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myg0t

re: Nice job, re: myg0t/myg0t mediation

Not liking a particular group of people justifies deletion? Can I delete George W. Bush's page, then? Not notable, you say? Join any server in any game wearing [myg0t] in your name and you're sure to be kicked or at least told to get out. -- Leandros (not the user)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.96.117.22 (talk • contribs)

Nice job, re: myg0t

Nice job deleting the myg0t wiki because you just don't like myg0t. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.154.132.227 (talk • contribs)

Thank you. I'm always glad to rid Wikipedia of crap and crap about asshats. --maru (talk) contribs 21:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow your really a great unbiased admin, deleting legitimate articles because you just don't like their subject.

How in go'ds name did you become an admin when you can allow yourself openly admit you deleted the article because you don't like the group? How did other admins nominate a person? This is really sad, Wikipedia is supposed to be changed by discussion, not by feeling-based rash action.

"State your point; don't prove it experimentally"

As an admin you should really abide by this statement, if you don't like the "asshats" of the myg0t community you can express this in its proper forum, deleting the article without discussion just shows that you should never have been trusted with admin rights.

There are some cases in which bold action must be taken; such actions are the reason admins are given such latitude. This is just such a case. --maru (talk) contribs 06:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I really wanted to read the article about myg0t, specifically to see if there was any information regarding why their site was down. You should delete GNAA when it comes up for deletion too, their a bunch of asshats aswell. Since obviously you have that kind of latitude :) 146.9.223.86 18:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there should be an article about myg0t because you want to see "why their site was down". Yes, that's an excellent reason for there to be an article. --maru (talk) contribs 18:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention. I came to wikipedia to see why The Pirate Bay was down too, its a logical place to go. Their site has been down for months apparently (from discussions I gathered on its and your talk page) I'm not affiliated with them in anyway, though I remember running into them years ago when I used to play CS:1.1 - 1.4. I saw a ytmnd saying that their site was down, I thought I remembered them, went to the site to find it was in fact down. I remembered the CS thing and went to wikipedia to see if there was an article I can read up on. The most information I've gotten now is from a newgrounds flash movie. I really like Wikipedia as a treasure trove of information and would rather see most information cateloged and indexed rather than deleted (I liked the way you guys forced ytmnd to catalog the details of their history themselves though). As a gamer I know of their notability and maybe you think by deleting their article you can make them less notable, because I guess notability is what they want. But that's censorship, you need to take the good and the bad if you truely believe in anti-censorship. --68.40.0.189 18:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC) (same guy as 146, different IP, I probably should get a user name).[reply]

Dude, they are definitely notable. I heard about myg0t within a week after I played CS for the first time. They're notorious in the CS subculture. There's an entire article about CS MAPS for christ's sake! The article should exist to provide unbaised, factual information about a prominent CS clan to those who want the information. Instead, you simply delete the article in an attempt to delete myg0t. It's plain as day that there is no basis for this at all except your personal vendetta against them. And you just make yourself look like an ass even more by trying to justify it and sound noble in the process.

"There are some cases in which bold action must be taken; such actions are the reason admins are given such latitude. This is just such a case."

Yes, because it is certainly such a problem that there be information anywhere about myg0t that you just have to delete it and ban the article without asking anyone. This is a case of abuse of power for sure. Seriously, this pisses me off. You're acting like a damn little kid throwing a fit. It's obvious that you can't handle the responsibility of being an admin, if you can't separate your personal feelings from your responsibility to be neutral.

