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Plot

Just some notes I'd like to make...

Fact: Otis is not Spaulding's son. He's not related to the Firefly family genetically. According to the official site, Otis was adopted by the Firefly family. Only Baby is Spaulding's daughter. Tiny and Rufus were Earl (the Professor from the first film)'s children.

Now onto opinions...since 'horribly sadistic' was removed, would someone kindly tell me how Wydell's actions WEREN'T horribly sadistic?

But I have changed "save the day" to "save the Firefly family" which I think is fair.

And Charlie's redemption/damnation: In the context of the film, what he did was redemption. He betrayed his family and later tried to save his niece from a horrible death. Its been referred to in a couple of interviews as redemption. In no way was Rob Zombie implying that Charlie was damning himself by trying to save his family. Case closed. CyberGhostface 20:28, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to note, as well, that (at least in the version i saw) Otis and Baby didn't rape the two couples in the motel room. Tortured, yes; abused, yes. Or maybe it was just supposed to be assumed.--Genesis 12:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that the scene where Otis forces Gloria to strip and then abuses her was implied to be a rape. Although not explicitly shown, it seemed clear that he was forcing her to perform oral sex on him.-- [[User:CyberGhostface|CyberGhostface]

Article

Why does this article even exist?

Because it's a movie directed by a notable person, starring notable people, that is being widely released. --Myles Long 21:14, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Why shouldn't it exist? Is there anything that makes it not deserving of a wiki entry? CyberGhostface 20:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I know this page isn't meant for movie reviews, but this movie was absolutely horrible. The plot, the acting, the senseless and stupidly portrayed violence. I expected better from Rob Zombie

If you're going to make posts at create a username for yourself or add a signature. But just because you don't like the movie doesn't mean there shouldn't be a Wikipedia article. Others happened to like the movie, and Roger Ebert gave it two thumbs up. --CyberGhostface 17:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
If we all based our film-going lives around Roger Ebert's opinion, we'd be missing out on some stellar films. The bottom line you should be stressing here to these individuals is that this is an online encyclopedia, not a movie review forum or website. It's fine for them to have opinions, but opinions aren't facts and facts are the only things that belong in any article on Wikipedia. 63.233.114.46 07:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I am perfectly aware of that, which is why I said just because you don't like the movie doesn't mean there shouldn't be a Wikipedia article. But he expressed his opinion and I expressed mine.

Yea, the movie sucks ass (I walked out of it), but that's no reason to deny it an article. I expected better from Rob Zombie as well, and believe this diminished him some. --DanielCD 16:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to delete this section twice in vain because its pointless. So I'll just say this to everyone...No one gives a flying fuck whether or not you don't like the film. Thats not going to stop those who liked the film from contributing to the article. Daniel, this argument was already resolved so it was pointless you to chip in and say how it 'sucks ass'.--CyberGhostface 22:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that edifying comment. I'm sure it will serve us well. --DanielCD 22:51, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths

The list does not mention the death of the cleaning lady of the motel the family band is held at. While not directly killed by the Fireflys, she is driven insane and hit by a truck. If I remembered more details, I'd add it myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.164.231.195 (talkcontribs)

Wendy Banjo is run over the truck, and she is mentioned in the 'Deaths' section. The maid was not killed; she is later seen talking with Wydell.--CyberGhostface 16:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]