Talk:Nitration

Too specific

This article seems to specific in only discussing the nitration of aromatic compounds. Nitration can be performed on other molecules, such as alcohols. For example, the nitroglycerin page describes its synthesis as the nitration of glycerin.--24.16.148.75 21:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

totally agree with your comment, nitration is much more than just aromatic nitration. I made a first effort to make the article more general. Thanks for your kind intervention V8rik 22:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the Aromatic nitration section could be improved slightly by mentioning activating and de-activating ring substitutents wrt selectivity?GreatMizuti 13:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- great idea, go ahead with it! V8rik 19:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, while I was just making a suggest I went ahead and tried my hand at doing an edit. I've discovered a few things; it's one thing to stand in front of a group of people with a whiteboard and pontificate on the subject but it's an entirely different thing to try and type out a viable explanation, no wonder so few people write textbooks, and that listing substituent groups is somewhat pointless, perhaps that section should just be ommitted in favour of a summary? Although anyone who isn't familiar with the terminology could be a bit baffled by anything less. I'm also thinking I should do a few diagrams. GreatMizuti 14:35, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

one of the nice things in Wiki that many concepts have already been introduced, for example we already have activating group, deactivating group and the general article on electrophilic aromatic substitution so you only have to explain how these concepts affect nitration and not explain them again. Also in your edit most other concepts also have pages so you can link to them V8rik 16:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at those pages and noticed something about them both, they're stubs! They lack detail, accuracy (sorta) and depth! I mean, surely you can't imply that that's anything near a comprehensive list of activating/deactivating groups epecially since inductive effects are easily translated across conjugated system, oh and the absence of diagrams. Those articles are going on to my to-do list! (I need some practise using ISIS draw)GreatMizuti 12:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]