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"The glossary has even made its way to the ivory tower, with some of North America's foremost language experts weighing in on its cultural significance." —Ottawa Citizen, October 19, 2005

Under "Ahoy Hoy"

lists the credit to the word Hello to Edison. However, if you read the Hello link it clearly links it to Bell


Under America's Wing

A term coined by Homer in reference to Florida

Homer: Florida?! But that's America's Wing!

I am 99.99999% sure he said, "Florida?! But that's America's Wang!" - as in penis, which is funny. Wing, not so much. I've changed it, and unless someone links a script copy, I think it should be left that way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.205.47.32 (talkcontribs)

That was vandalism, and you just reverted it. Well done. --Closedmouth 10:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Worst list ever!

Entries like "The Bloodening" and "Bonestorm" are silly, since these are not neologisms but made-up names. Likewise "Maxwell Circuit", "Mumbly Joe", "Municipal Fortress of Vengeance", "Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence" and lots of other entries. Then we've got things like "sarcasm detector", "skin failure" and "brain medicine" which are made-up concepts. This article should be renamed to "list of things mentioned only in The Simpsons", since that's what it is.

I'm not going to edit this, since a) it'll just get reverted (slowly or otherwise) and b) this article is pointless anyway. The creative use of language in The Simpsons in general is notable and interesting. This list isn't. The most notable examples already have their own articles, and the rest is fanboy fluff. But that's just how I see it, mind you... 82.92.119.11 17:54, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with you. The list is too long, and includes words that no one would remember, possibly even after reading the list. I think it should just include the more popular and famous ones, though I understand everyone hase a different opinion on what is important.Iorek85 04:19, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I 'conquer' bonestorm and many others like "pog form" or "etroleum distillate" are lame. Bloodening is not wholly unreasonable given the other featured misconjugations of verbs --belg4mit
When in doubt, just keep them all. "Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence," for instance, is a rather biting criticism of our recognition-driven culture, which salutes the famous simply for being famous, long after any discernable talent has run its course. "In pog form": similar deal. Or that's what I would say if I were writing an academic paper on the subject. Which people have done. --zenohockey 03:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I forgot that this article is untouchable because it has been of use to some people... Sarcasm aside, "when in doubt, keep them all" is a terrible way of organizing (or rather not organizing) a list. If that's our angle you'll find that this isn't going to be of use to academics much longer. Well, any academics who aren't going after an Ig Nobel Prize, that is. 82.92.119.11 16:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think this list is overall crappy and useless, with the exception of a few notable Simpson's neologism. A neologism is defined as a word, term, or phrase which has been recently created, and according to this list, the words presented are supposedly creations from the series. However, many of the neologisms on this list have origins long before an episode may have made a brief mentioning of the word. Because of that, the purpose of this article— a list of Simpson's neologism— has instead become a dumping ground for fancruft Simpson's quotes. I'm the biggest Simpson's fan around (or at least I was up until season 11 when the show started getting crappy), but this article is horrible and grossly inflated with garbage. It may be impossible to discern what neologisms are important to this article without a thorough consenses, but I feel that this list needs to be greatly reduced. (Notorious4life 03:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Fudrucker

I don't recall the episode, but given the description it seems to me it could be a portmanteau of FUD and muckraker. --belg4mit 18.124.2.224 21:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Polly Wolly Crappy

I think this should be added to the list. What Nelson calls Bart's guitar rendition of "Polly Wolly Doodle". Synystar 14:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marzipan_joyjoys merge note on article page

I'll start the discussion, since the editor who added the merge notice didn't:

  • Oppose Because this particular phrase has taken on a life of its own, it's a general American English neologism, not just a Simpsons neologism. The article is fairly robust and contains a lot of notable information that would be lost in a merge.--Anchoress 06:57, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I think there should be a mention on this page, but under the listing, it should just say "Main article: Cheese eating surrender monkeys" followed by a brief synopsis of said article, similar to D'oh!. This page (which, by the way, I adore) is really for phrases and concepts that don't have much significance on their own. This neologism, meanwhile, has gained enough notoriety to have its own article. In addition, the CESM article is quite well-written. -- Kicking222 23:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Anchoress. --Maitch 21:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Closed, vote was oppose... - Adolphus79 03:00, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Closed, vote was Oppose... - Adolphus79 03:00, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom... I promise, I'm not going merge crazy, just trying to cleanup Category:The Simpsons some... ongoing WikiProject The Simpsons work... I realize that the neologisms page is getting a little long, maybe we should break it down some, make it into #-L and M-Z or something... I'll add it to the project page... - Adolphus79 04:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Maitch 17:16, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(moved from Talk:A wizard did it) - Adolphus79 03:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

like I said, not going merge crazy, just trying to cleanup the category some... feel free to join us at the WikiProject & help clean it all up... - Adolphus79 04:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cromulent and Blackadder

The section on the word cromulent claims that the word was first used in blackadder. However, I can find no reference to it in the scripts I found online. I assume the claim is that the word appears in the episode "Ink and Incapability" when Black Adder makes up words for the dictionary. Can someone confirm the word really did appear in this (or any other) episode? OoberMick 13:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't, but not for lack of trying. Blackadder makes up contrafibularities, anispeptic, frasmotic, compunctuous, pericombobulation, interfrastically and pendigestatory interludicule in that episode to vex Samuel Johnson, but cromulent is definitely not part of the list. (As a humorous aside, right after coining some nonsense words he talks of "facilitat[ing] your velocitous extramuralisation", which happens to be meaningful.)
I can't say for sure the word never appears elsewhere, but I'd be highly surprised, as I have a very good memory for linguistic nonsense like that, and I don't recall it at all. As far as I know, The Simpsons is the origin of the word, and the burden of proof is on the one who claims the opposite. 82.92.119.11 19:35, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]