Wikipedia talk:WikiProject NASCAR

/Archive 1: 10 December 2004 – 12 January 2006.
/Archive 2: 12 January 2006 - 2 June 2006.

Archiving

Decided to archive the talk page, as it was 57K (recommended size is 32K or smaller) That, and it was a touch too long to be useful. It is still available here, and as its template states, feel free to "revitalize" any topic, by copy/pasting here. -slowpokeiv 19:52, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another archive here. Recury 16:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NASCAR on Wiki

I have founded a NASCAR Wiki. It can be found here" [1] My reasoning behind this is simple: NASCAR has many more terms, categories, history, etc., etc., than should be in a basic encyclopedia. I am interested expanded the knowledge of NASCAR, so a more in-depth Wiki is needed. I am currently copying over articles that I have personally written or helped write, and will begin transferring over others if no objections are raised. My plan is to equally contribute to both Wikipedia and NASCAR Wiki. Your help would be greatly appreciated. User: DaNASCAT

Proposed WikiProject NASCAR barnstar Award

I have proposed a barnstar for outstanding contributions to WikiProject NASCAR. Please let your opinion's be known about the design and concept here. Royalbroil 04:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I anyone gonna vote on it? There are no votes at this time. The barnstar will actually be an award (since the image does not include a star. Royalbroil 21:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. --D -Day ^{What up? Am I cool, or what?} 21:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please vote at the link above. I don't think your vote will be counted here. Royalbroil 03:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NASCAR article spam link discussion

I ask all WikiProject members to come here and vote to reach a consensus on where I certain NASCAR-related website external link should stay on the NASCAR article. Royalbroil 04:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Leicht

I have placed the Stephen Leicht article up for nomination at WP:DYK. They have requested that we unstub the article. If you can do this, please be bold and do so. --D -Day ^{What up? Am I cool, or what?} 19:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn't look like a stub to me. It is over 1900 characters, longer than the 1000 character threshold. It is on the short side for DYK, but I bet my DYK article on Sara Christian was shorter (but had a compelling story as NASCAR's first female). I'm not excited about either hook proposed. I'll think about another one to propose. I'll look, but I doubt there is much more information available for him. An Busch driver infobox should be added, which could change the look of the article a lot. The destub looks to be a comment to me from a non-admin (who might be lurking based on some of the other people's comments), so I wouldn't take it too seriously. Royalbroil 19:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

USAR

I created an article called the USAR Hooters Pro Cup. I know many NASCAR drivers got their start there, so please update any links you find to the series. I set up several redirects, and please add any ones that I omitted. Thanks! Royalbroil 02:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Economaki

I created an article for the legendary motorsports reporter and journalist Chris Economaki. Do you think he should be included in the WikiProject NASCAR or not? His contributions certainly have included NASCAR, but they go so much farther. Royalbroil 03:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it. Heck, I included Terance Mathis because he owns a race team. It'd be sacrelige not include him on this project. --D -Day ^{What up? Am I cool, or what?} 11:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Economaki has played a couple of long-term important roles in getting NASCAR's various types of racing known to the public. It's true that he's had similar effect with regard to other types of racing, but I would rank him in the top 100 most influential people in NASCAR's history. Tag him! Barno 13:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged him. I considered that he could be considered marginal for this project by some people. I felt so strong about Economaki's contributions to society that I nominated the article for DYK. Any contributions to the article would be appreciated. I've never seen so many awards/inductions bestowed on a person. Thanks for you input! Royalbroil 13:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Richie Gilmore

Someone created a two sentence article on the DEI Vice President Richie Gilmore. The article was immediately tagged for speedy deletion. I protested the speedy part of the deletion. I asked for WikiProject NASCAR members to be given a chance to expand the article if they felt it should stay, or otherwise list the article for regular deletion (AFD). I cited a nascar.com article to show that he potentially meets WP:BIO. Royalbroil 04:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chase for the Cup

I think we should break it out into its own article (out of NEXTEL Cup). Please comment. Royalbroil 03:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why? The Chase for the Cup is part of the NEXTEL Cup season. Taking it out of the main NEXTEL Cup article really leaves very little content in that article other than history, and it seems unneccessary. DiegoTehMexican 04:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the best thing to do would be to give it its own detailed article at Chase for the Cup and then in the NEXTEL Cup article have a brief section for it that summarizes the main points of the Chase article and have one of those {{main|Chase for the Cup}} links at the top of that section. Recury 13:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I meant exactly what Recury said. The NEXTEL Cup article is too long, and I think that Chase for the Cup should be its own article. NEXTEL Cup should be about the history of the series. Maybe list of Cup champions should be broken out into its own article too. Please comment about each potential article separately. Royalbroil 02:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I already created an article for the list of champions at List of NASCAR champions in April, but I never removed them from the separate series articles. I will do so now. I also believe the Chase should have its own article as expressed above, and maybe even the points systems as well. DomRem | Yeah? 02:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of current NASCAR races/table

I am working a nice pretty table to use instead of the bulleted lists at List of current NASCAR races. Besides looking nice, the other main reason for me wanting to do this is that I never liked all of the asterisks and dashes and things we were using to indicate whether a race was a night race or a non-points race, etc. The combination of the notes column and the background colors should take care of that kind of info. Can anyone think of any other things that might need to be included? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Recury 18:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I love the pretty table. Must easier to understand. I wouldn't change a thing. Royalbroil 14:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, light years ahead of what was. :) I might suggest adding Sun/Sat/Fri/Thur/Wed somewhere, and for truck, some indicator for if a busch/truck race was held standalone... (possibly a color coding for those series...) -slowpokeiv 17:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Simpson

Hello, I am not a member of the project, but I did just create an article on Bill Simpson (I've been creating articles on Indy 500 drivers). I thought that someone on the project may have some more detail to add to it to move it beyond "stub" status. --Brian G 14:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Individual race summaries?

There's a lot of good work here, folks, and while attempting not to fall asleep during the New Hampshire race today (one of my least favorite tracks), I had an idea/question? IIRC, on the F1 pages each individual race in a season is given a moderate (1-4 paragraphs) summary, including key details, storylines, major incidents, and perhaps a complete results listing. Each page is organized sequentially (like the races currently are). I noticed that this does not exist on the Nextel Cup races. I don't know what other people's opinions on this are, but I figured it might be a good thing to have. One way or the other, many of the race recaps on the 2006 in NASCAR page could use a little beefing up, which I'll probably be doing (without objection) in the next few days. --Bveale 20:47, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, the F1 project does do that, but in addition, each race is given their own page, not just in sequential order. In my opinion, the way we are currently doing things is good, but I would agree that a "beefing up" is in order, similar to the better entries in 2005 in NASCAR.-slowpokeiv 01:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right, that's what I meant. My only concern about doing that on the season page is creating something that's too big, as opposed to individual race pages that people can click on themselves. However, I have no preference either way.--Bveale 01:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]