Talk:The Carpenters

What is this text - copied from Edit:Carpenters, and invisible on page:

I think it's a link to the article on the Japanese Wikipedia. JamesMLane 06:12, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Carpenters v. The Carpenters

On the former Talk page, Heenan73 wrote the following, copied here for convenience:

In contrast to, say The Beatles, Karen and Richard were always Carpenters - so if you talked about the Carpenters, it would be the not The. So this page should be Carpenters, with a redirect from The Carpenters. Heenan73 14:58, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

My recollection is that they started out as "The Carpenters" but at some point the artist billing on albums was changed to "Carpenters". If that's correct either title would be defensible, though probably "The Carpenters" would be preferable in case there's an article on those guys who build houses. Another reason is that on the website http://www.carpenterarts.org/exhibit.asp (which appears to have at least a semiofficial status, based on Richard Carpenter's support), they're called "The Carpenters" (capital T). A final reason to move it back is that then all those links won't have to be changed. Right now there are many more links to The Carpenters than to Carpenters. JamesMLane 06:12, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

They were always 'Carpenters', right back to their first A&M release ('Offering'); links will auto-forward, not perfect, perhaps, but will allow people to find what they seek. And finally, it is surely more important to be right and accurate than go for convenience (let alone the dread 'It's Aways Been This Way!!). Just, as they say, 'my2cents' Heenan73 10:24, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)