But, it is pointless to be arguing with one such as you. You are the type of person who won't back down, no matter what, because you think you are right, and you twist things in your mind so you believe yourself to be some kind of martyr, defending against an overwhelming, wrong, majority. You are a disgrace to your position.--LifeEnemy 12:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

I blocked your account because it was running an unauthorized bot that was editing the comments of users. You have received many requests not to do this, even for small typos, which I think you should respect. Feel free to unblock yourself once your bot is no longer active or this problem is fixed. -- SCZenz 10:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. (I forgot to include the namespace restriction! D'oh!) --maru (talk) contribs 19:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your bot edited a closed RfC: Request for Comment/Ultramarine. This gives an inappropriate impression of new activity on an old RfC, as well as editing user comments. Please adjust your bot not to do this. Thanks. Robert A.West (Talk) 12:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The edit summary was quite clear. I don't see how a robot edit could give anyone the impression that a closed RfC was live or anything. --maru (talk) contribs 19:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, on my RFA, "the the" was supposed to be "to the" - deleting the second "the" made the sentence less comprehensible. Guettarda 13:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. Think that omitting a word is more comprehensible than a completely wrong word. --maru (talk) contribs 19:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree to this action anywhere. There can be case of a double "the the". There's a band called The The too who'll have mentions in various places. This should, if ran at all, be an AWB-only activity. No way should it be automated. Esteffect 21:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. I restricted replacements to two lowercases, " the the ", so it would only match in the middle of a sentence as well. If the band The The is referenced, it would be as " The The ", which doesn't match the text string. If it is mispelled as " the the ", well, it was already erroneous anyway. --maru (talk) contribs 22:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The bot is also incorrecting legitimate uses of "the the" (uncapitalized). For example, it did this for the film title Attack of the the Eye Creatures in List of Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes, which is specifically cited as an error in the film titling. (This is not the first time we've had to fix this "correction" in this article.) This demonstrates the need for human oversight of bot activity. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One mistake. Out of literally hundreds (or possibly thousands by now). And notice that it was an error- just an error that apparently is interesting. A mistake by my bot which has apparently also been made at least twice before. Notice also that I've suggested a solution which should work in the appropriate section for the particular error you mentioned. I don't believe hundreds upon hundreds of obvious errors should be left unmolested for the sake of one unusual exception that proves the rule; human oversight would have solved little here- it is well known that human error rates monitoring repetitive actions are... suboptimal, to say the least. --maru (talk) contribs 03:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Small Towns in Durham

Why did you add a cleanup tag to Small Towns in Durham? There's nothing to clean up. I've marked it for speedy deletion now. --Tango 21:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's one way to cleanup an article, I suppose... --maru (talk) contribs 18:23, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't an article, it was a random link to Sunderland, nothing else. Adding a cleanup tag when you could have deleted it yourself is just wasting people's time. --Tango 11:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bot woes

Hello. I have a bot issue. This page, List of Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes, has been change by a bot at least twice before. The page should read "it was originally titled "The Eye Creatures" then carelessly retitled "Attack of the the Eye Creatures."" The double use of the word "the" is intentional. What can I do to make sure this edit doesn't occur again? Thanks. --Wowbobwow12 01:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, most bots (including mine) are running on a strict string-to-string command. If there was some way to mess up the " the the " string in the actual wikisource, while preserving its appearance, then you'd be set. What I would do is I would change (within the source of the actual page) the " the the " to instead be " <nowiki>the the</nowiki> ". This way, the appearance will be exactly the same, but the string bots would operate on would be quite different, and so they'll probably ignore it (but make sure you add in a comment why you have the strange formatting, or someone will probably come along and simplify it). Of course, you could also insert paired nowiki's in the intervening space if even that doesn't work. --maru (talk) contribs 01:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help! --Wowbobwow12 01:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No prob. If it doesn't work, please be sure to tell me. (The above was my general solution to protecting text from bots, so if it doesn't work...) --maru (talk) contribs 01:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About the ics deleting

I was making stuff for the page. When I clicked Save, it had already been deleted.

Dunno what you are talking about. I did edit the article you are referring to, but I never deleted it. --maru (talk) contribs 03:09, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Odd speedies on New Pages patrol

Why aren't you deleting pages youself? If you're an administrator, you don't need to wait for someone else to speedy am article, you can do it yourself. And if you insist on having someone else speedy an article, you should at least use a proper WP:CSD category for your tags... --Grand master ka 03:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Put shortly, I'm being lazy and using a semi-automated bot to filter through Newpages and generally ease adding templates and deleting. I'm inserting {{delete}} in those cases where I'm fairly sure it'd be a speedy, but I'd rather another admin double checked. As for why I don't use the {{db}} tags? Haven't figured out how to add them into followlive.py, is all. --maru (talk) contribs 03:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bot Edit Summary

Robot: Automated text replacement (- the the + the).

