Talk:Hans Maharaj

I do not understand Jossi why you removed the statement that Maharaji became the guru of the DLM. Why? Thanks in advance. Andries 05:31, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Because you are using "guru" as a demeaning term. That is intentional POV and you know it.

Maharaji did not became the guru of the DL, because DLM was an organization. The term guru connotes a relatonship between a student and a teacher. It has nothing to do with an organization. At least not in the case of Maharaji. I will revert it, unless you explain why it is important to make that characterization. -- ≈ jossi ≈ 16:43, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

Because every objective outsider would agree that he was a guru. Even David V, Barrett The New Believers Sects, "Cults" and Alternative Religions (page 325) who writes very sympathetic about Elan Vital writes this. I really think you have lost common sense if you think that he was not a guru. I have never read in any English dictionary that "guru" is a pejorative word. If you have an English dictionary that says so then please let me know. Andries 17:34, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I am not arguing that he was a not guru. What I am arguing about is that you are using the word guru in a demaning maner that reflects your POV. I will attempt to write it within NPOV so you can see my point. -- ≈ jossi ≈ 19:17, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

I am asking a question over on the Elan Vital talk page about Prem Rawat's relationship to the Elan Vital organization, and I suspect a similar fact inclusion here would be useful: can we establish and document in this article (and/or in the DLM article) a particular organizational relationship between Prem Rawat and the DLM? Or, if there is a dispute about the nature of that relationship, can we instead document that dispute in the article? --Gary D 21:57, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Wim Haan writes that Hans was a member of the arya Samaj. The article says Brahmo Samaj. Somebody must have made a mistake. Andries 15:05, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Haan is wrong. Shri hans was a member of the Brahmo Samaj. reverted. --≈ jossi ≈ 15:54, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)