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Which space? User space?

I think you want User talk:68.162.218.43 not Talk:68.162.218.43

Yes, thanks. My mistake. I was just now looking at the documentation trying to figure out how to delete the Talk:68.162.218.43 version. The documentation is great, incidentally, so I can probably figure it out. But I will ask if I find a blind alley.
By the way, great work in getting the system back up--and keeping us all "in touch" when the database was down. Rednblu 15:54 28 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Marker

Hi, what use are the markers you sometimes insert for? Not that it would disturb me, it just makes me curious and I saw it several times already and can't figure out what it's good for. -- JeLuF 08:02, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Good day, Je. I use the markers to indicate where in the stack I did something. I usually put a number on the marker which matches a number in my log book. It is like putting a bookmark in a book. How is everything going? I won't be able to answer in a while because I will be at a conference. Have fun. Talk to you when I get back. Rednblu 09:15, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Democritus

Hi,

on atomism you wrote:

Many scholars attribute the large loss of Democritus's writings to the bans that various organizations of the Church made against copying Democritus's writings for the next generations to read.

As reference you cite The Atomists: Leucippus and Democritus. But I did not find any evidence for the above claim in the book (admittedly after only cursory reading). Could you give me an exact page reference?—Eloquence

Certainly. Thanks for your interest. Yes. The link is in one of Taylor's sources in a footnote. Let me find it for you. I won't be back to my office though until the middle of September. Rednblu 05:05, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)
The sooner you can help the better -- the library will want the book back soon. If you could give me any pointers where to find the footnote (which chapter/topic), that would also be good.—Eloquence 11:33, Aug 18, 2003 (UTC)

"Speak in anger and you'll give the greatest speech you'll ever regret." [1]

The above quote is from "When strangling someone is not an option" by a certain Dr. Freeman. --Uncle Ed 15:22, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Thank you, Uncle Ed. I agree with everything you say. [2] and [3]

I have a serious proposal. Would you be willing to stop editing the creationism article AND posting on its talk page for a while? This would give the others a chance to make some progress, I think.

I am not asking for a binding promise, of course, but I think if you "butted out" for a while you might find the article taking shape faster without your help than with it.

Please consider giving this experiment a try. Thanks. --Uncle Ed 14:50, 29 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Yes. My thoughts, exactly. You are great, my friend. Just this brief note to let you know I read and understood your message. Rednblu 20:59, 31 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Democritus

Any news regarding the Democritus statement I asked about above? I'll have to to return the book in a week and still haven't found the footnote.—Eloquence 22:55, Oct 2, 2003 (UTC)

Remarks in Talk:Religion

Might I suggest you indent your suggested outline of topics in Talk:Religion#Discussion of Re-organization of Religion to be lined up with the rest of your comment?

Here's what I mean:

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Great idea. Could we organize around the various aspects of religion while going through the above religion and non-religion varieties? For example, all of the above listed religions have their own page already. So the religion page could be about the themes that run through the above list. The topics might be as follows. And the content of the current page would be scattered through the following topics.
  • Dimensions of transcendence; the supernatural
  • Developing a relationship with the transcendent dimension
  • Variations of privilege (such as being "saved" or "enlightened")
  • Initiation; becoming one of the privileged
  • Themes of Problem-solving
    • Theodicy; Why is there evil and suffering?
    • What does freedom mean?
    • Revelation
  • Historical influences of religion
  • Genetic influences on religion; Patriarchy; Parochialism
  • Justifications of religion
  • Rejections of religion
  • References
The above would be an outline and not a list. And I offer the above words as only a reply to your great idea, Mkm. Rednblu 03:28, 14 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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That way the flow of the conversation would be slightly more apparent (I think). - dcljr 04:24, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Done! Good idea! Thanks! --Rednblu 05:38, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Although it is only a paragraph long, I do believe that it is a useful article because it does point to several articles in turn. Otherwise, it should be. If you look at special:whatlinkshere/evolutionism, Wikipedia:Redirects with possibilities links there. Peope have mentioned a request for an "evolution (religion)" page, and I think that that is it. We can always change it to a redirect back to evolution, but I'd rather have a vote somewhere. Cheers, Dunc_Harris| 09:05, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

It's pretty much complete, I have asked on usenet for some information because I think it was used at one of the trials. I think even in its present state it would survive WP:VFD, it is effectively a bit of a disambiguation page, a bit of a dicdef. and you may list it there if you wish to obtain other POVs; the end is not deletion but a redirect to evolution or evolution (disambiguation). Dunc_Harris| 16:09, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

how to move text

Please don't cut and paste entire articles from one page to another. It breaks the history, and make it difficult or impossible to attribute text to its author. Moving articles while keeping the history intact is why we have the "move" function. I will fix the Pedro/Peter mess. - Nunh-huh 07:15, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Please don't "undo" anything. The article is at Pedro now, with the redirects fixed. If the concensus is that it belongs at "Peter" it can be moved back properly. - Nunh-huh 07:23, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page. -- Jao 09:18, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)

What are you doing on the religion page?