Beautiful. Te ke 03:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

? Is this expressing approval for the task, amusement at the laconic edit summary, or something entirely else? --maru (talk) contribs 03:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Absolute amusement. Made me laugh on the inside :) Te ke 03:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well then, in that case... LOLs all around! MISSION- successful? --maru (talk) contribs 17:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Miltones flag

Saw that you flagged the Miltones article I created. I'm not an expert on the group but I know it has been around for decades at one of the nation's oldest prep schools. Is there any harm in having a short entry as a resource for curious souls on the Web? Thanks! --Stirlazy 03:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, student organizations tend to be ephemeral and of limited interest. You mentioned them as being "of historical interest" but your article didn't even try to explain or justify why there'd be an article on them here. So.... --maru (talk) contribs 17:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your - the the + the bot

Could you refrain from using your bots on user space? There's really no need to be cleaning up user pages with such a thing (the same goes for talk pages), and you could stand to remove information that was being stored there for a purpose. (Sometimes "the the" may mean something. Please don't let your robot make assumptions about the notes I leave for myself.) - Rainwarrior 04:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I concur here. I most strongly object to your bot making any edits to my user space, for whatever reason. I think from the comments above that you've got more than enough others who feel the same. I can't protest strongly enough that what you are doing with your bot goes against all bot usage guidelines. I am extremely upset about this, and I expect you to rectify the problem. AKAF 07:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Bots#Spell-checking bots seems to suggest that this Bot should not be allowed. You might want to save yourself the bandwidth. - Rainwarrior 16:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

True enough, but bandwidth is wasted if not used, and there have long been spellchecking bots for very specific restricted errors- and fixing double "the"s isn't actually spell-checking anyway. --maru (talk) contribs 18:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The argument about what is and what isn't spell checking isn't important to me. My request was that you not please not bot the talk or user spaces. These are special areas where a double "the" isn't actually a problem, and in the case of talk pages you're buzzing a lot of watchlists for no good reason. In the user page that brought this to my attention, I was doing a translation from another language into English, and the double "the" was actually a note to myself about the original grammar. Using this bot on talk and user pages has no benefit to anyone and will annoy many. - Rainwarrior 00:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly on other non-article-space pages: [1] - Jmabel | Talk 18:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ships

I think your bot is slightly mal-programmed. My article on HMS Repulse (1868) my text starts "HMS Repulse......". It has been altered to read "The HMS Repulse......" which is grammatically incorrect. I have left it for the moment, but would welcome your comments. In the Royal Navy a warship is spoken of as a person. Saying "the HMS Repulse" is like saying "the Condoleeza Rice".--Anthony.bradbury 16:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS. I know it's different in the USA. USS Enterprise, for instance, is an abbreviation for United States Ship Enterprise; HMS means Her Majesty's Ship, and the usage is different.--Anthony.bradbury 16:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As interesting as this is, I think you may have the wrong guy here- my diff doesn't appear to change the intro, but Agent 86's diff apparently does. Though to my ears "The HMS Repulse" sounds considerably more natural, but I'm an American so what do I know? :) --maru (talk) contribs 17:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks (for deleting vandalism)

You recently deleted Kimberlywooten, the user who created it has gotten a vandalism warning. --Geo. 21:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Think nothing of it. More credit is due the writer of the bot I'm using than me. --maru (talk) contribs 21:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Potato Hermits' entry cleanup

Thank you for checking my 'Potato Hermits' entry. Could you please give me some specifics on what needs cleaning up? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaL (talk • contribs)

Needs to be referenced, wikified, and notability needs to be better established- so they've been running a few years, but what makes them interesting and notable (hopefully on the level of Dr. Demento or similar novelty-music related topics). --maru (talk) contribs 01:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the pointers. I'll try to clarify the entry within the next few days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaL (talk • contribs)

fossil/GoogleFS similarities

Have you studied the fossil code? The article here on Wikipedia is very low quality, but fossil shows a lot of similarities with GoogleFS to me. I cannot cite anyone, that would be violation of NDA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrco (talk • contribs)

