User talk:Donald Albury/Archive 2

Against voluntary dual-licensing
I am against voluntary dual-licensing of Wikipedia contributions.

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User talk:Dalbury/Archive1

Trying to keep up with the Joneses

I created a Jones College disambiguation page and moved Jones College to Jones College (Rice University) (after a foolish move to Jones College (Houston)), as other of Rice University colleges are done the same way. I've changed all links to the Florida college to Jones College (Jacksonville), which I'm sure that Dalbury will soon make into an article.

Love ya. ℬastique▼^parℓer♥^voir♑ 04:17, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

SR 908/"Redland" vs. "Redlands"

I've found some conflicting information that I didn't want to put on the SR 908 talk page until I can (somehow) find a way of resolving the discrepancy. First, as stated on the talk page, it is likely that the anon's account is an accurate one, for Newton Rd. (SW 157 Ave) was built by C. M. Newton (I think I have the initials right - I forgot to write them down in my brief time in the MDC-NC library today) about 1910 so that his children would have access to the Silver Palm School, and in the first half of the 20th Century, schools were usually named for the community they served. But I still haven't found documentation that clinches the settlement of Silver Palm at Silver Palm and Newton Road, but I'll keep looking, job permitting. When/if that happens, I may need assistance for reporting the source here as I'm looking through books that are at least 60 years old (and ISBNs were not added to books on a regular basis until at least the 1960s). But so far, there's no conflict - I haven't found a "smoking gun" here.

On the other hand, I am finding quite a bit of conflicting information on the present name of the region to the north of Homestead, west of Naranja, and south of western Goulds. Sources do agree that the original name was Redland; but the discrepancies occur over the past 30-40 years. The Miami Herald consistently uses "The Redlands" in all articles and sections referring to the region (the committee for Redlands incorporation has "Redlands" in its proposed incorporation papers), but the Community Newspaper serving the area justifies the use of the original name, Redland (this paper has been in publication for less than five years, the Herald 102). So, we have a dispute between papers (none really as far as I'm concerned: I consider the Herald the definitive authority on the matter, and I favor their version as a result. Should they change to "Redland", so shall I).

One last look to quell the curiosity: a visit through the business White Pages in the Miami-Dade County telephone book. By first word... "Redland" 6 entries (including Redland Farms and Redland Supply Inc.), "Redlands" 5 entries (including Redlands Academy and Redlands Food & Fuel), for what they're worth. B.Wind 04:00, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

==Don't even try it==

• Your Washington, D.C. edits fail all possible Wikipedia standards. Stop wasting bandwidth with this "sister city" nonsense. Danny Lilithborne 12:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Dal, perhaps you might consider adding a referenced footnote to the sister cities project with the Washington information - it may be that Danny L is unaware of this practice and how well known it is. Many cities have a sign at the city limits with the information on their sister city - a source with such a sign might help his misconception that this is not geramane to the Washington article. KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:02, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I was just reverting User:Danny Lilithborne's removal of information without an explanation. I do know that sister cities are very common (Delray Beach, where I live, has two). Everything in an article should be sourced, but I don't remove unsourced material without giving a reason in the edit summary, and usually a comment in the talk page. Deletions with no explanation in the edit summary or talk page look like vandalism to me, and I will revert them. -- Dalbury^(Talk) 13:15, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I applaud your consistent use of the talk page to explain the removal of unsourced content when you are doing the removing. I myself often use the edit summary, although I try to be civil and clear when I do so. A source would still be a good idea - I will go look for one. KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:40, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I've put sources on the Washington talk page, as I don't want to get into an edit war with User:Danny Lilithborne. -- Dalbury^(Talk) 13:48, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Quick work, well done. KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

• My explanation was in the hyperlink. Danny Lilithborne 13:32, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Calling unsourced content "nonsense" is unecessary where there is a question of whether the content is nonsense or not. Simply stating you are removing unsourced content, possibly mentioning WP:CITE and/or WP:V makes the reason clear without calling anyone's contribution nonsense, which may be perceived as hostile. You may wish to consider that next time you remove unsourced content from an article. KillerChihuahua^?!? 13:40, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I find your flippancy less than helpful, especially when it looks like an insult. -- Dalbury^(Talk) 13:48, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

btw I moved your comment for KillerChihuahua from her userpage to her talk page, which is what I think you intended --Syrthiss 13:53, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Dalbury/Key West Light

