User talk:Jmabel

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Livonians vs Livonian people and People in Livonia

I am no native English speaker, and do absolutely not hold strong opinions on this matter, but as you made one change, I wonder if this change maybe ought to be done in more cases. Consider:

Ingrians and Votes
Karelians
Finnic, Finnish, Ethnic Finns, Sweden-Finns, Finns
Sami
Norwegian
Swedes, Ethnic Swedes, Finland-Swedes
Dane, Ethnic Danish
Germans, Ethnic German, Auslandsdeutsche, Volksdeutsche–Reichsdeutsche, Baltic German, Volga German
Sorbs
Slavic peoples
Poles
Latvians

/M.L.

Ethnicity

(Placed here, because its a general topic.)

"Besides the grammatical issue, I can't imagine the basis on which someone denies that [people P and Q] form separate ethnic groups. I would simply revert this. Do others agree?"

On what basis are [people X] "separate" from a larger "ethnic group," or the even larger "human ethnic group?" Even among those who agree with where the "separations" are, the actual importance or value placed on those distinctions will vary with opinion. While some may prefer to emphasise the "unified" particular ethnic group, others will prefer to emphasise "unfified" even more particular ethnic group. I and many other younger people prefer to emphasise the larger human ethnicity, and here we may attach this to our operational concept of NPOV, with the understanding that things are only going to get less and less "separate." The only problem lies in that (for our definitions) distinction and exclusion (rather than inclusion) are inherent to our very concept of the term "ethnicity." Therefore what is "ethnicity"? What attached value for it do we emphasise here, in the spirit of NPOV? Regards, -Stevertigo 01:39, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Annotated Vicar of Bray

Jmabel, thanks for the greatly improved formatting on Annotated Lyrics to The Vicar of Bray. Over in IRC, it was suggested I not use HTML formatting for the footnotes, but I think your solution looks much, much better. orthogonal 14:53, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I've (rather radically) changed the gloss of "pudding time"; please check to see if you agree with this. orthogonal 14:51, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

France

I'd be happy to work on the French Revolutionary Wars stuff, but my ability to access the internet for the next few months is highly questionable, as I'm going to be in Europe. So maybe I'll do it, but quite likely I won't have much time for Wikipedia until the end of August or so. john k 05:18, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

"Heresiarch"

Hi Joe, the name comes from somewhere in the earlier chapters of Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy -- he jokingly alludes to the patriarch Nestorius as a "wily heresiarch". Bad enough to be a heretic, not to mention a heresiarch, nor even -- dare I say it -- a wily heresiarch. Naturally all of my opinions are quite pedestrian. "Heresiarch" is certainly a word that Borges would use, although no quotes come to mind at the moment. If you come across a Borges quote, I'd be interested to hear it. Regards & happy editing, Wile E. Heresiarch 15:15, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Learning project

Hi there, as I see you are into software and languages - except for Romanian/French the same as I - maybe you would like to help me with this. There is some discussion on my talk page. Get-back-world-respect 17:54, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Ruthenia

I am just a newbie, only my first day as a registered Wikipedia user, so I don't know what's the appropriate place to discuss Ruthenia entry. I believe I can prove to you that the sentence about "separate Belarusan ethnicity" (and implied "triedinstvo" of the Eastern Slavs) is just a myth, invented by imperial Russian historians (for well-known reasons). I think that sentence should be removed. -- [User:rydel|rydel]

Thank you for your note!

Thank you so much for you kind note and advice. I will do what you advised me regarding getting my name and time-stamp up.

A typical American, I don't read all the instructions -- I glance at them and think I know it all! :-) I fear this is where my problem lies.

I am used to being deleted, however. When people do not want to hear/read about the type of childcare I advocate, I have been deleted before. :-D If they can't delete me, they just stop talking. After two children, two stepchildren, and eight grandchildren from them all, I know that it works!

Once again . . .

Thank you!

Raina Raina 05:40, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Eth =

Thanks for the note, too. Ill get to looking at it later today or tomorrow. -Stevertigo 19:39, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Re: Talk:Anti-globalization movement

Thanks for the note of encouragement... it's good to see some positive feedback and I'm glad to see I'm on the right track here :-) I'm a bit worried about making some changes to an article I know virtually nothing about... - Ta bu shi da yu 02:36, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Jew

This recent (anonymous) addition goes strongly against most of what I have ever heard, and cites no sources. I don't claim expertise on this, so I leave it to someone else to edit or delete, but I do note that no sources at all or cited for something that goes against most of what I have ever read about Islam in the Middle Ages. It is hard to reconcile this with the high positions to which Jews at time rose in (for example) the Muslim kingdom cenetered at Toledo. -- Jmabel 03:17, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)

"In addition to the above examples, one must review the historical record of the destruction and persecution of the Jewish communities throughout the Islamic Empire. As the empire expanded during the centuries, the status of the non-Muslim communities remained precarious and subject to dhimmi laws. The Jewish communities were not second class citizens, they were not considered to be citizens of the larger community at all. Repressive measures against their persons occured with regularity as the Muslim majority massacred them with impunity. There was no protection under the laws and the word of a Muslim was sufficient to subject any Jew to harsh punishment."