No, I haven't seen any of the code- none of GoogleFS because I don't think it's released, and none of fossil since seeing it would do me no good and I can't use it on Linux. However, again, I don't see any significant resemblances- no chunking over multiple peers, no master servers, no heartbeat arrangements, no overlay over another conventional filesystem (in the case of GoogleFS, ext2 or ext3) etc. And if you cannot cite anyone, then how is your contention that there is such a linkage any more than original research? --maru (talk) contribs 01:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is one master server (corresponding to the fossil server), fossil servers "chunk" to (multiple) venti server(s), which can run on Linux and store their data on files on any filesystem, and the "heartbeat arrangements" looks like nonsense. You just proved you know nothing about Plan 9. But isn't the whole GoogleFS article 'original research' since the project is not public and no code/specification was ever released? --Mrco 03:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I could only know that if I'd read the research papers and such- our article currently doesn't seem to mention any of what you just did.

And you've equally proven you know nothing about GoogleFS (hint: look at the external links section). --maru (talk) contribs 03:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Propedeuse + user page comment

Thank you for reviewing the Propedeuse wiki page. I added references and would appreciate another review if you will.

One thing about your user page I find very distressing. It states you do not use Microsoft products. Yet your user page states that you do prefer the XBOX over two other major game consoles, and that you are an intermediate gamer. Because the availability of PC-games for platforms other than Windows is fairly limited, I must assume that you are in fact in the possession of at least one game console, and based on a fact stated earlier this is most likely an XBOX. I must admit that the hardware is not a product of Microsoft, but the XBOX itself quite definitely is. Moreover, a wide variety of XBOX games have either been acquired and/or (further) developed by Microsoft, thus these games fall under the category of Microsoft products. Please correct me if I am wrong, but it can be reasonably assumed that you do use Microsoft products based on other statements made on your user page.

Well, as I've said before, I run Xebian on my Xbox, and as the only thing in an Xbox that is actually produced by Microsoft is the Win2k kernel and the bootloader and such, I feel my hands are clean of Microsoft products (as opposed to Microsoft-branded products, but that's another thing entirely). --maru (talk) contribs 14:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acceptable ;-) -- Eddyspeeder 13:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dahak

I don't know much about the series; I created an article for the ship to separate it from the main Dahak article, which was about a television character from Xena. --DrBat 20:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Fair enough. I seem to be doomed to be the only person in the entire wiki to like Weber's obscurer fiction. Oy vey! --maru (talk) contribs 22:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tacitus question on WP:V

Please don't write questions on blocked pages between commentary tags, makes it a bit hard to answer if one isn't a sysop.

Anyhow,

Straight link to Annals XIII, 20 at Perseus Project: Latin - English translation (Brodribb)
Although in Tacitus' condensed style it is not always completely one-to-one which word is translated to which, basicly:
- "consensum" → "consentient"
- "diversa" → "differences"

--Francis Schonken 00:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mm. It's still a bit odd; is Tactius trying to say, "I will give the consensus account, and when historians disagree with that consensus, I shall list their differences with the consensus account, and specify which historians hold which disagreements"? It isn't clear at all to me. --maru (talk) contribs 01:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well the Church/Brodribb translation is let's say a bit old-fashioned "circumstantial" (after all that translation was made about a century ago). I'd have provided my own translation, but would find that a bit odd on the "verifiability" page (after all, the Brodribb translation is Verifiable by the given link)

In short, Tacitus says something like:

If all historians before me agree on what happened, I just tell the story;
If the historians' tales differ, I give each of the differing versions and mention which historian told which tale.

Note that Tacitus' writing style is very condensed, which is sometimes very difficult to imitate in English.