Hello. In regards to placing a stub notice on this article (I assume this one, you didn't say), you made mention of this article being in your user space. This article is in the main encyclopedia namespace, not personal user space. The same article in your user space would be located at User:Dalbury/Key West Light. I can move the article there and delete the draft if you like until you're ready to move it back to the main namespace. Please clarify if my understanding is incorrect. Thanks. -- Longhair 13:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I've since moved this draft article to your personal user space and deleted the article from the encyclopedia namespace. Feel free to add the article again to the main namespace when you feel it is ready for publication. You may find your draft at User:Dalbury/Key West Light. Please note articles in your user space begin with URL prefix of User: -- Longhair 14:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Lights and lighthouses

We may not have a Project Lighthouses but currently you are the closest thing we have to a Project Florida Lighthouse - please send me a list (can be plaintext) via email of how the lights and lighthouses in FL should be named, so I don't make any errors, especially after the Reef Light disagreement. Do it when you can, I'll work through the other states first. Thanks much! KillerChihuahua^?!? 14:25, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Hotel links

Hi. Thanks for quickly clearing up that linkspam issue in Albany, New York. Is that the general practice? Because I've seen hotel web site links in several other cities and I'll be happy to start removing them. Thanks. —Wknight94 (talk) 14:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Florida county images

When I went to write the previous note, I saw the link here to the Florida project which I'd never heard of. I was bored a while back and created some Florida county maps showing where towns are in Pasco County. Would those be suitable for Category:Florida maps or is there a different category in place that would make more sense? (See User:Wknight94#County images for the list. I only did towns near where I currently reside and then got tired of it). Thanks. —Wknight94 (talk) 14:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

To Dalbury

Do you know what does it mean GNU/Linux? GNU/Linux is a nonprofit operation system, so it cannot be a part of any commercial actions. Every GNU/Linux site are nonprofit organization. Okay maybe the link of www.linux.com is a commercial site ;) But if I realized well you haven't any problem with linux.com Why you have a problem with LinuxBazis? http://www.linuxbazis.hu/?nyelv=en is an international NONPROFIT GNU/Linux links collection. It's not my site. It's just my favorite that's all. If you can't understand that, that's your problem, but I'll fight with you in every day, every hours, every minutes, and secconds. LinuxBazis has every right be present on the external links of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Why??? Because the WikipediA is a qualified online LEXICON which is built by the people of the Internet (not only by your registered members). http://www.linuxbazis.hu/?nyelv=en is GNU/Linux knowledge base like the other international GNU/Linux sites (www.linux.com for a sample). LinuxBazis is not my site, and I don't know who are the editors and I don't care, but I wanna see my favorite GNU/Linux search engine on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

I have copied your comment to Talk: Linux, so that the editors who regularly contribute to the Linux article can comment. I was deleting commercial linkspam that you had added to other articles, and I had no reason to believe that what you added to Linux was not linkspam. I also notice that the same link has been removed many times before by other editors as linkspam. There seems to be a consensus of the editors who regularly edit Linux that the linuxbazis link does not belong in the article. -- Dalbury^(Talk) 02:30, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome to the project! And now...

Dal, I'd like to join the project but I have a request first. Since I've started editing I've been working on SPUI's "Florida State Roads" project, which (as I understand) is not an official Wikiproject. Recent events now make it clear that the informal FSR project needs to be made an official one (as at least one regular contributor - guess who - is not "playing nice"). It seems to me that it might be best to incorporate FSR into the Wikiproject: Florida with you (as administrator) overseeing it. It definitely needs an objective, guiding hand as this person would neglect his incomplete stubs on the way to rewriting stand-alone articles by others (and in my view vandalizing with either the removal of references or insisting on the length of each FSR be reported to the nearest five feet). If you agree to this, I'll happily join up (and have at least three others "sign up") and start adding the templates indicating this. If it's separate, I'll first concentrate on FSR and tolerate the boorishness (et al.) until all the red links on the Florida State Roads page are blue and linked to legitimate articles that are not simply exit lists. B.Wind 00:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I must say 'no'. I literally have 100 articles on my todo list, and I am easing up on the amount of time I spend on Wikipedia. I really am not interested in road articles, anyway. Why don't you make state roads one of the tasks in WikiProject Florida? Current tasks on the list include cities, state parks and ports, so state roads would fit in. -- Dalbury^(Talk) 03:00, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

RFC/KM

You commented on Kelly Martin's second RfC. it is up for archival. you may vote at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Kelly_Martin#Archiving_this_RfC. CastAStone|^(talk) 03:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Boca Rotten (affectionately)

