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Stargate article Find and Replace

I'm registered for AutoWikiBrowser, so if any of you have a certain Find and Replace you'd like done to a large list of Stargate articles, let me know and I'll be happy to run it through.-- Alfakim --  talk  10:38, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Project Newsletter / Inactive participants

Had this idea for a project newsletter, tell me what you think. I feel that half of our sizable list of participants don't integrate half as well as they could with the project because it's kind of non-dynamic. A newsletter could be put together by active project members maybe once every quarter (or more/less as needs be) - which will list things that have happened Stargate-wise on Wikipedia, and more importantly things that need to be done - particular projects for the quarter, collaborations, etc. Also, news and info for editors.

Participants can then sign up to the newsletter by adding their name to a list, and when the letter is done I can AutoWikiBrowse a message to everyone on the list to tell them that the new newsletter is out. I think this would really aid project coordination. This idea entirely relies, however, on a small team of fairly active/dedicated editors for the newsletter, so - anyone think this is a good idea? -- Alfakim --  talk  20:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure. I believe it depends on why the "participants don't integrate half as well as they could." The project page is already well put together, and the Stargate project does seem amazingly well unified (to me). But if you think it would help, I'll put in my projects/things that could be done. Everyone contributes something different to Wikipedia, though. Armedblowfish 23:31, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
hey maybe it was just me. We have a good list of participants but there are some names I rarely or have never seen editing articles (until yesterday i had every stargate article on my watchlist).
Perhaps I could cut this article down. It just feels to me that a lot of participants can't quite find "what to do" or "how to help" - the "things to do" is more of a "bad articles in stargate". There's no "collaboration of the month"-type-stuff going on. Although the project page is good, how many people actually look at it? -- Alfakim --  talk  19:34, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are other possibilities. Perhaps they simply are not at present time particularly active participants to Wikipedia. Or perhaps they are currently devoting their efforts to another area of Wikipedia. Or perhaps they have a very specific idea of what they, personally, would like to contribute to this project (or Wikipedia as a whole). Or maybe you are right. Or maybe more talk pages need to link to the project page. It is hard to know without them telling us themselves. Perhaps expand the contributors list to allow them to specify what they, personally, are interested in working on? Armedblowfish 02:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I thinkn it's not that they are not active in the project, but more that they are nnot active on wikipedia. If you check some of our inactive memeber's contributions list they haven't logged on in months. We have 40 project members but only about 15 participate. Perhaps we should have an active members l-ist and a inactive members list. Tobyk777 04:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of a roll-call similar to that of WPFF, but there's not much point. This talk page is a kind of roll-call in itself, so we know who's active. Just to say, I have 2 weeks of exams right now so I won't be as active for a bit. -- Alfakim --  talk  08:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some more merging

Now when we merged Wraith and Asgard articles, I think it's time to have a look at the system lords. This has been discussed before but with no effect. Which of the system lords deserve their articles? I suggest Apophis, Anubis and Baal, eventually Yu. The others have only episode roles so we should merge them. Comments? --Tone 21:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Partial agreement: I think that we need more articles than just the ones you mentioned. Ra, Osisris and sokar need them. We should keep Amatersu too. Then, there are some very minor ones, like seth which should be merged. We need an article : List of minor System Lords in Stargate Herur, Seth and a few others should be in it, but I think that there are more system lords worthy of articles than just the ones you named. Tobyk777 03:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
IMO we should only keep Apophis, Anubis, Baal and Yu because despite the importance of some of the other Goa'uld, they appear too less to keep an own article. So I think we should merge them like the following:

List of major System Lords: Cronus, Heru-ur, Ra, Sokar

List of minor Goa'uld: Amaterasu, Amonet, Hathor, Kytano, Nirrti, Osiris, Seth, Tanith, Zipacna