Anyway, I'd still ask that you remove the hidden comment you added to the Wikipedia:Verifiability page yesterday, and move it, for instance, to the talk page, so that it can be answered there. There is no good reason for leaving a comment/question on a place where not every wikipedian has the same ability to answer it, IMHO. --Francis Schonken 09:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a wiki, we should be able to improve upon a confusing originall... But since the comment now has no purpose, I've removed it. --maru (talk) contribs 15:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...And you damaged the wikitable syntax diff, please repair to the last version of Musical linguist [2] unless you want the table to look different than it was, in that case: again, this is a protected page, discuss changes on the talk page of WP:V. --Francis Schonken 08:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adah Script

A way to open up in tabs all diffs on one's watchlist that haven't been visited. I guess this would probably be a browser-specific thing, but I waste so much time just clicking on links to open up diffs on my watchlist, almost as much as I do checking!

Did anyone ever point you to this? — Mike (talk • contribs) 17:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I tried it before. Didn't work. (Didn't work this time either). :( --maru (talk) contribs 13:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Works fine for me, actually — but unfortunately, I'm not techie enough to distinguish why it would work on my system and not yours. (I can say I'm using Firefox, which seems to be the best of my options when it comes to handling JavaScript.) — Mike (talk • contribs) 16:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

myg0t has a place in history

myg0t has a place in history and should therfore be noted. Not having a myg0t wiki is biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.33.199.230 (talk • contribs)

If you wish to start a wiki devoted to myg0t, then nothing is stopping you except laziness. --maru (talk) contribs 22:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

and we would do that how since "This page has been deleted, and protected to prevent recreation." --Olmeca 23:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...you would do that by starting a wiki devoted to myg0t, as I said. wiki != Wikipedia. --maru (talk) contribs 23:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

..... why does Wikipedia not have a wiki about myg0t.. wikipedia not having a wiki about myg0t is biased? clear enough for you? EDITED: Stop being pedantic. --Olmeca 23:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll stop being pedantic when you start using words with their actual meanings. --maru (talk) contribs 23:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As much as I am not enjoying this banter with you. Can you just answer this question for me. Why has the mygOt wiki being deleted? All I'm after is a straight answer not one that goes round and round in circles so that I have to keep posting back to your obviously very high intellect. --Olmeca 17:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm bantering with you because I've gone over this several times, in the DRV, on my talk page, on the myg0t talk page (note that I've forborn from deleting the Talk page like I could have - per Wikipedia:Deletion process#Articles for Deletion page or the CSD #8 although that might not apply - since I didn't want to keep having the same conversation) etc, and all patience must come to an end eventually. --maru (talk) contribs 02:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you maru for providing me with enough information this time to find out the reasons myself. Not all of us are veteran wikipedians ;-) Some of us just might of joined the other day and are still learning the ropes. --Olmeca 11:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Teika refs

Yes, it's much better, I'd consider the article now passes the 'inline cit. req.' with flying colors. There are still some formatting issues though (shorten the elinks in refs, the colorful tables in article look strange) - but it's close to FA. I'd recommend a GA nomination first, then FAC.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 07:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I was thinking of JSTOR links, they can all be 'hidden' to look shorter and tidier ([long_elink short_text]).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 14:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars ship names

Hello, Marudubshinki! (I might have slightly mispelled your unique name, so please forgive me)

I've noticed your prolific Star Wars editing! Three barnstars! Wow!

Hey, I've noticed you have been working on the Star Wars ship names article. I'll try to start putting in at what battle most of the ships have been destroyed at.

However, some guy has been trying to put the page into AfD. Please support me in saving it!