I think what happened is that you made your edits about the same time I made mine, and yours overwrote mine. It happens once in a while. ℬastique▼^parℓer♥^voir♑ 14:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Jennifer Arroyo

First of all, I'm going to start off by saying that even after reading the FAQ and how to's on this site, i still don't quite get the format. On the discussion of the Jennifer Arroyo article, you said that you could not find mention of two of the three sites besides her own. You must have just barely glanced at them. On their Purevolume, it says her name as the bassist on the main page, as it does with the myspace over on the side under the "members" catagory. Also, on the Suicide City Official Site, her name is under the bio and there is some information about her there. It is just bad luck that her site is down, but Arroyo's career has taken a large step recently. Since her departure with Kittie and her touring with Suicide City, she must redo her page to accomodate all of the new and to get rid of the old. Ex. new tour pictures, new media section, new overall layout, so on and so forth. i hope this was helpful in convincing you that, in the metal world of women, Jennifer Arroyo is a prominant figure, and one that respects her fans. She actually posted when the Not My Year page was up for deletion. Of course, she had never used Wiki before, so her post wasn't in the best format, but she did try. Tom 23:14, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I did look at all of the sites linked from her page, and if her name appears on all of those pages, I couldn't find it. The point is moot, however, as I did not remove the links from her article, but only the unsourced puffery that had been added to it. -- Dalbury^(Talk) 23:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Minor correction

Just thought you should know that you put the vandalism warning on the user page of 151.198.210.30, rather than the talk page. I didn't want to move someone else's warning, but you might want to shift it over when you get the chance, especially since he'd already vandalized and been warned for hitting that same page earlier today. -Colin Kimbrell 17:57, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll go fix it. Dalbury^(Talk) 18:01, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Theoretical Linguistics Project

• Re: Welcome to the Theoretical Linguistics Project, such as it is. We're trying to get this off the ground. Are there particular topics that you want to work on? I have a Ph.D. in Linguistics from 30 years ago, but have not worked in the field since then, so I'm not up to writing on current theory. -- Dalbury^(Talk) 11:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

• JA: Hi, the project page somehow fell off my watchlist. I took an interest in what they used to call "mathematical linguistics" early on in my undergrad years, sitting in on some grad courses, and hanging out a lot at the then-new "artificial language lab", which was mostly devoted to what later became "augmentative communication", and several of my decade long projects in programming were incited by observations that I first made there. Much later took the standard grad year of "formal languages and automata theory" from a computer science department and did some work on the same from a combinatorics angle as a grad student in math. But also kept up with the natural language and cognitive science literature through the middle 90's or so, as a parallel grad student in psych. Talk to you later. Jon Awbrey 15:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

WP:NOT

You were kind enough to offer your comments on my proposed tweaking of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a dictionary. I've clarified at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a usage guide exactly what I had in mind, and I would appreciate your further thoughts. Thanks. JHCC (talk) 15:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Removing user pages et al.

Thought this was more appropriate on your talk page. Understand that I'm not actually advocating removing user pages, but just trying to bring a different point of view; it's become entrenched in the community that user pages are a place for unrestricted free expression of the editor's personal life, rather than a page about an encyclopedia editor with information relevant to their work on the encyclopedia. I'm just trying to encourage other people to think about what goes on user talk pages by asking what the effect of removing them entirely would be.

I've actually redone my entire user page, as I'd never really thought about this before; I was just emulating most other user pages I've seen. People don't really need to know I'm an anarcho-capitalist in order to judge my contributions to James Joyce's biography.

I certainly don't think that things like edit and page vandalized counts are vanity, as they are the kind of relevant information that tells other Wikipedians about you as an editor, which is important information (especially in the case of a RfA, for instance). - dharmabum (talk) 00:38, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't think we disagree about anything substantive. When I first became active (just four months ago) I looked at other user pages and decided I'd put some userboxes on my page (although I felt a little uneasy about using too many). I did create a few of my own. After a while I moved some of the userboxes to a sub-page, and more recently I decided get rid of most of them (it's obvious I speak English, my ability to program in BASIC, Pascal and plain ole' C doesn't seem relevant to Wikipedia, and I don't need userboxes proclaiming that I delete vanadalism and am a Vietnam War veteran and a veteran of the 1970s anit-war movement). The edit count is vanity. I (or anyone else) can look up my edit count at any time. As for AfD, I thought at first that I wanted to be an admin (I have been a SysOp elsewhere), but I've decided now that there is no hurry. I have enough to keep me busy now without having to commit to more tasks in an attempt to win votes in an RfA. -- Dalbury^(Talk) 00:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC)