Talk:Global city/Archive 2

What is happening here is exactly what was expected. Everyone is now adding their own favourite cities to this list. After all on a list like this there is always a city just below the cut-off line, so why should it not be included?

If you go and look at Category:World cities you will find all sorts of other cities. Should Jerusalme be here? And if Jerusalem why not Cairo? And if Cairo why not Mecca? And if Mecca why not Nairobi? And if Nairobi why not Dar es Salaam? And so on for ever.

I believe that this article is inherently POV and should be removed. DJ Clayworth 13:46, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

How about we leave Tokyo, London, Paris, and New York--which, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe are for most people beyond dispute--and not have a list of other cities at all? The main body of the article, without the list, is useful. K. Gibson

I support the addition of San Francisco to the list. It may not have an enormous population or have hosted the olympics, but it certainly has the rest of the qualities, and sometimes to a larger degree. If not considered a world city, than it atleast deserves mention as a good god damn candidate for being one in the future, pending population growth and olympics status. - Augur

I?d keep the list as it was before. The article gives clear, relatively objective criteria for what is a ?world class city? The list that I saw here about a month or to ago (August 2004) previously seems to be an accurate listing of the few dozen cities in the world that really meet this criteria. In the example above, Cairo, Mecca and Jerusalem meet the criteria and I added them to the list; Nairobi does not meet a couple of the tests (base for international financial institutions, major international airport, and international cultural facilities) and other cities, less so. This is not to say that Nairobi and Dar es Salaam, aren?t great cities ? but it would be fair to say they are more regional than world centers. As to not offend people?s sensibilities I thought describing the lists as ?candidate cities? make sense (JoeConsumer 10/08/04).

I've added four more cities to the "prinicipal candidates" list since many of Asia's largest cities are underrepresented and Brussels' position as the headquarters of many international organizations is enough to be acknowledged as an international city. The Asian cities is question are Seoul, Beijing, and Shanghai; all cities on or near the Yellow Sea, as you might notice, but the main reason I chose them as the Asian world cities is the fact that all of them are equal to Tokyo's size and population, and all occupy important positions in the world's economy and culture.

OK, I?m beginning to see how touchy of a topic this can be. Here?s what I did. I reverted back the article text so it now reads that New York, London, Paris & Tokyo are the traditional *western selection*. After that, the text acknowledges that yes, there is some subjectivity to this, and a person?s geographical / cultural background will determine what their list is. I agree that Pac Rim person (including me) would likely add Seoul, Beijing and Shanghai to their list, the other examples remain. I?ve eliminated the principal candidate category, to be as objective as possible I broken the ?candidates? list by down continent and alphabetical order ? there is no other ranking. I?ve added the line at the top of this list, stating that the cities below are generally believed to meet all of the criteria above. I also strengthened the criteria so that candidates (a) must be the center of a metro area with a million persons plus (b) have an international airport that is a major hub for international carriers (c) must have a name and cultural institutions that are world renown. I sincerely hope this established a more objective basis for this page that favors no region or culture (JoeConsumer 10/08/04)

I added "or most" to the candidate cities' description. Not all of the requirements are met, most often the olympic host status, though that is rather insignificant. Why is that even included as a mandatory requirement for World City status? It should be an optional thing, nothing special or major. - Augur

Cultural geography

World city is an actual term in cultural geography.

If there's an authoritative definition from an academic discipline, one or more definitions with references could be helpful here. ishu 04:46, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)