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Add links to stupid, incorrect, or otherwise unwanted page titles to the list below so an admin can find them, check to see that they are indeed not legitimate pages. If the page should be deleted, an admin will, and the link removed from this page (it will show up on the Wikipedia:Deletion log). If the page should not be deleted, an admin will remove the link from this page. Page titles should stay listed for a minimum of a week before a decision is made.

If the content of a page-to-be-deleted exists on some different page, please indicate that, somehow, on the page-to-be-deleted (either by redirecting it to the correctly titled page, or, better for our purposes, putting in a link to it). To facilitate checking that a "page title to be deleted" really ought to be deleted, please don't redirect such pages to page titles to be deleted.

As a general rule, don't delete pages you nominate for deletion. Let someone else do it.

Please review Wikipedia policy on permanent deletion of pages before adding to this page. In the past, about half of the titles added to this page were not deleted. In particular, do not add page titles of stubs that at least have a decent definition and might in the future become articles. There's no reason to delete those (see Wikipedia:Find or fix a stub). Also, please don't list pages on this page that can easily and sensibly be redirected to another page. E.g., a page called Hume can be easily and sensibly redirected to David Hume; presidant (a misspelling) can be redirected to president; etc. (Even misspellings can be caught by search engines and provide Wikipedia perfectly relevant traffic!) Similarly, pages in the wrong namespace (for example, user pages in the main namespace), can be redirected and should not be deleted if there are still old links to them.

Discussion about the merits of deleting a page listed here should take place on wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion.

NOTE to Wiki Administrators: Simply deleting a page does not automatically delete its talk page or any subpages. Please delete these pages first, and then the main page. Also, if you delete a page, remove if from this list as well.

If another solution has been found for some of these pages than deletion, leave them listed for a short while, so the original poster can see why it wasn't deleted, and what did happen to it. This will prevent reposting of the same item.

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See also : Wikipedia:Deletion log
See also : Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense
See also : Wikipedia:Find or fix a stub

  • United States of America/OldPage
    • Jeronimo 00:26 Aug 27, 2002 (PDT)
      • Before it is deleted some version control needs to take place -- that page and the various CIA pages were being edited at the same time by different people. In some places the "old" page is more currently edited and in others the former CIA subpages are. --mav
  • History of Cologne
    • possible copyright violation (see Cologne/Talk). Nov 3, 2002.
  • Image:Kon s.jpg xor Image:White horse thumbnail.jpg
    • They are identical. Kon s is used in the Polish article about kon; White horse thumbnail is used here in horse. -phma 2002-10-05
  • Image:Enigma.png - This appears to be taken from www.gcsb.govt.nz/infhist.htm - according to their copyright disclaimer, the image can be used but the source and copyright status must be acknowledged.
  • Image:Filmmove.gif
    • An orphan animated gif. -- Zoe 23:40 Nov 13, 2002 (UTC)
    • It's not actually an orphan (Orson Welles, Robin Hood and Lord Peter Wimsey all use it), but it should be. In a similar vein, there is Image:Bookturn.gif, which I think should also go. --Camembert 00:30 Nov 14, 2002 (UTC)
      • Huh. When I clicked on "What links here" nothing showed up. -- Zoe 00:36 Nov 14, 2002 (UTC)
