Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-05-24 Mail-order bride

Mediation Case: 2006-05-24 Mail-order bride

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Request Information

Request made by: The Famous Movie Director 23:56, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Where is the issue taking place?

Talk:Mail-order bride, currently the section "Poll on edits by Michaellovesnyc" in particular

Who's involved?

Mainly User:Kaiwen1 and User:Michaellovesnyc; myself and a few other users have been occasionally involved.

What's going on?

an edit war over two sections Michael added to the article: Demographics and Personal anti-fraud measures. Now there's a poll about the inclusion of these sections.

Recently a huge amount of text was added by Michael and User:Thomusin that makes the talk page look a lot more confusing. Don't be frightened; it's all an argument about whether there is a shortage of men in the former USSR. The CIA Factbook suggests that there is. Thomusin (I think) disputes this. But the main question is whether the Demographics section should be included in the article. I think it should be removed, because we have no information to suggest that this gender imbalance is a direct cause of mail-order brides. Therefore the section is OR.

What would you like to change about that?

Michael seems to feel like User:Kaiwen1 has an evil, racist agenda and that everyone against Michael is a personal friend of Kaiwen's. Another impartial opinion might help clear things up.

If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?

Just my talk page is fine...

Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?

I'd consider it, though I'm trying to spend less time on Wikipedia.

This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do

what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.

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