Why are you even interested if you are an unbeliever? If you believe in evolution, you should stay on Evolution 63.231.25.181 04:46, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Trio Sonatas

Thanks, good compromise. -- orthogonal 06:52, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[Reply copied as a coutesy. -- orthogonal 07:02, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)]

You are generous. I wasn't seeing the page clearly. I missed the little important fact that the signature that I copied in from the History file was the same as the signature on the vote that followed the insightful comment. ---Rednblu 06:59, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
It happens -- especially when those votes get long, as when certain garrulous people make lengthy, multi-paragraph arguments. :) -- orthogonal 07:02, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Great Seal of the Realm

I do not understand why you moved my comment on a page that describes a physical object to the page of the man charged with the keeping of that object.. Especially since the comment, now sans context, makes no sense. Elde 07:33, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting your changes. Adding an actual article on the Great Seal is in my to-do list. Elde 22:40, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Hello!

You're certainly a very interesting person. :-) I read the section on your user page on evolution.

I had an interesting discussion with (possibly) a scientism-ist at Talk:Scientific_skepticism (see my rant near the end of the page) many moons ago, which is the closest I can offer in comparison I'm afraid.

Have fun, but do take it easy on folks who are less skilled at philosophy than you are. You'll find that most probably actually agree with you, if you go slow and put things in plain english.

Have a great day! Kim Bruning 21:05, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Q: EEK! Did I just censor a comment of yours?

A: nope, not really, but I thought you might like to be granted a chance to rethink for maybe half a day to a day or so before responding. It doesn't help to get angry at folks eh? If you're still THAT mad after half a day, feel free to reinstate your comment of course :-)

Hmm, well, on second thought, while I certainly won't stop you from commenting, I think the errr ...quality... of the comment you were responding to speaks for itself. No need to lower yourself to even below that level, in my humblest of opinions. If you absolutely must rebut, try and just keep it to the point and factual. That way you'll come off looking squeeky clean.

In any case, you get a second shot at it now. Do your best! :-)

Have a cool day! Kim Bruning 22:47, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Sorry Sorry Sorry! I really don't mean to censor, more like keeping two people who are about to have at it apart for a bit, so you have time to cool off. DO please take time to consider before putting that comment back, that's all I'm asking. You've managed to win my respect, it'd kind of suck if you got banned for starting fights right after :-) Kim Bruning 23:01, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Just to be sure (in case you're not familiar with this trick yet), all I did was revert your edit. You can simply undo this by reverting the revert :-) Effectively this way, I've introduced a delay between your making the comment and when it shows up to people reading, and you're the person who is entirely in control of that timing. No more and no less than that. It seemed prudent to do that here. (and there's a wikipedia protopolicy which suggests that doing this kind of thing might sometimes be wise) Kim Bruning 23:18, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

NPOV

You have an uncommon mastery of NPOV. I hope you stay around long and spread the Wiki word. Too many of us have our own private NPOV POV, which is about the only POV on Wikipedia that is NOT allowed. How's that for a rhetorical pretzel? Enjoy the snack. Tom 17:34, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Rednblu, I am sorry to be pitted against you, as it would seem, in that article. My first impression was that you are confused and/or bigoted, but judging from your other edits, I can tell that you are intelligent and well-meaning. I just still don't think that your (assumed?) stance on Human is very helpful or lucid. But I do hope that I do not come across as hostile, and that at the outcome of this will be a true compromise to the good of WP. dab 13:43, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Troubling VfD Expln'n

You voted thusly on VfD, or rather Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of activists:

  • Delete. Out of scope. This is a bad rocket design. Ground at once! It will take the whole continent of Africa with it. ---Rednblu 23:45, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I think the black-American identity of the only person on the list sets a context where the Africa reference is likely to be perceived as a personal or racial taunt; i hope you'll amend your comment. --Jerzy(t) 01:19, 2004 Sep 17 (UTC)

Nice save, IMO! [grin] --Jerzy(t) 06:15, 2004 Sep 17 (UTC)

Tom Smith

Why do you want to speedy delete Tom Smith? It is a valid disambiguation page. -- Chuq 02:29, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

What does Tom Smith (filker) have to do with User:QIM? The article was written by SarekOfVulcan, not QIM. Angela. 02:55, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

Good question Chuq. Rednblu is a skeptic with a political ax to grind here at Wikipedia. He's been all over me. User:QIM

Princeton Project 55

Thank you for adding the listing to VfD for me. Comparing your edit with mine, I don't see any difference. When I added it, the entry kept getting appended to the end of Chris' comment for Dr. Michael M. Krop High School, the preceeding listing at the time. I'm still not sure what the problem was, but thank you for fixing it.  :-) SWAdair | Talk 07:15, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I am still working on it, but you can now check how have I advanced. I probably need a few more days. The school is too new to have produced famous alumni. Your support (Keep) will be greatly appreciated. --AAAAA 17:27, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)