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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Piotrus (talk | contribs) at 15:22, 21 July 2006 (Proposed changes). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

i would like to start some ideas here on some issues in todays world. >> maybe war?

Cleanup request

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This category has too many articles; they need to be sorted into new subcategories. -- Beland 23:03, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. See Talk:Sociology#Category_cleanup.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sub categories

Is it usual for sub catgeories to be spread across different pages by the letters of listed articles below rather than being in their own list? It makes it very hard to understand what subcategories there are. Also is there any way of putting an alphabet listing the pages so you can jump to articles starting with S or something? JenLouise 00:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want all subcategories to be forced to be on the first page on Cat:Sociology, you need to edit them to the following form: [[Category:Whatever| ]]. Similarly if you want an article on, let's say, structural functionalism, to be listed not at s but at f in a given category, you would edit it to say [[Category:Whatever|F]]. As for alphabet listing of cats, I think you mean something like {{compactTOC}}? I am not sure if this can be done, perhaps you should ask at Wikipedia:Categories.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are people likely to have problems with me moving all the subcategories to the first page? To me it just makes much more sense to be able to see all of the subcategories immediately. Especially once our subcategories are systematic. JenLouise 01:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't disagree with that.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 15:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed changes

These are my proposed changes. Please feel free to add comments if you disagree, or if you think that they obviously belong in the categories I've proposed, then think about moving them. This is obviously just the beginning, but it will move a substantial amount of articles out of the general Sociology category and help with clean up. Once this is done I think we need to look at the existing subcategories that aren't mentioned below and try and make them more systematic. Then we can look at adding new subcategories for the remaining articles. (For history on this see the discussion at: Talk:Sociology#Category_cleanup.) JenLouise 01:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


In terms of existing subcategories, some of them need to be made a subcategory of the Branches of Sociology category:

  • Feminism (done)
  • Holism (done)
  • Marxism (done)
  • Sociobiology (done)


Then obviously there are a huge number of pages that need to be moved into the Branches of Sociology category:


And Branches of Sociology could include an Interdisciplinary branches subcat, with the following:


If we get a Methodological/research methods category, the following should be in it:


These articles should not be in category at all:


Under a cateogry of Sociological Theories to begin with you could have:


And Sociological terms (as distinct from sociological concepts) would include:


In a Sociological Associations category you would have:


And belonging in the Journals category is:


Sounds good, let's start cleaning this up. However I am not happy with the 'Sociological Organisation' name (aren't all organizations sociological?). Perhaps 'Organizations of sociologists' or 'Sociological associations' or 'Sociological research organizations' would be better...--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Associations was the word I was looking for. I have changed it above. And perhaps it should be Sociological Associations and Journals, considering the only article on a journal, is the journal of an association listed. And sociology journals are usually put out by sociology associations. JenLouise 05:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]