Talk:Marmite

Vitamin B12 claim

Vitamin B12 is light sensitive. So does Marmite's claim of B12 make sense as it is stored in glass jars?

The jars are made of very dark glass Bob Palin 15:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But even B12 tablets have to be stored in opaque containers.

I've moved this text:

"(claims of B12 disputed, as B12 is sensitive to light and Marmite is stored in glass jars)"

out of the article as it's not NPOV unless we can provide something to back up the statement. (And no, I'm not a Marmite apologist - I like the stuff, eat the stuff, grew up with it but I don't really care if it's 60%, 20%, or -2 billion% of the RDA...) I've also adjusted the percentage to match the new RDA numbers. --Ckatz 05:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But it is a fact that B12 is sensitive to light, so I do not think I am biased.

Try holding an empty Marmite jar up to the light, it's pretty dark, I doubt any significant reduction in B12 takes place especially as in a full jar most of the Marmite is shielded by the Marmite at the surface. Most Marmite jars are probably kept in dark cupboards anyway once they are off the shelves at the store. What is your motivation and why won't you sign your comments? Bob Palin 16:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In fact the bottle says on it "store in a dark cool place" Bob Palin 17:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To the IP editor: I'm not saying you are biased, and I apologize if you misinterpreted my remarks as such. We can discuss the subject on the Marmite talk page, base our responses on our knowledge, our logic, even our emotions, and then - if we desire - take personal action based upon the conclusions reached here. However, it's quite something else entirely to then write these conclusions into the Marmite article. If, however, a recognized body releases a study that says "we dispute the claims about B₁₂ in Marmite due to concerns about storage" (or any sort of conclusion, for that matter), then the encyclopedia article can reference it. --Ckatz 05:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Further to Bob Palin's comment above, you might want to consider registering a username. Given the high rate of vandalism on Wikipedia by anonymous editors, you might find that registering eliminates problems with your edits wherein people presume that you're less than serious. It's still essentially anonymous (who is "Ckatz" anyways?), but it says you're willing to take ownership of your edits. --Ckatz 05:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Avalibility in various countries

Availability of Marmite in the USA has improved somewhat over the last 5 years. I have lived in Upstate New York, Reno (near Lake Tahoe) Nevada, Atlanta Georgia, and Greenville South Carolina, and all of those places have had at least one regional-chain supermarket (suhc a Publix, Kroger, Safeway, etc.) that has carried Marmite. In addition newly emerging "health food" supermarkets, such as Whole Foods Market almost always carry Marmite. It's quite expensive at the American retail level, with a small pot of Marmite costing approximately $6.

You can also buy it at Tesco in Prague, Czech Republic, under their own brand name 'yeast extract'. As a childhood fan of marmite, I honestly can't taste any difference between this 'own brand' and the 'real thing'.

In Sweden, Marmite is available in the shops specialized in english food that can be found in the major cities. Also, it can be found in some shops selling health food and in at least one Hong Kong import shop. In Paris, France, all the indian food shops i looked into carried Marmite. Battra 18:15, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added the countries from http://www.marmite.co.uk/love/worldwide/ to the article. Battra 18:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Breweries?

Is it worth mentioning that a marmite-esque odour is commonly emitted by breweries (for obvious reasons)? I lived on a 3rd-story flat in Slateford, Edinburgh, downwind of the breweries, and the smell of marmite was inescapable in the flat and for a considerable distance around it (which certainly pleased a marmite-loving flatmate, but I digress). 16:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Proposal to change marmite jar!!!

My brother in the US has just emailed me an article from Slashfood that says Marmite are planning to change their traditional jar to a plastic one !!!! What shock horror! How can this be? We should all join together and protest it worked for Heinz when they were thinking of withdrawing salad cream, surely it can for this. What do you all think out there Carrots

As a by-product

It can be said to be a successful attempt to sell industrial waste; but this should not be a disincentive: compare with the success of rotting grape by-products (a.k.a. wine).

I removed this remark, as the humour is somewhat laboured, in my view, and bordering on POV. Yes, Marmite is a successful attempt to market what would otherwise have been a wasted by-product, but the comparison is poor: non-fermented grapes are more a by-product of the production of wine than the other way around (most grapes are grown to make wine; most beer is not brewed to make Marmite). No-one ever set out to market rotting grapes as a principal product and then discovered that there was a market for the juice they had ben thowing away. The origin of Marmite in brewers' waste should indeed be mentioned, but in a better way than this. --- Picapica 10:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note also that Burton, where Marmite apparently started, is famous as a brewing town. PeteVerdon 17:50, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Used Cylindrical Jars in Canada

Actually, although I once wrote 10 rhyming couplets about Marmite [1] (also probably dejanews searches--soc.culture.british), I've been off it for quite a few years. I believe it is being imported into Canada now--it was when I was last using it. However, for a few years it was produced in Canada and marketed in cylindrical brown glass jars--about the same size as the small marmite-shaped ones, but not marmite-shaped. I'll see if I have one or two saved at home (I vaguely remember the lids starting as metal and then changing to plastic). If so, I'll try to see about getting a photo or two.--SportWagon 22:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The jar I bought recently in Toronto was glass with a plastic lid and shaped like a proper Marmite jar, definitely not cylindrical. Dabbler 03:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was talking about sometime in the late eighties or early nineties. I indicated, though vaguely, that the use had ceased before I stopped "using".--SportWagon 16:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately,when I found a stash of old Marmite jars at home, none of them were the cylindrical kind I describe. I'm not sure whether I actually have any saved somewhere, or not.--SportWagon 22:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]