Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Ultimate Sitcom 2nd nomination
Deletion nomination Here's the reason I gave the first time round in March 2006 which ended in no consensus: "This is a list from another one of those trivial cheap-to-make "list of the best" TV programs - typically a collection of clips and talking heads of B or C-list celebrities. It has no real authority. Wikipedia shouldn't have an article for every "list of the best" produced out by these tv programs or by popular magazines." Same this time around. Though I want to add in L'esprit de l'escalier (I was distracted and neglected to pay much attention at all towards the end of the first afd) a response to what during the first afd was JJay's reply to my rolling out the rating figures for this program (ratings which I believed to be not very impressive). JJay found those ratings to be impressive and said that we have articles for most of the other programs mentioned in my excerpt. I would now point out out that the one-off show The Ultimate Sitcom's (1.5m viewers) closest peers Get Famous, Get Fit, Get Rich: Celebrity Fitness Videos ... Exposed (1.3m viewers) and Larger than Life - Eating Themselves to Death (2.1m viewers, a program about obese people who can't stop eating) still do not have their own articles, and I hope they never do. The only argument I see coming from the keep voters in the first afd was "the program was probably seen by a huge number of people". There are many trivial programs on TV which get low ratings that still translate to large numbers of people but are insignificant by encyclopedic standards. This is a one-off clip show which is one of these programs. Bwithh 00:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Also, the #1 show was Frasier. Better than Fawlty Towers? Or, idunno, maybe Cheers? JChap (Talk) 02:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Keep despite the excellent nom, I'm gonna have to say keep per my previous comments in the 1st AfD- good article on a show seen by at least 1.5 million people during its 1st broadcast (and lots more, I assume, during rebroadcasts). I also note that Preying from the Pulpit, an article on a news segment broadcast on a local affiliate in 1993, was kept on AfD a few months back. If we are going to keep articles on news segments that never aired nationally or received major media coverage, I can't justify deleting this. --JJay 02:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Weak Delete. It has a page at IMDB and was seen by 1.5 million people, which makes me hesitant to delete, but then again, not everything listed at the specialized film and television site IMDB is necessarily notable enough for Wikipedia. The fact that it was a one-time broadcast makes its notability even more important, which isn't borne out by its 152 unique google hits (not including people using the general phrase "the ultimate sitcom." — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 02:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)