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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by BluePlatypus (talk | contribs) at 06:59, 2 March 2006 (→Removed Merkey stuff). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

What is intended to be in this article? Is the LKML sufficiently distinct from other mailing lists to require its own article? Or should it be discussed in a more general article discussing the development of Linux? Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 11:07, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

VfD

Article listed on vfd 14 Apr to 20 Apr 2004, consensus to keep. Discussion:

Do we really need an article on every mailing list in the world? -- Graham  :) | Talk 13:02, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • There are a few mailing lists out there that are notable enough to have articles. LKML is probably one of them. -- Cyrius|&#9998 16:43, Apr 14, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Important list. --AaronSw 17:47, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep - Tεxτurε 17:38, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Noninformative. Delete if not expanded by those who think it is important during the time-out. Mikkalai 02:33, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. BL 08:06, Apr 19, 2004 (UTC)

Controversies material merged

The problem of the skimpy LKML article has been solved, and there are lots of controversies associated with it, so here's a few pages of well researched LKML content that's very entertaining. Waya sahoni 09:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • For those new to this tedious saga, Waya sahoni is attempting to move large sections of the Jeffrey Vernon Merkey article to here in order to save Jeff some embarrassment, against the consensus opinion of pretty much everyone else. Waya is probably a sockpuppet of Jeff Merkey himself, who has been permanently banned for threatening nuisance lawsuits over his page. Apologies in advance for the upcoming train wreck --Aim Here 21:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Investigation and amid false allegations have confirmed I am not a sockpuppet of Jeff Merkey. This user is a known SCOX sockpuppet role account Vandal, and has been repeatedly vandalizing this article and several others. This account User:Aim Here is a role account of SCOX message board users and its used by dozens of people via a proxy. Waya sahoni 03:49, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Investigation into your history is nonconclusive, other than proving that you've been lying about the accounts you're using, and that you have a utah IP address, which is unlikely for an alleged Texan. And all that crap about proxies and role accounts is utterly false. There's only one of me. --Aim Here 08:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not make personal attacks against other users. It violates WP:NPA. Also, please stop page blanking and vandalizing the article. Thanks. Waya sahoni 08:45, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Compromise edits are a good start, however, that content still belongs in this article. Let's see what the RFC concludes (which will mandate this article I believe). Waya sahoni 14:41, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How can it? Both the -pro and -anti positions on the RFC are rants by you. The only choice for everyone who disagrees with you is to abstain. Oh and you're banned. Get off Wikipedia, Jeff. --Aim Here 17:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Merkey stuff

I'm reverting this back to the version before this weird edit-war. Several links were removed for no reason, and I don't see how this Merkey stuff is relevant. Especially considering how half the article space was devoted to him. AFAICT he's not a significant developer or particularily prolific poster on the list. It's non-NPOV by placing undue weight on the contributions (however controversial) of a single poster. By that rationale, the Usenet article would be full of nonsense on every single net-kook out there. --BluePlatypus 09:55, 1 March 2006 (UTC)immediately.[reply]

Well, except that LKML materials and list fails as a primary or secondary source under Wikipedia:Reliable sources, which means content about it in other articles which rely on it fail WP:V and will be deleted or moved to this article. After you receive the content from the other article, you can fight with the other editors over it and work it out with them, since they will be moving over here with it. But it will either get moved or dumped, as it fails Wikiepdia policies and is a dubious source for primary or secondary research. Waya sahoni 06:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LKML posts certainly are primary sources for information on the LKML itself. Other articles are other articles, and there is no reason to bring them into this. Just because something is posted on the LKML doesn't mean is should be in the LKML article. Just because an article cites the NY Times as a source doesn't mean it's relevant to the article on the Times. And the reliability of the LKML as a source has nothing to do with that. Please take this edit war back to the Merkey article (as that's where it seems to have originated, and where the dispute is). --BluePlatypus 06:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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