Sincerely,

RelentlessRouge 11:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've commented. --maru (talk) contribs 00:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted content of user:kzzl/yeah/no

is there a way I could see the content that I put in there? I didn't know robots deleted stuff just cuz "redirect target doesn't exist". --McKzz Fizzer 20:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The content of that deleted page was "#REDIRECT [[My dads drying method]]" and nothing else. I honestly don't know why you'd want that in your user space. As far as deleting goes, many people never notice that the sixth criterion for deleting redirects over on Wikipedia:Redirect is if a redirect is broken (although this one would also fall under not-making-sense); this makes sense since a broken redirect isn't doing anything, it is only in the way. --maru (talk) contribs 00:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ok. I honestly don't know why anyone would care enough to delete it. have you seen my userspace? I don't know what that phrase means. I don't remember making it. I bet there was prob one other backlink to it before but there are none now. whether something making sense is the most relative thing in the world, tho on it's face, the page def appears absurd at best. is there any way I could get an undelete? peace be with you. McKzz Fizzer 17:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well sure, you could ask for it to be undeleted (just ask any admin, like me, although there are formal ways to go about it); but should you really? It doesn't seem to be serving any purpose. Anyways, if admins undeleting is too slow for you, I gave you the entire page's content up in my first comment so there's nothing stopping you from re-creating it. --maru (talk) contribs 02:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Title

Template:Title was moved to User:SushiGeek/Title per a discussion on templates for deletion. I've changed your user page to reflect this. --SushiGeek 15:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yo, isn't that messed up they deleted tempalte:title? the replacement looks real gay on my browser (& default skin I guess?). how's it look from yer view? --McKzz Fizzer 17:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks horrible. I've commented it out until this is fixed. --maru (talk) contribs 02:00, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Special pages talk

Please have a look at Special:Undelete/Wikipedia:Special:Deadendpages. --Docu

As I understood it, cross-namespace redirects are deprecated. And what's with your sig? It was broken. --maru (talk) contribs 23:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Question....

Would I ever have a chance to be an admin.? Since of course a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.... my account was hacked. I've had no problems since then. But I don't don't know.... --Mahogany 18:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you kept it unhacked, but honestly, I doubt you have much of a chance- you exude an aroma of unstable kookishness, if you know what I mean; a certain sense that while you mean well, you shouldn't be trusted with adminship. (Or at least, that's what the RFA voters in general would say, based on my past familiarity with that page). --maru (talk) contribs 23:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars AfDs

I decided to close the ones that were pretty much obvious (since they are all outdated). I didn't close the ones that were really close (the closest was devices, which I userfied). Some of them I even closed opposite my votes — I agree, it's even a little bold to close obvious ones, but I don't think it was out of line, per se. — Deckill e r 01:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you're sure. --maru (talk) contribs 14:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop fixing my double redirect

Hi,
Earlier this year, I decided to keep a double redirect in my pocket. The trouble is that people keep fixing it. Could you have your robot whitelist it? I've placed your talk page on my watchlist, so you may reply right here, to keep the discussion all in one place. --Smack (talk) 05:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Because as far as I can tell, such a page is merely willful foolishness. --maru (talk) contribs 14:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It actually has a purpose. I first created that page for this discussion. Furthermore, last I checked, it was considered poor Wikiquette to mess with other people's user pages. --Smack (talk) 03:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mm. Seems pretty pointless- if someone wanted to test for themselves that double redirects don't work, then they can easily manufacture one. No need to keep one around; smacks of POINT. And fixing a useless double redirect in your userspace (not your userpage) hardly seems a violation of Wikiquette to me- fixing things is good. --maru (talk) contribs 03:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a useful prop to a discussion that already happened; when you "fix" it, it breaks a link. And, since it doesn't disrupt anything, you can't invoke WP:DISRUPT except as a vague menace. As for the distinction between user pages and user subpages, do you really mean to suggest that I turn my actual user page into a double redirect? --Smack (talk) 04:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Star Wars newsletter

