edits. Just obsessively tidy I guess. --BozMo 18:49, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
- There are probably hundreds of users who receive a welcome message and then never come back. I don't think it's anything to worry about until we run out of space. :) Angela. 22:36, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
By the way, anything being done about the system being so terribly slow? --BozMo 18:52, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
Also by the way since I think you did the disclaimer I think WikiPedia not giving any form of financial advice is also a good idea--BozMo 10:58, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
- I've copied this suggestion to Wikipedia talk:General disclaimer. Angela. 11:13, May 7, 2004 (UTC)
Mark
Thank you! Mark Richards 23:56, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
..and from me too. Thanks! rbrwrˆ 16:35, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
TDC
Hi there, I had the impression that you are here quite often and you are an admin, so maybe you have an idea about how to deal with this. TDC tries to personally insult me on his userpage by creating a "crybaby of the year award". he already got banned once for telling someone to "suck his own dick". I also asked mediators Bcorr, sannse, and TUF-KAT about it. Get-back-world-respect 17:15, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks, I tried and asked him about it. However, Wikipedia:dispute resolution clearly says Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Over there it says Many Wikipedians remove personal attacks on sight. In extreme cases, users have been banned for repeatedly engaging in personal attacks. TDC already got banned once, was listed as a vandal, and someone created a page Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/TDC. I listed his crybaby image for speedy deletion. Get-back-world-respect 23:05, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Birmingham
Moved from User talk:Angela/Questions
Not sure i am on the right page or asking the right person but i am getting really annoyed with someone that keeps removing 'Nick Mason'from the Birmingham, England Musician area, i am not registered with wikipedia but i have contributed a massive amount of information since i stumbled across the page from culture to economy and famous residents, whats to stop someone from cpletely ruined all my hard work, i understand that some of my work has not been 100% factually correct and thats fine, but Nick Mason was born in Birmingham, hence, he's from Birmingham but someone doesn't like it? and i don't like it that they are removing his name all the time.
Please help. Ive even tied discussing it on the Birmingham page but no one answers. Nick
- I think Nick is referring to this -- Tim Starling 01:24, May 10, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks?
I looked on the ip address of the person that keeps deleting Nick Mason and he has vandalised before, he has contributed to topics like 'penis' and 'micro penis' as well which speaks for itself really, i am fairly new to Wikipedia and i am learing the rules which i will definatley abide by because i think this site is fantastic, but what can i do to stop this person vandalising my work?
Cheers Guys!
- Hi, if it happens again, you can try reporting it to Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress. Have you thought about logging in so you have a user name? I'll keep an eye on the page. If it continues, the user can be blocked, but it seems he is on a dynamic IP, so is likely to come back despite a block. Angela. 17:46, May 10, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks Agela,
this place is like a warren to me, i have only just seen your reply by chance because i wanted to see my ip address and what it held, now i have i am confused, obviously i can see my edits to the Birmingham page etc, but why is there stuff relating to other crap which i havent even looked at that is really dodgy (to my mind anyway) and so on? This place is starting to really confuse me, i would really apreciate a reply here so i will check back later.
Thanks again Nick.
- Hi Nick. I also put a copy of the reply at User talk:195.92.67.71, but users who are not logged in don't always see the notification that they have a message. This is a reason it would be better if you logged in, so you have a permanent talk page that I could reply to you on. If you're finding the place a bit confusing, the Wikipedia:tutorial might help you. I'm not sure what "other crap" you are talking about. Do you mean other edits by your IP? This is because you have a dynamic IP, so other users will have had that IP in the past. Angela. 18:07, May 10, 2004 (UTC)
Doh! i just wrote a reply and i accidently deleted it, anyway... Thanks, i totally understand now, i have edited everything relating to Bham but the other dodgy stuff was about 'self confessed peadophiles' and 'abortion stuff' which i can thankfully say i have no interest in! I am a musician and i find it v. addictive adding my (until now) useless information on Bham culture, economy etc. I may well just join as i it seems it may be worth it.
Thanks again. Nick
- Thanks for all your work on the Birmingham article. If you choose to log in, you can reassign those edits to your new user name if you want to. The Wikipedia:Why create an account? has some more information on logging in. Angela. 19:32, May 10, 2004 (UTC)
Mumbai (Images)
First, allow me to thank you for your willingness to stand as a Volunteer User Representative. There are many fine admins in Wiki, but I feel a special allegiance to you because you welcomed me here lo those many months ago. You will most certainly have my vote.
However, that is not what brought me here. Images of Mumbai is a page which was on VfD not long ago. It squeaked by, but the concerns raised generally had to do with the quality of the images and the fact that many had no particular focus. I selected about two thirds of them, edited them boldly in Photoshop, and created a new page, Mumbai (Images). I don't know how to redirect pages (still a newbie when it comes to some of the more esoteric stuff), and am not sure, as a regular user, I'm allowed to anyway, so I'm asking (a) if you could do it for me, and (b) if it is an operation I'm allowed to perform, the location of the page describing the procedure. Denni 22:57, 2004 May 10 (UTC)
artificial consciousness
Angela, many thanks for your offer to mediate the artificial consciousness article. I find the mediation necessary, because the things there are indeed out of hand. But what worries me is that mediation is about the article, but there the problem is the additude of two users who now already several months used personal attacks against other user (me). But you see yourself, if you read the talk page. And the big problem is that almost nobody ever reminded them that this is not a right behaviour, while I was admonished twice by sysops (for reverting more than three times). I understand that nobody dares to remind them, being afraid to become a subject of personal attacks as I am, but this gives them an impression that their behaviour is silently approved by others. Maybe the best idea I got of the reasons of ridiculing me was when Paul Beardsell wrote me (in the Archive 8 of the talk page) "I want to use the term artificial consciousness in the same way I might one day have to use natural consciousness to distinguish it from the artificial variety and as a separate subset of consciousness. You must not be allowed to impose some other meaning on the term than what it literally does now mean." Then somene in the Village Pump said to me that what he wanted to say was "I don't want you to". I started to think that maybe they indeed just act like a child, who feels hurt when something is not as it likes, and then starts to attack others as a protest. But if this indeed is true, then it's almost impossible to discuss complicated issues with them. And I don't know how to solve this problem. I may relent and fulfil their wishes, what I often did, but this doesn't seem to solve anything, it did not result in any agreement or ending the nonsense personal attacks. The questionable parts of the article should be discussed, but discussion ends in new personal attacks. So nothing can be seriously discussed, and other users don't dare to come to such place to solve the problems by discussion or by voting. They say that article is not NPOV, but all views proposed by anybody, for or against, are included, sometimes said if demanded that some particular view is a minority view, and there are no objections by anybody else to the parts of the text that they say are POV, one of them (attentiveness) was written by Matthew Stannard. Though sometimes maybe their aim is to add questionnable text to the article, for it then to be rejected. I'm thankful though for the contributions they made to the article, it's important to include all views there are, and most of their amendments were constructive. I tried not to reply to offenses, but this also did not cause them to change their behaviour. In other cases I replied to offenses as politely as I could. I am in terrible situation, whatever would change it, should be done. Maybe deleting the article would be a solution, but it's questionnable that deleting the article because of the behaviour of two people would be supported. I don't like to be discredited like that because of writing an article in Wikipedia, I'm not a professor in the University, but I'm still an Automatic Control engineer by education, I'm a completely identifiable person, not just a nickname, and these attacks discredit me far below the pride of ordinary person. Thank you again for wanting to solve the problem, even by that offer alone you helped me a lot. Tkorrovi 14:18, 11 May 2004 (UTC)