My bet is Bat Yeor in Dhimmitude or another of her works. She is perhaps the expert on the living conditions of non-Muslims under Muslim governments. (sig added -JM): User:209.135.35.83

Left-wing politics

Regarding your comment on my deletion of the Leftism and Neo-leftism in China section, you were completely right. I was editing the Leftism, Pacifism and "War on Terror" section and by the time I fixed everything up, someone had edited the page, making an edit conflict. So I opened the current revision and clicked the section edit for what I thought was the right section and went copy/paste as I was running out the door. Then MathKnight merged the sections and it would have been hard to notice the China section was gone. Now I have more copyedit and npov to fix; I think I'll leave a message on his user page. Thanks for seeing it wasn't vandalism :) Telso 04:11, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Mini-CV

You are missing one bracket from each side in your Mini-CV section.--Josiah 04:54, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, that wasn't exactly the problem, but thanks for pointing it out. -- Jmabel 10:51, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)

Privacy policy

Good evening. You recently weighed in with an opinion on the discussion at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/User:Tim Starling/Password matches. On the basis of that discussion, I have proposed some changes to our privacy policy at Meta:Draft privacy policy. I would appreciate your thoughts if you have time. Rossami 22:21, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Guanabot

You raised a concern about the bot's changes to what users write. My concern is with changes made to Talk pages, and I've cited a couple examples where the bot changed a user's meaning. This discussion is on User talk:Guanaco, though, not the bot's page. JamesMLane 06:52, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Nümbrecht

Thank you for your help. My english is not so good. Mrfinch 12:57, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The Powers that Be

Wouldn't that fact that the show was about A US senator imply it's American origins?...Just a question? --Scorn 04:01, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Jmabel. Your response makes a lot of sense. Any advice is helpful.--Scorn 00:16, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Political liberalism

The new pages can be found at Political liberalism in Germany, Political liberalism in the Netherlands, Political liberalism in the United Kingdom and Political liberalism in the United States. I deleted the remark in the Dutch page on Belgium. Sorry that I didn't mention this before. Gangulf 05:44, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I noticed that you made links to the pages on Political liberalism in Germany etc. I plan to make a list of these kind of pages at the Worldwide liberalism page. I would prefer that over having a list in this article. Please visit also Liberal parties. (sig added: Gangulf)

I am planning to integrate the pages on political liberalism and on liberalism into one page, whereby I would try to integrate also the text of the talk page liberalism. I would also merge the talk pages. Gangulf 11:10, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

My suggestion would be to have as main article the new article on Liberalism, this would be the top article in a series on Liberalism. The article Political Liberalism would be deleted. Does that fit in your ideas? From articles like liberal parties and worldwide liberalism a direct link should be provided to the new top article. Gangulf 17:05, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

How do I make and add a series template as you suggested? Gangulf 18:35, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your improvements. I will study the and might improve it further. The article is growing and I like that. Gangulf 13:18, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I would prefer the usages to remain in the national sections. It was a limited list of countries and the usage is so different per country. What we could do is to make a short paragraph giving some examples of different usages in different countries. Did you plan to do it in the article Liberalism or in the article Liberalism in countries? BTW, You can find the old text in talk:liberalism/old version usage liberalism - (Gangulf)

Party designation in early United States Congresses

Hello, I'm leaving you a message because you were one of the people that suggested the above article should be merged and redirected when it was debated for deletion. The consensus appeared to be to merge this material elsewhere but no indication was given by anyone who suggested this where it should be merged to. Could you please either suggest a location or merge the material yourself: if it's still on VFD/Old this time tomorrow it will be deleted. Thank you. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 21:27, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Discussion or text

Why do you prefer Discussion over text in the new texts on Classical liberalism and Political liberalism. Gangulf 06:54, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

So according to your answer at user talk:Wilfried Derksen discussion is just better English. Thanks. Gangulf 20:10, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Acadian

Greetings. I don't think Acadian should be in Canadian history. Acadian is a people, not a historical event. The Grand Dérangement or an eventual History of Acadia page could be in history categories. The Acadian nation still exists and is still strong and proud in present time. I think this is how we should do things if we want history categories to mean something and not be a mixed-up free-for-all where anything that has history (which the case of most subjects) is included. --Liberlogos 20:42, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

French Revolutionary Wars

Thank you for your notes; the main source of the material is actually the copy of Mignet you linked to -- I prefer paraphrasing it into my own words because Mignet's focus is mostly domestic and the military bits are scattered throughout. Other than that, I find that using google on a battle name mentioned but not detailed by Mignet adds a little detail, and as with so many topics on Wikipedia, the material is already on the servers, just not in the article a reader might look at first. For example, the bio articles on generals are a pretty good mine. -- Willhsmit 19:03, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Communard's Wall

I just wanted to let you know that I am going to translate page into English. I'll inform you when I'm done, so you can edit it for me. --Frenchgeek 03:13, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)

It's all finished. There were a couple of rough spot during the translation, but let me know if things seem unclear to you.--Frenchgeek 20:44, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)

Reconsidering

I will reconsider changing the templates on liberal history into articles, but first I go for a holiday. So it will take some weeks. Gangulf 21:00, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)