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There is a user "Uncle Ed" who is deleting whole sections of my edits on the Unification Church page. I agree that I need to improve my edits and I will as time goes by. But I do not think it is fair to deleted whole sections. Why is it that a admitted Unification Church member like Uncle Ed can dominate the article the way he does? I know that religion is a difficult, and tedious area and I opologize for making your work more difficult, but I do feel the article needs to be more balanced.

Thank you for your help Marknw 16:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please stop me if I get carried away with Wikipedia:Text move of sections I see as poorly written. It's dreadfully difficult for one to be objective or impartial concerning one's own religion (or ex-religion? ;-) so any help from a third party will be much appreciated. I don't want to dominate the article, but merely be a co-contributor. As we say to our Korean elders in the church, "Please give me much guidance." :-) --Uncle Ed 15:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel Ed and I have come to an understanding and I feel good about our progress. Thank you Ed for being so good about it. Thank you as well Jacoplane for your help. With Regards Marknw 18:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

I just reverted a few edits to the Alizee article regarding info about her new single and album, because I couldn't find any verification for that. However, I am bringing this to your notice so that if you see any media coverage, you will know you have a reversion to undo. :-)

And oh, all the best for Netherlands today. --soumসৌমোyasch 17:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know it was some anon ip, which, I believed wasn't you (becuase of the style of language). I just requested you to keep half an eye (well maybe quarter since you probably are be glued to the TV) for any confirmation of the removed info and revert me in case you come across something that shows I'm wrong. Sorry if my other message gave any impression otherwise. And cheers, Holland won :-) --soumসৌমোyasch 19:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was editing from my phone when I wrote the original comment. Typing using a cell keypad is cumbersome so I kept the message as short as I could. What I didn't notice that it lacked context and hence appeared to disseminate a different meaning than what I intended. My apologies for that. Hope you didn't mind. Sorry, again. Btw, how's your mom? Hope she's better. --soumসৌমোyasch 19:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, hope you are not offended by the seemingly rude-sounding message, something which was never my intention. --soumসৌমোyasch 04:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Insulting anyone personally for their professional actions — isn't it enough to warrant a negative judgement about actions? :P I noew know what quality it takes to be a great leader of the wikipedians, who leads with diligence and kindness. Maximum respects, bro! This is for you.
A Barnstar!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar

I know this will mess up your userpgae layout but...couldn't help it :Psoumসৌমোyasch 04:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Its fine with me. I was only bothered about numbers. --soumসৌমোyasch 09:28, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Football AID 18 June - 24 June

Thank you for participating in the Football AID vote this week.

Netherlands national football team has been selected as this week's collaboration. Please do help in working to improve it.

Jacoplane, thanks for the de-protection. I'm going to lay low for a few days on that article and let others have a crack at it but I still feel fairly strongly about my previously reverted edits. Any suggestions from you regarding that? Netscott 17:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't remove the {{{cleanup-spam}}} template from 2006 FIFA World Cup. The whole point of it is to discourage people from adding spam links and to encourage other users to remove it when it appears. Poeple have been constantly adding all sorts of spam links to the page and we keep having to remove them. See Sudoku for similar usage. Jooler 01:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the usage of the template when there are not actually any spam links there. Using a comment in the code is ok, but this is just rather unprofessional. How difficult is it really to clean out all the spam links once a day. I've done it a number of times, no big deal. But I'm rather busy at the moment and I'm sure you won't agree and this could turn into a long pointless discussion, which I don't have time for, so if you realy want to keep it go ahead. I just wanted to say I don't think it's a good idea. Cheers, jacoplane 01:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I've had to remove spam about 4 times in the last week. But on some occasions its difficult to decide what is and what isn't a spam link and such discussions can also turn into long winded arguments. They have a policy about external links on the Sudoku page and it works well and I suggested such myself on the talk:2006 FIFA World Cup page. There are about another 500 odd pages that also use the template. Jooler 01:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: User talk:65.95.147.108

Dear Jacoplane,


When searching Wikipedia earlier, I saw that there was an orange bar on top of my screen with something addressed to the viewer of the page. Clicking the link, I found this text for the URL http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:65.95.147.108&redirect=no:

"Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Riot, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Jacoplane 20:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to Riot, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks. KurtRaschke 20:53, 8 February 2006 (UTC)"

I'm very sorry for this confusion, but I (user C_vasilevski) have never contributed or edited a page in Wikipedia before. I just became a member to address this concern. The IP address 65.95.95.147.108 was mentioned in the title for this page. I'm worried that what may have happened is that I may have been the victim of a hacker - is it possible for my computer to be unknowingly used in this manner by anyone else? I'd appreciate your help in solving this.

Thanks.

Inconsistensies and political interests

Is there a particular reason why the PKK, a terrorist group recognized by the USA and the EU, is not allowed to be listed as a terrorist group on Wikipedia and is sugar-coated as a "militant group" why while the "Holfstad network" is listed as a "Islamist terrorist organization"? One has killed thousands of people and is clearly labeled as a terrorist group by the USA and the EU (that includes the Dutch!). The other is a group that has threatened a group of Dutch Islamophobes. I think its clear which is more likely to be labeled a terrorist group by a long shot.

There seems to be a concentrated effort by some here to revise articles to make it seem like there is no such thing as suffering Muslims or Muslim victims in the world.

And yes, Islamophobia exists. You only need to live in the US a few days to notice there are actually people who hate Muslims because of their religion. http://www.un.org/Pubs/chronicle/2005/issue1/0105p30.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rigobert Song (talkcontribs)

I have been active in the Islamophobia article, but mainly in the role of Wikipedia Administrator, and I have tried to get people who disagree to collaborate effectively, and to overcome disagreements. Nowhere have I said that Islamophobia does not exist. Regarding the PKK and the Hofstad Group, you have to understand that Wikipedia does not define what certain groups are: we only use information from reliable sources and cover that. So when Mohammed Bouyeri killed Theo van Gogh as a member of the Hofstad Group, many media outlets, including Arabic and Turkish ones reported that this was a terrorist organisation. Therefore Wikipedia describes them as such. We are encyclopedists, not historians or journalists. We do not have the qualification or the inclination to decide on such issues. Regarding the status of the PKK, I am not an expert but again our policies of following reliable secondary sources is appropriate. You need to lobby organisations like the BBC or the New York Times, not Wikipedia, if you want to see a real change here. Hope that answers your questions. Regards, jacoplane 00:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Squad Template Adding Privileges

Also, why have the two most successful Turkish clubs, as far as their record in European competition, (Galatasaray SK and Trabzonspor) not had a squad template added to them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rigobert Song (talkcontribs)

I have created a number of the footbal templates, but you do not need any special permission to create and add them. If you want to create a similar template for Galatasaray, go ahead. If you need a hand please don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Cheers, jacoplane 16:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article

Hey see this. Its less than 30 KB, still an FA? We may use this when we take Alizee for an FA run. --soumসৌমোyasch 15:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Havent seen ur name on my watchlist for quite a long time. So just dropped in to say Hi. --soumসৌমোyasch 18:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hope your mom is fine. --soumসৌমোyasch 17:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for bringig it up in public. I am sorry IRC is blocked in my college, and hence cant use it. Do u use IMs like MSN or Yahoo?

hi im LIKE ur BIGGEST FAN!!! do u have big (oYo) ?