Project updates
Greetings, Star Wars editors! Deckiller here. It's the first edition of the WikiProject Star Wars newsletter, and yes, it's a semi-ripoff of the Esperenza newsletter. I think it's important to begin with some good news: Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones, Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and Jabba the Hutt have reached featured article status! Kudos to the editors who helped obtain these achievements! WikiProject Star Wars is also on a mission to improve Star Wars articles using the following ideas: An out of universe perspective versus an in universe perspective (see Wikipedia:Writing about fiction and the future ammendments to our manual of style) Evolving lists into regular articles Moving excess information and specifics to Wookieepedia (and providing links to Wookieepedia per the "see also" and/or "external links" sections) Enhanced communication amongst WikiProject members More to come These should provide the basic steps needed to improve and "encyclopedia-fy" the Star Wars series of articles.
Things to do
There are plenty of Wikipedia:WikiProject Star Wars/things to do. An update to the page is coming very soon, and it will represent the new and exciting changes that Star Wars pages will be receiving!
Out-of-universe versus in-universe perspectives
Although details are forthcoming, I would like to take this time to explain the gist of this concept. Wikipedia has generally agreed that fictional articles should write about the topic from a "real world" perspective, focusing on real world issues and topics, with a section or two for plot synopsis and so on. Jabba the Hutt is a solid character example, and Clone Wars (Star Wars) is quickly moving toward an out of universe perspective.

Article evolution

As many of you know, lists of minor Star Wars-related themes are very common on Wikipedia; however, since these may be seen as violations of Wikipedia policy (and having seperate articles would breach even more policies), the tentative solution is to create general articles on a list's topic (for example, turning List of Star Wars devices into Technology of Star Wars, which allows us to cover everything from hyperspace to comlinks in a general encyclopedic fashion). This can be very tough for some broad topics, so the key is organization. I encourage all editors to list their ideas on the WikiProject talk page. It will be a very difficult — but tangible — effort.

For an example, let me point you to the Final Fantasy WikiProject. Some of us over at that WikiProject decided to turn various components of Final Fantasy X, such as Pyreflies, Yevon, and the backstory — into an article describing the world of Spira. Location descriptions were given a List of locations in Spira article, and the details themselves were placed on the Spira (Final Fantasy X) page. This is a decent template to follow — however, we will need to place priority on out-of-universe, "real life" topics and perspectives in realtion to the article.

Sounds confusing, eh? It won't, for examples will be popping up left and right in the near future!

Signed...

— Deckill e r 03:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I meant that the lists would serve as the middle step toward being turned into actual general articles with an overview to prevent deletion. — Deckill e r 04:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like, we had the List of Star Wars devices (which has been userfied to User:Deckiller/Star Wars devices. We can churn all that information into a Technology of Star Wars article to describe the various aspects of technology (a heading for communications for things like comlinks and whatnot). Then, we can also use this to describe the development, significance, parallels, and so on. It's like what the Final Fantasy WikiProject and the people on the fiction policy pages have been working on. — Deckill e r 04:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I am too pessimistic, but copying FF WP seems unrealistic- such compilations seem impossibly demanding of sources and information, or shot through with OR and thus vulnerable. --maru (talk) contribs 04:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to try it out in my userspace with Mipadi and perhaps a couple others and see how it goes with a technology section before even considering moving it into the Wikipedia namespace (or advancing it outside of the proposal/trial stage). I mean, this all sounds like a grand plan, but I do agree that it will be very difficult (hence why Star Wars is handled as it currently is). Naturally, there will be links to the sub-articles of various topics (droids, blasters/lightsabers/vibroweapons, etc). — Deckill e r 04:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Robot interwiki standardization

This bot looks to have some small troubles with alphabetical order of interwikis, placing ru before fi here and ja between nl and no here. You might want to check this. --Denniss 00:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea why those errors are occurring (but I've fixed those two, anyway). For what's it worth, I've filed a bug report. --maru (talk) contribs 00:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Apparently that's the right thing- alphabetizing by the language name, not language code. Go figure. --maru (talk) contribs 14:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing whitespace ...