I think this would be the best solusion and perhaps we should ad Yu to the first list. So what do you think? Diabound00 06:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, having a separate article for minor and major system lords is better than one for all (probably too long). I will wait for some more comments and then proceed. --Tone 11:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tanith wasn't a system lord. anyway, we've already got a good list at System Lord - dont split it. As for system lords that actually should have articles outside of that list, we need Anubis, Baal and Apophis without any doubt. Ra - possibly - he's big but doesn't have much info. Sokar, Heru-ur, Yu, Nirrti - again, possibly. Yu is the most likely to have an article because he does have some information on him. -- Alfakim --  talk  14:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid confusion, there should also be an article named something like Non-System lords Goa'ulds in Stargate and there we should put Tanith, Kitano, Klorel... there are quite some. So there are 3 merged articles and 4 or maybe more separate articles. Is it now ok with only Apophis, Anubis, Baal and Yu as separate? --Tone 19:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Minor Goa'uld or List of minor Goa'uld would be a better name, but otherwise, yes. This was suggested above. I'm not sure Yu needs a separate page... he was in a lot of episodes, but only ever in a minor role. --Tango 21:35, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What about merging System Lord with Goa'uld, having a major oa'uld list there, then have the current List of Goa'uld stay? American Patriot 1776 00:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think there's enough to say about Goa'uld in general for a full article - having major goa'uld there would make the article too long. --Tango 12:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay -

Goa'uld - about the race, and a list of major non-system lords.
System Lord - about the body, and a list of all system lords.
...with articles only for Anubis, Baal, Apophis and Yu. (all other articles merge and redirect to System Lord or Goa'uld as appropriate)
we do not need extra lists though. The above system does well. -- Alfakim --  talk  19:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. I can do it tomorrow or if you would like, you can do it yourself. --Tone 23:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

also consider putting the list of major non-system lords in List of Goa'uld characters in Stargate SG-1 (i.e. seperating out that list) - instead of in the main Goa'uld article.
Don't have editing time right now m'afraid... i have exams. -- Alfakim --  talk  01:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Episode Guide

What's the current status of the episode articles? If there are some still needing work, do we need a list with the status of each article so people know where to work? --Tango 15:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's the best if you look into the category Stargate stubs. There you will find all the episode articles which need a longer Plot. Look at the episode articles which are already done to see how long a Plot summary should be. A good example is It's Good to Be King (Stargate SG-1). Also you can add some notes, quotes and external links to every episode (if there is anything to add). I think it's also good to look through all episodes, something I do from time to time. Diabound00 16:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well... they've been referenced... all of the ones that have aired have at least one transcript linked... a number of them have summaries and reviews linked... a few of them have other things linked... and the ones that haven't aired have spoilers linked. They could perhaps use additional references, such as from more offical sites. GateWorld does have spoilers for a two-part Stargate Atlantis episode (The Return) which I didn't see an article for. And I don't see any episode articles for Stargate Infinity, just a list w/ redlinks. And there are two Stargate Atlantis episode articles that need to be deleted (due to copyvios), and have the temp pages moved to their present locations (which requires an admin). Also, most of them don't say they're part of Wikiproject Stargate on their talk pages. Armedblowfish 02:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikiproject Stargate thingy on each talk page is important, but Stargate Infinity is not only a joke, it's a joke which I doubt anybody on this project ever actually watched (it being a kid's show). LD 02:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't know. I'm mainly concerned about the references. So if you do create articles on them, either add external links or ask me to do so. Armedblowfish 08:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Lol... I watched 1 episode of Infinity just to see. It's something we should look into only after the rest of the wikiproject is basicalyl complete. No one liked infinity, not even the kids. not even the producers. -- Alfakim --  talk  19:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've never seen Infinity either... I should probably find a copy of some somewhere... Anyway, I've had a go at expanding Out of Mind (Stargate SG-1), can someone take a look and tell me if that's enough of a plot description? (The rest of the story will obviously go in Into the fire (Stargate SG-1).) I've left it marked as a stub for now - can the stub tag be removed, or does it need more? --Tango 16:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, is there an already existing system for spoiler tags of multiple seasons? I've done one in Hathor (Stargate) by substing it and altering it appropriately - is there a better way? --Tango 16:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sort of. {{plot-info}} allows you to make an aside about spoilers for other (multiple) seasons. See The Enemy Within (Stargate SG-1) for an example.-- Alfakim --  talk  23:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Useful to know, but doesn't help in writing about a 2-part story that was split over 2 series (last of one, first of the next). I could separate the plot into the 2 parts, but I think the home-made spoiler tag I put there is better, if another method doesn't exist. I might look at the templates and see if there's a way of making a template to do it automatically, but it's a whole load of nested templates which would probably get very confusing... --Tango 10:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Use of white text to hide spoilers