        • "What links here" gives you the page that link to the image description page. To see the links to the image itself, look at 'Image links' on the image description page itself. Andre Engels 15:11 Nov 14, 2002 (UTC)
  • List of ethnic groups
    • I doubt this article will ever be useful due to the lack of any acceptable definition of what counts as an ethnic group. (i.e. my grandmother will punch anyone that calls her Italian, but few people actually recognize Sicilian as a distinct ethnic group and language.) The only direct link is ethnic group (a redirect) which should be an actual article IMHO. Tokerboy 04:29 Nov 15, 2002 (UTC)
      • A link of perceived (if you will) ethnic groups is quite useful. When I read, Sicilian I want to be able to look it up on the list and see what it is referring too. Lir 05:14 Nov 15, 2002 (UTC)
      • According to the Ethnologue, there are 6,800 main languages--virtually all of them (except sign languages, Esperanto, etc) are probably a distinct ethnic group. There are also 41,000 dialects, according to Ethnologue. If even 1/10 of them are also ethnic groups, we're talking about a list 10,000 long. It would be nice, but not feasible. Tokerboy 09:47 Nov 15, 2002 (UTC)
      • That sounds like an argument against wikipedia altogether. Yet we already have 90,000+ articles... Lir 01:55 Nov 16, 2002 (UTC)
      • Why couldn't we try to work together on a fair, consensual, acceptable definition of "ethnic group"? I believe it will be perhaps hard, but not impossible. --G
        • I tried to start, please follow :-)
  • Negligent damage to Chysauster Ancient Village: Discussion moved to Talk:Negligent damage to Chysauster Ancient Village user:sjc
  • George Francis Cruickshank: probably merits deletion. The fact that someone has a web-site should not in itself merit a Wikipedia article, and the fact that he calls his website a "global non-territorial microstate" doesn't alter that fact. -- Someone else 23:09 Nov 24, 2002 (UTC)
    • There's a claim on the Atlantium page that the chap's "empire" has around a thousand "citizens". I have no idea if he really does have this many followers, and I have no idea how many followers someone needs to be considered significant, so I'm not really arguing either way here. I just thought I'd raise the point, though. -- Oliver Pereira 00:12 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)
    • I suggest you read the website prior to suggesting deletion. It contains a significant volume of photographic and international media documentation supporting the author's claims. It is also fairly clear that this group consists of real people with a real world agenda. For example they have a complete list of biographies, plus telephone and postal contact details of their representatives. I'm sure all this can be verified. Seems to me they have just as much right to be listed as Sealand, Hutt River Province and other micronations and/or unususal political organizations.
    • Looking further it also seems that their decimal calendar proposal has gained some sort of acceptance via inclusion into a third-party commercial date-conversion software application.
    • Atlantium is a micronation. Several such entities have their page in the 'pedia. Atlantium probably deserves its own page. Whether its "emperor" does is definitely more debatable. olivier 14:44 Nov 26, 2002 (UTC)
  • Bad Thing
    • Probably all the linked "articles" as well. I don't think this is an article at all. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Jeronimo
  • Pescennius_Niger
    • because the page was created by a vandalist and filled only with dirt.
    • It has been fixed. Please do not delete it now. --Ed Poor
  • Battle of Manzikert
    • Possible copyright violation. --mav 22:14 Nov 18, 2002 (UTC)
  • Mayor of the Palace
    • Call for an article -- JeLuF
    • I added some information from the Austrasia article. Still a stub. olivier 14:33 Nov 26, 2002 (UTC)
  • Python vs Java typing example (redirect page)
  • Python and Java typeheckexample (redirect page)
  • Python-Java/Typeheckexample (redirect page)

