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Sorry for coming off rude. What I'm trying to say is, the people of the Syriac Orthodox, Syriac Catholic, Chaldean, and Assyrian C.o.E. are under the page Assyrian people. What I was getting rid of was the part that linked to a syriac-aramean page and had syriac christian linked, when it was unnecessary. Also, the rest of the christians are arab or armenian, which were already explained in the intro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penguins53 (talkcontribs) 04:07, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, MaronitePride. You know a lot about the Middle East's treasured Christian history. Would you know what percent of Maronites identify as Phoenician? I go to a Maronite church and almost all identify as Arabs, then as Lebanese. Also, do you know what the first ethnic group to convert to Christianity was? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penguins53 (talkcontribs) 19:21, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Thank you so much for the in-depth explanation. I seriously think that you could be a professor of ME Christianity! I hope to see more Maronites learn Aramaic/Syriac -- after all, Jesus spoke Aramaic. Yes, Assyrians don't have Arab ancestors -- however, it is suspected that some Kurdish Christians that spoke Aramaic naturally assimilated into the Assyrian community. A considerable amount of Persian nobles in the 2nd-4th centuries also converted from Zoroastrianism into Church of the East (Nestorian) Christianity, and learned Aramaic, ultimately assimilating into the Assyrian community, too. I think Middle Eastern Christians should unite -- and the first step to unity is learning Aramaic, I believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penguins53 (talkcontribs) 03:14, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, although Palestinian Christians were the first Christians - I don't know why, but I do not think they continue to practice those old Christian traditions, in comparison to, say, the Assyrians from the Church of the East or Syriac Orthodox Church, which retained nearly 2,000 year-old traditions. Penguins53 (talk) 03:22, 28 July 2014 (UTC)Penguins53[reply]

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Nice discussion we're having here. Well, what exactly do you mean by Palestinian Orthodox? What church is it in which these very primitive and ancient Christian traditions have been preserved in?

Yes, the Church of the East I would say has a lot of ancient Assyrian and Jewish roots.

Regarding Aramaic, I disagree. I speak Aramaic and picked up Hebrew -- reading and writing -- in a matter of five months. I think that Aramaic is the language of Christianity and I know that Palestinians and Maronites once spoke it. I would love to see efforts of a (re?)unification of Middle Eastern Christianity, and the first step I believe is language. Why doesn't Lebanon fund a program to teach Aramaic to Christians, or to be more specific, Maronites? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penguins53 (talkcontribs) 23:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You seem to be in a bit of an edit war in the Emilio Hassan article. I'm not taking sides, but suggest you and the other editor take the discussion to the article's talk page and discuss rather than continuing the repeated post and revert. I'm posting the same message on the other editor's talk page. Thanks. Vertium When all is said and done 12:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear MaronitePride, thank you for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, especially your recent creation of Kurds in Australia, which I patrolled. Keep up the good work! You are making a difference here! With regards, AnupamTalk 01:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed...

...that you are creating several articles about people of Canada. However, you are mostly just citing statistic websites, and I am not sure that that is reason enough to create this many new articles. Dustin (talk) 00:51, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Second that. Suggest you look at WP:My first article, if you haven't already. Regards 220 of Borg 01:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles on Middle Eastern ethnic groups

Hello. I am interested in articles related to ethnicity, including Middle Eastern ethnic groups. I have created a number of ethnicity-related articles, including some about Middle Eastern-related ethnic/ethnoreligious groups. So far, the Middle Eastern-related articles I have created are on Berber Americans, Mandaeans in Sweden, the Romani people in Syria, and Yazidis in Germany. I have also created a number of articles about Jews in various countries and dependencies, such as Aruba, Curaçao, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, French Polynesia, and New Caledonia. Some time in the future I plan to create articles on Yazidis in Russia and Sweden, the Romani people in Sudan, and Copts in Sudan, if I can find enough references. Perhaps I could create articles on the Mandaean diaspora and the Yazidi diaspora as well. Additionally, I have requested that the user who created the articles on the persecution of Assyrians and Yazidis by the Islamic State create similar articles on the persecution of Mandaeans and Shabaks, though I have yet to hear back from them.

I am not sure if you take requests, so feel free to disregard this message, but I was wondering if you might be interested in creating an article? What I had in mind was creating an article about American Maronites. Thus far the only articles about Middle Eastern-origin ethno-religious groups in the United States would be American Jews and Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac Americans. Other article ideas might be Coptic Americans and Druze Americans. Again, if you are not interested, that's perfectly fine.

One more thing. I have created an article about ethnic groups in Baltimore, including a subsection on Middle Eastern people. There isn't much information in that subsection. If by chance you have or could find any more information, would you mind adding some? Also, an article which I did not create that you might find interesting is History of the Middle Eastern people in Metro Detroit. Thanks for your time! Solar-Wind (talk) 00:42, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Good day. At first, thank you for this article and for indicating it to pl-Wiki.

I have undone your interwiki link in pl-Wikipedia, as interwiki are obsolete, presently we use Wikidata. Ciacho5 (talk) 08:13, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdish Christians

You undid all the changes I made in the articles "Kurdish Christians" and "Assyrians in Canada". I've redone my changes, and I suggest you take the time to read my explanatory comments in the talk pages, and if you find it necessary add comments of your own. I also suggest that you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's core content policies, notably "No original research" and "Verifiability", and that you try to follow these when editing articles.81.229.176.77 (talk) 17:57, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Until a statement is backed by reliable sources and research, it remains a speculation and a hypothesis, and as such should have no place in an encyclopedia. As the situation stands today, based on the sources that are available, people that endorse a Kurdish ethnic identity as well as professing to be of the Christian faith, remain a statistically and thus demographically insignificant part of the Kurdish people as a whole. Portraying the matter otherwise is simply creating an unsubstantiated view of reality. To speak of any substantial link between the Assyrian people as a whole, or any seperate Assyrian communities such as the one in Canada, and the minuscule Kurdish Christian congregation is likewise transgressing the bounds of reality. The purported emigration of this community whereby they seek asylum in the way that you allege, is also something that shouldn't be used as a base for editing any article here on Wikipedia until there are reliable sources and research to substantiate such claims; until that's presented, it remains anecdotal and irrelevant in this context.
As for the article "Kurdish Christians", any parts that I removed presented the source material in a way that differed from the source itself, which goes against the guidelines of this site. Had you read and understood Wikipedia's content policies, and had you read and understood my comments in the talk page, this would've been clear to you. The historical connections of intermarriage and assimilation that you speak of are likewise not supported and hypothetical, and shouldn't be used as a foundation for any editing on this site. The article Kurdish Christians has yet to provide any sources for such a presentation of history to be justifiable in a statistically significant manner. As it now stands it doesn't include any real quantifiable information; it speaks of either undetermined numbers or isolated cases of conversions, which in itself in the context of a people that numbers millions of individuals isn't enough to start speaking about close and converging demographical relations. Furthermore, the article Kurdish Christians doesn't amass even a fraction of the documentation available on the relations between Kurds and Assyrians; documentation that clearly describes a state of affairs far from amiable. To hypothesize in the manner you're doing, which in itself as stated before doesn't belong in an encyclopedia and is simply superfluous in the context of Wikipedia, one has to either actively ignore or somehow not be aware of this information, in order to present such a narrative that is diametrically opposed to documented reality.
Finally, nothing of this concerns the Christian religion itself; and whatever someones ethniticy might be doesn't change the premise of an edit or a comment. 81.229.176.77 (talk) 21:57, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]