Hi there, I have a couple of concerns regarding your recent edits. For one: You're leaving an edit summary that indicates you're a bot; however, your username and userpage do not indicate you're a bot. If you've not already, I'd like to ask that you go to WP:BOTREQ and request permission to run your bot. Secondly, many of your edits have been simply nothing more than removing/adding invisible whitespace, which you really should not do. (For example, [3] [4] [5]) Anyway, until these concerns can be addressed, I'd like to ask that you refrain from running your bot. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 05:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've now blocked this account as you've been unresponsive to my above query. You should not run bots from main accounts (certainly not from admin accounts), should not have it simply removing/adding whitespace, and you need to go through bot approvals like everyone else. Please email me or add {{unblock}} to have the block removed--do not unblock yourself. Thanks. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On another note, bots should only edit at a rate of about two edits per minute until it is granted a bot flag, unless the approvals group decides otherwise. AmiDaniel (talk) 06:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not run bots on this account again, you have been warned multiple times. Particularly "robot interwiki standardization" more often than not just moves whitespace. Martin 11:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong with just moving whitespace? I find whitespace edits can make the source look a lot nicer. --maru (talk) contribs 14:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please get permission before running bots, which you are doing again without asking, and at least run it on a separate account, as you have already been asked to do. Martin 21:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My un-selflinking is done through a semi-automated bot; semi-automated activities are perfectly licit. And there is no point to a separate account. --maru (talk) contribs 21:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you very much for making my time in Wikipedia super. I have decided to leave and I don't think I will be back. Thank you again for helping me and making my time in Wikipedia super. Best Regards, ForestH2 t/c 23:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's really too bad. Good luck in your future hobbies; if you aren't soured on the whole idea of volunteer collaboration over the Internet, have you considered the Distributed Proofreaders project? I did a little work there before moving on to Everything2 (and then Wikipedia), and I enjoyed it. --maru (talk) contribs 00:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Belldandy

In the light of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Moby Dick/Proposed decision, you might want to review history of the page. While the arbitration case isn't closed, I thought you might want to comment about the issue either at the talk page of the arbitration case or on the articles talk page. --Cat out 17:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks well in hand, so no need for me. --maru (talk) contribs 14:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fossores etc- bravo

My congratulations: finally (I hpe it isn't a weird coincidence) a bot who doesn't blindly short-cut whatever redirects but actualy targets the right section. A treat for the content contributor! Fastifex 11:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, thank the pywikipedia devs. I am merely a user. --maru (talk) contribs 14:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Robot removing selflinks

When you remove selflinks in the designation sequence for planes then you break the autoboldening of the link (see Fairey Swordfish for instance). Would you mind tempering your robot so that it either avoids these self links, or at leasts emboldens them before moving on. Thank you. GraemeLeggett 12:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why are these sequences abusing internal links to create bolding in the first place? --maru (talk) contribs 12:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Myg0t on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Myg0t. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. --LifeEnemy 18:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

? What DRV? The one that closed as keep-deleted? (You're kinda late to the party then). --maru (talk) contribs 23:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ROTEW

I assure you, I had no idea it was false information. If so, why does SuperShadow remain online? It is quite an insult to Star Wars fans everywhere. But if you feel you must talk down to a new user such as myself in such a manner, then block me. You had no right to speak to me in such a manner. Especially before seriously consulting me. Wikipedia is for all. Block me if you wish, but these are my views. Thank you. PS I agree with the top comment. You are abusing the power given to you. You're taking things too seriously! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ROTEW (talk • contribs)

SS stays up because those with legal standing to sue and take it down, don't. I take people adding known false information to Wikipedia very seriously. We have enough to do without such problems; believe me, if you had to deal with SS vandalism on a near daily basis for years, you would begin to lose your patience. And I don't see how a warning is abusing the power given to me. --maru (talk) contribs 13:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse of power

Has anyone else noticed that this guy uses his blocking power and abuses it? I've seen several threats he's made to people when they are making healthy contributions. He did so to me, but it was rightly so as I was misinformed, but I'm refering to other people who did not deserve that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by lani12 (talk • contribs)

I believe all my warnings are prefectly valid. And my talk page is for talking to me, not about me. --maru (talk) contribs 13:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not all your reason's are valid, and you are extremely hated by most people for your continued abuse of admin abilities. Don't believe me, see above where they constantly ask you to stop using that god-dammed bot of yours but you didn't until you were blocked.

Forget it!

Why do you find it your duty to inform others this? You take Wikipedia too seriously! I'm not going to argue with you. I'll leave you to bask in your own greatness.

Canon

It's a tough subject to find boundaries on; I just tried to clarify it on the project page. — Deckill e r 03:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]