JeLuF

  • Queer theory
    • Possible copyright infringement -- JeLuF 21:38 Nov 19, 2002 (UTC)
    • OK, I reworded the text, sorry for the C.I., it won't happen again.
  • UFO (band)
    • Text does not cover subject. -- JeLuF 22:23 Nov 20, 2002 (UTC)
  • Pornographic film
    • It's empty except for headings. -- Zoe 03:08 Nov 21, 2002 (UTC)
  • David Ho
    • contains just nonsense -- Kpjas Nov 22 20:34:35 CET 2002
    • the "nonsense" is actual facts. Obviously this is a stub, and it should be expanded. olivier 10:26 Nov 27, 2002 (UTC)
  • Maitre de conferences
    • My own concoction; more suitable to French Wikipedia than this one; dictionary-like; links to nothing.—Hephaestos 05:33 Nov 22, 2002 (UTC)
    • There are now 2 articles linking to this one. It would probably be suitable, with more information added to it, in a set of articles describing the various educational systems around the world, or at least the French one. olivier 16:09 Nov 24, 2002 (UTC)
  • Corporation of London
  • Tomoya Kawakita
    • Possible copyright violation. --mav 07:07 Nov 23, 2002 (UTC)
  • PolanD
    • Useless redirect to Poland
      • This is an old CamelCase implementation of a Wikipedia namespace from the days of yore. I think this is a policy issue about whether we delete some, all or none of these, I'm just not sure what the present state of the policy is... user:sjc
        • They should be kept. There might be links in the Internet pointing to those articles. And we wouldn't like to break these links. -- JeLuF
      • Yes they should be kept by all means. There are several people who contributed their work to the article before it was moved. The only record of their contributions are in that article's history. Deleting the article would be a serious violation of the GNU FDL. Could we please stop listing redirects here? --mav
  • Mercury-in-glass thermometer
    • In Dutch, by IP address, and doesn't mention mercury. -phma 2002-11-23
    • They say they're working on an English version: we'll give it a week or so then zap it if they haven't fixed it preliminarily by then. user:sjc
  • W. Wallace Smith Israel A.Smith?s Joseph Smith III
    • Possible copyright violations. --mav 07:44 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)
  • Intuitive understanding
    • A redirect to Grok. Groking and intuitive understanding are not the same. This should be deleted until someone wants to put some useful content under "intuitive understanding". The few pages that would be affected lie under User:Stevertigo. --Ryguasu 08:05 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)
    • I added some content. See also Talk:Intuitive understanding. -- Merphant 12:01 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)
  • Basic process - idiosyncratic project, giving rise to (all?) the pages Ryguasu is noticing above. Nov 25, 2002
    • Most of my suggestions today are indeed from Fred Bauder's interesting but distinctly non-encyclopedic basic process project. Note, however, that not all the entries linked off basic process need to be deleted. I'm working through them slowly, and putting them on this list only once I decide there really is no hope for them. --Ryguasu 12:33 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)
    • Calling pages "dictionary entry" is not sufficient cause for deletion. These are stubs, all of which could have reasonable entries. If you believe that they should redirect elsewhere, then do so, instead of nominating them for deletion. --The Cunctator
    • Or, engage the author in discussion on the appropriate talk pages. People don't put in "dictionary entries" to defy the policy that "Wikipedia is not a dictionary". They are trying to add information and starting with a definition of what they are talking about. Sometimes this is not a good idea, but often these articles can grow. Oh, yeah, and the argument that "Votes for deletion is not a talk page" doesn't knock me out either. Where else are we supposed to raise these issues? Ortolan88
    • Good points. The dictionary thing is actually not my only objection to these pages, and I do think the ones I listed can never become reasonable encyclopedia articles. Nonetheless, I should present concrete arguments for this, and do so on the talk pages before ultimately brining them here. --Ryguasu
  • History of the People's Republic of China Talk -- Not a talk page but an article from which the talk page was moved. Moved content back to Talk:History of the People's Republic of China. User:Olivier moved it originally but no explanation why. --Nate 23:36 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)
  • Portland Surrealist Group
    • Copyright violation. -phma 2002-11-26
  • Hong Kong/Temp: empty, no link after I moved the content to Hong Kong. olivier 13:45 Nov 26, 2002 (UTC)
  • Continuum computer game
    • Not even a stub. --Nate 01:06 Nov 27, 2002 (UTC)
  • Inductive argument
    • Stupid prank. Not even title is needed because we have Inductive reasoning
    • Instead of putting the page here, you could have just redirected it, as I have done. --The Cunctator
  • Exodus 22:18: Contains a single Bible verse in different translations. Wikipedia is not a collection of un-editable source material; I fail to see how this can become a legitimate article.
    • This article is not in it's finished form, I just put it up yesterday. It's about to become a real article. And, please, sign your work ... I'd rather talk to a name than a number. --Dante Alighieri
    • The article can stay. Particularly relevant Bible verses are perfectly suitable for discussion in articles. --Eloquence 23:32 Nov 27, 2002 (UTC)
  • Four great ancient capitals of China: Content has been moved to Capital of China. "Four great ancient capitals of China" is only a phrase in Chinese. --voidvector
  • Formal specification
    • Not an article. A snippet of code in some programming language. -phma 2002-11-28
  • Macintosh XL
    • Possible copyright violation. --mav
  • A page that will never be written unless some jerk writes it
    • Essay that was moved to meta. Don't forget to also nuke the talk page. --mav
  • Guinea-fowl
    • Possible copyright violation. --mav 09:07 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)
  • Birdwatchers' Field Club of Bangalore
    • No encyclopedic content; promotion of a club
  • Vierge
    • Page accidentally put here that should have gone in the fr:Wiki. Mea culpa. - Montréalais
  • Espedair Street
    • Just contains some non-NPOV content. -- Ram-Man
  • Stray
    • I think this word has been made up by a mischevious 217.35.28.21 who has already been guilty of some other vandalism
    • I agree. I'm gay and I've never heard of this term. Montréalais says he has never heard of it either and some Googling can't find a reference for the use of this term (It originally stated that the term is "frequently used among the gay community"). The text should be moved to bad jokes and other deleted nonsense and the page title deleted and orphaned. -- mav 21:25 Nov 29, 2002 (UTC)
  • Secret decoder ring
  • Harry_Worth, Joyce Grenfell
    • Sub-stub quality -- JeLuF 00:54 Nov 30, 2002 (UTC)
  • Delta Kappa Epsilon
    • possible copyright violation -- JeLuF 01:04 Nov 30, 2002 (UTC)