Please stop it. I know it seems stupid to some, but Wikipedia conventions forbid the use of white text to hide spoilers. On the larger issue of whether to include GateWorld-released spoilers, if the people reading the text disregard the spoiler warning, that's their problem. Lockesdonkey 21:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was unaware this was taking place. Could you point out places where it's been used so we can remove it? -- Alfakim --  talk  23:10, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't remember where it was before, but I know it occurred on Daedalus-class battlecruiser; I removed it. LD 23:16, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I left a message on Alyeska's talk page, he seems to be the one doing it. I'm trying to find out why... American Patriot 1776 00:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. It's not that big a deal. Alyeska probably wasn't aware of the policy when he or she made the text white. And no permanent damage to Wikipedia was done. We don't want to frighten away potential contributors just because they make little mistakes. Armedblowfish 14:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes don't scare them off, but do let the person know. -- Alfakim --  talk  16:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CSS breakage

While we're on the topic of style, I've seen a lot of CSS breakage on different Stargate articles, where text is overlapping. Note that this can be dependent on browser and window size, and can actually be hard to fix. It tends to involve templates and other text-boxes. Armedblowfish 04:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give an example of a page and browser combination that has a problem? --Tango 10:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hathor (Stargate). The character infobox and the recurring characters template overlap. I'm using Firefox. 1.0.6 on OpenBSD to be exact, though I have also the same sort of trouble on Windows and with other versions of Firefox. Would you like me to add the articles to some sort of category when I notice in the future? Armedblowfish 14:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I see it too. I noticed it on Athos when I added the infobox, it seems the infoboxes aren't taken into account when deciding where to place things lower down... I'll see if I can spot anything that could be causing it, but I'm hardly a template expert... Wish me luck! --Tango 15:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is one of the weaknesses of CSS. Good luck! Armedblowfish 15:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, not quite the solution I wanted, but certainly an improvement: User:Tango/Hathor. I've removed the "width=100%" part (on a copy of) the recurring chars template, and it seems to work quite well. The template still fills the whole width if there is nothing in way, but stops short if there is. I would have prefered to simply have it lower down, but I haven't worked out how to do that yet - I think it might be a problem with the infobox, rather than the recurring chars template. I'll keep trying, but I think I've found a good solution for now - shall I go through and change the real templates, now? --Tango 15:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't even see anything worth fiddling with on the infobox template, so removing the width thing is the only option I can see. I'll do it later this evening (UTC) if no-one has suggested anything else. --Tango 15:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't. that template still fills 100% width because of its contents - it wont work on other templates. there is a much better solution. On all the templates like {{Recurring characters on Stargate SG-1}}, simply add the CSS style="clear: both;" into the style element of the table on those templates. This will be the only change needed to fix all of these problems. If you're not sure how to do this leave it to me, but I can't act immediately, give me a week so i can finish my exams! -- Alfakim --  talk  16:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Example here: [1] -- Alfakim --  talk  16:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah! Someone that actually knows CSS, excellent. Thankyou! I'll add it to the rest of the templates. --Tango 16:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've done all the ones on the project page, I think that's all of them. It seems to work. Now I'll go and find a CSS tutorial or something and find out what "clear:both" actually means... Thanks, again!! --Tango 16:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This W3C page happens to explain the clear attribute. If you want a beginner's CSS tutorial, try looking at this page. Armedblowfish 19:06, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Single episode characters

Do we have a policy on which characters deserve articles of their own? I've just been working on Aris Boch, and basically it's just a plot summary of Deadman Switch (Stargate SG-1) and that's all it ever will be. Should the article just be merged with the episode, possibly with a redirect (either to the episode or List of Stargate characters)? --Tango 11:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would let Aris Boch have either his own article, or his own section in a list of character descriptions grouped together. I don't think character descriptions belong in episode articles. And the article does have a focus on Aris Boch. If you do use a redirect to list of character descriptions grouped together, consider redirecting to the specific section dedicated to Aris Boch. E.g.
#REDIRECT [[Minor Stargate characters#Aris Boch]]

Armedblowfish 15:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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