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I'm seeking some information that readers of this page might know. I am looking for information of Prince Joachim Von Hohenzollern, son of Kaiser Wilhelm II. Joachim was discussed as a possible 'king of Ireland' by Padraig Pearse and the leaders of Ireland's Easter Rising in 1916. Am I correct is thinking that Prince Joachim was married in 1916 and died in 1920? All info greatly received. JTD

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"Frederick Wilhelm Viktor Albert of Hohenzollern" seems to be a strange mixture of English and German:
"Frederick William Victor Albert of Hohenzollern" (English);
"Friedrich Wilhelm Viktor Albert von Hohenzollern" (German).
S.


You say Wilhelm's mother was the sister of the wife of Tsar Nicholas II. But as Wilhelm's mother was the daughter of Queen Victoria, that would make Nicholas II's wife the daughter of Queen Victoria too. But she wasn't, was she?

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Let's straighten this out. Wilhelm II's mother was Victoria of Great Britain, ie Queen Victoria's eldest daughter. Alexandra's mother was Princess Alice of Great Britain. Alice was the second daughter of Queen Victoria. A diagram to illustrate this shows the following:

                          VICTORIA
                             |
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                   |                         |
                  Victoria                 Alice
                   |                         |
                  WILHELM II               Alix (Alexandra) = NICHOLAS II

As can be seen, Alexandra and Wilhelm were first cousins, and they were both grandchildren of Queen Victoria.

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Indeed. Let's jump right in and fix that. The Hohenzollern is at least non-macaronic now, though I think we could make it clear that it's a house name and not a surname... but one thing at a time. -- Someone else 07:23 Nov 19, 2002 (UTC)

Of course its a surname - Wilhem II was Wilhelm von Hohenzollern just as Nicholas II was Nicholas Romanov

They are back-formations from the name of House or Dynasty. In general monarchs do not use surnames. Nicholas was no more Nicholas Romanov than Victoria was Victoria Guelph. -- Someone else