User talk:Menchi/Stardate 0.0006

I mostly replied on this page to your comments and inquiries, unless it is a notice for me to participate on another Discussion page.

If I do not reply soon, it is probably because I am in meatspace. Either that or you happen to be a troll, perhaps literally. :-) -- Menchi 11:21 17 Jun 2003 (UTC)

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Move page: How?

Question: How do I move a page to one of pages that redirects to it? An earlier attempt to so move a page (not this page) resulted in "page already exists" error. What is needed is a page swap function. This is why I moved the contents. The location of the history is noted in the page talk. By the way, we still need a (Japanese) Kirin image. --Leonard G., June 1, 2004

I've never been to Japan, nor will I visit there any time soon. So, can't help with a photo of kirin.
If you see "Page already exisits", that's not an error. It simply means ...a page already exists there. Don't worry, you simply need to.... (I copy the following direction from pretending to move stone to mineral):
The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name, or contact an Administrator to help you with the move.

Since choosing another name is not an option here, you can contact an administrator by dropping a note on Wikipedia:Speedy deletions, because I may not always be in cyberspace and there are always packs of diligent and gentle admins just loitering 24/7 around places on WP like that.

Then some admin will fix the situation, usually by deleting the target page -- which usually is just a redirect or stub, so nothing to worry about. I believe this is the case with qilin originally -- that it was a redirect. Even though a deletion will usually be involved, it's not a good idea to bring it up on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion, because some people might misunderstand your intention and thinking you want to delete a legitimate article and there will be discussion and explanation (see inclusionism), and it will drag on and on and on in the bureaucracy ...... So, to avoid cut-and-paste when moving articles, Wikipedia:Speedy deletions it is. This kinda situation fits exactly as Candidate for speedy deletion, Type # 7. --Menchi 22:17, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Buttons

Those are the standard Mac OS X style buttons in Camino. Sorry. -- Cyrius|✎ 22:16, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Qilin

I am wondering if the "Chinese unicorn" is a qilin - I am doubting this as I have pictures of both from the same location. See the qilin article and compare the three pictures. Leonard G. 22:40, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

There are many mythical beasts in Chinese myths, but the common ones most people familiar with are only 4: dragon, lion, qilin, and phoenix. The other rarely appear as statues in architectures we'd normally see (i.e, temple, old houses). So, my flawed logic is that, if it doesn't look like the other 3 (dragon, lion, phoenix), then it has to be qilin.... >_< I may be wrong. Perhaps some day, somebody will come and confirm or disapprove those photos' accuracy. Until then, I feel those 3 are all qilin. --Menchi 05:37, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your support

Hi Menchi! Just a short note to thank you warmly for your vote in my favour in last week's sysop poll, and for your your encouraging words of support. Your support meant a lot to me, Menchi. Again, thank you so much. David Cannon 10:49, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Welcome. --Menchi 10:52, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

"Chinese" contemptuous?

Hey, i have just read an article written by a Taiwanese (i believe), which says the word "Chinese" is somehow contemptuous in English language. The general idea of that article is the author heard that a Korean was bullied by his classmates, and was called "Chinese" even though his classmates knew he's Korean; when he refused to give money to the beggar, the beggar called him "Your Chinese". Then he concludes that the word "Chinese" is contemptuous in English, and refers to an example in which the Chinese who are living in America for a long time are not willing to be called "Chinese" for this reason. The author points out that the suffix "-ese" is used to insult people (like Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Portuguese) and "-an" is to promote people (like American, Canadian, Britain, German, Californian, Texan), and at last, he suggests that we should force the English speakers changing the "China" into "Central Kingdom of Sinaian, (C.K.)" and "Chinese" into "Sinaian" just like what Iran did (he also compares the word "Chinese" with "Nigger").I don't know how you feel about this word "Chinese"? Is it offensive? Because i am doubting what the author is talking about. --Yacht (talk) 17:08, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, that's just non-sense. The -ese suffix originates in Latin centuries ago. It was sinesis in Latin, not "Sinaian". See the scientific names of orange (Citrus sinesis) and tea (Camellia sinesis). --Menchi 19:38, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

well, the Sinaian is a Greek word, meaning "Chinese" as well as "heaven" according to the author. --Yacht (talk) 02:37, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Neologisms.... --Menchi 02:45, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks very much. --Yacht (talk) 02:48, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Meizhou

Hi, I saw your comment on Meizhou I 'Cleaned Up' that page when it was posted, but have always been unhappy that I may heve distorted the original intentions of the first author, as you have a better knowledge of the subject, could you have a look at the first edition and see if you do a better deciphering job than me. Thank Giano 10:01, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The original version is like a distasteful tourism advert. It should be re-written from scratch because the info it does contain aren't that informative. (Not that I have the energy to do so any time soon.) It has no history at all. And the little bits on Hakka is repetitive of Hakka. This has not much to do with "better knowledge". The article is inadequate in regards to style as well. --Menchi 11:53, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I think the original was probably written by some-one proud of their homeland, they may not have great language or writing skills,but they were trying to put the place on the map, hence they should be helped and encouraged. I, for one, had never before heard of the place. Hence, the article was fulfilling its purpose. Compared to some articles which appear in Wikipedia, written by non-native English speakers, believe me that was OK. Giano 17:22, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Orkut invitation

Would you like give me a Orkut invitation? I'm Mountain in Chinese Wikipedia, and my email address is yuanml@pku.org.cn. Thanks. --Mountain 17:17, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Sure. --Menchi 18:45, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Compound verb

Hi, Menchi, I have always felt that all the grammatical articles of compound noun, adjective and verb should belong together and should be merged. After a fortnight's notice on "Duplicate articles" I finally attempted to move your original article "compound verb" into it, but unfortunately received the dreaded notice "unable to move this article", etc. I think the problem was that the main article had been altered slightly in the meantime and the system refused to move it. Do you know a way round this now so that your "compound verb" history can come across into the main article? I am also sorry this looks a bit underhand on my part, I should have been in touch with you before now.

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