User talk:Mav

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If you've been frequenting the RecentChanges page, you might already expect that I am a Wikipediholic -- yep, I admit it (score = 82).
Problem now is, sleeping has switched from a full (i.e. normal) to part time occupation.... oh well - you only live once, there's plenty of time to rest later...

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Hi Mav, after the long discussion that went on over weeks about naming conventions for royalty, I distilled the various observations and ideas together and (finally) got a chance to put them into the naming convention page. I'd be very interested in hearing your observations. Do you see any problems with the final suggestions? (I also included one or two other points that didn't so much come from that discussion as from others on related topics that seemed to produce a consensus there to. JTD 05:55 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)

PS: I seem to be alone in not getting an 'apology' like that above from Vera Cruz. I'm beginning to feel left out. *smile* If I wasn't so niaive, I'd call it an all out lobbying offensive. Vera, the Colin Powell of Wikipedia. (With DW as Saddam???) JTD 05:55 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)

Looks good to me. --mav

Hmm, I didn't get one :( But Mav, I owe you one for biting your head off on Talk:Main page the other day. I've been cranky (OK, crankier) lately -- sorry -- Tarquin 17:53 Feb 1, 2003 (UTC)

It's alright. I get cranky too - often sometimes. ;) --mav

have you done taht new image of the periodic table for the map? -fonzy

Not yet. I had planned to work on it first thing this morning (several hours ago) but have been distracted by current events. --mav

ok, i wasted your time by answering that and wasteing more time by making you read this :-). I would do it for you but not quite shore what you want. -fonzy

No time wasted. It was a perfectly valid question and did in fact remind me about the promise I made to you. I will get to work on the image soon - I need to get my mind off the space shuttle right now anyway. --mav

ok but what do you think about putting ununennium and unbinilium in it? As we know wher etehy will fit and there are articles on them in wikipedia. -fonzy

Since a main part of the images' job is to facilitate navigation and act as a locator map, I see no reason why we shouldn't also have images for undiscovered elements. We could not have crystal structures or the number of protons since this information is not known but we should be able to display the predicted shell and Lewis dot structures of the elements along with the number of protons. --mav

mav, go ahead and work on February 2. I wasn't planning on doing anything with it till tomorrow. -- Zoe

Sure thing. --mav

Hello!Yes,l like the place very much and l've started spending more&more of my time here;l have a question though-l uploaded an image,but it seems impossible for me to place it where l want, pls help. Braniac

Mav, was Vera banned or not? No-one seems to know. As our 'Master of the Universe', I presume that you should know the answer. Thanks, BTW, for your comments on the famine talk page. They were much appreciated. JTD 03:14 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

Yep Vera was banned but he apologized on the main mailing list and two people asked that Vera be allowed to get another chance. Jimbo, of course, will have the final say but I'm pretty sure he will allow Lir/Vera back on a probational basis. All I know is that Adam Rinkleff (Lir/Vera's real name) has noticeably improved his attitude since he first joined Wikipedia (he was a monster before being banned the first time, then a very annoying pest before the second banning). IMO he still is a pain in the ass that needs to improve more but when I at least see improvement and what looks like a desire to try to change I am a bit of a softy. Adam is young too so there is an inherent maturity factor that needs to be considered.

Not a problem about the famine comments - like I said I tell it as I see it (of course according to Two16 that means I shoot from the hip - but so be it). I was glad to see 172 speak in your defense too (another user whose NPOV and interpersonal skills have greatly improved since he first joined). --mav

Aha, success! Thanks for sorting out that STS-107 page. It was going crazy on my computer screen... -- Oliver P. 04:04 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

No problemo. --mav

I noticed you removed the entry I inserted for January 22 regarding Wikipedia being slashdotted. The article for Slashdot effect has a reference to two dates, July 26 and January 22, and July 26 notes being slashdotted. For the purpose of symmetry, both dates should either reference the event or not. Goatasaur 07:43 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

Hm. I didn't know about the July 26 ref. The reason why I deleted the ref on the Jan 22 article is that Wikipedia getting Slashdotted is not an event notable enough to history to warrent a reference. I'll fix the July 26 article. --mav

I thought you agreed to adding 119 and 120. Past that is only predictions where elements go. - fonzy

No I don't recall that at all. --mav

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ok but what do you think about putting ununennium and unbinilium in it? As we know wher etehy will fit and there are articles on them in wikipedia. -fonzy

Since a main part of the images' job is to facilitate navigation and act as a locator map, I see no reason why we shouldn't also have images for undiscovered elements. We could not have crystal structures or the number of protons since this information is not known but we should be able to display the predicted shell and Lewis dot structures of the elements along with the number of protons. --mav

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My bad - all those un* names confuse the hell out of me. I thought you were talking making images for undiscovered elements already on the standard perio table. This makes sense for navigation of the table and doesn't add anything non-standard or ugly to the images. In short; it doesn't hurt to go to 118 but anything more than that doesn't make sense from a design perspective and combined with a science perspective you might as well at that point go all the way to 200. --mav

No, as we dont know how, it goes odd past 120 as G-block filling and there are hundreads of predictions of how the tabel will look like. - fonzy

Hm. I wasn't really aware of that. But the fact still remains that 1) the elements are not known to science so people are not expecting anything to be there and 2) they don't make obvious holes in the table that can any good designer would want to fill. The pre-118 undiscovered elements simply ride along with the rest of the table because they already fit in it nicely. --mav

Hi, What is the Wikikarma stuff you add at the end of your messages to the mailing lists? --User:AstroNomer

In response to a huge flood of emails sent to the mailing list a while back Axel Boldt proposed that every message posted should be "paid for" by a non-minor contribution to Wikipedia. Of course this is just a 'rule to consider' and is not binding but I for one was very frustrated that I was spending nearly all my Wikipedia time on the mailing list instead of actually doing what I really wanted to do -- help build the encyclopedia itself. So now I self-limit my posts to wikien-l and wikipedia-l by making sure each post is 'paid for' by a corresponding non-minor contribution - thus balance is maintained and I earn positive Karma. --mav

Hi Mav, would you please do me a huge favour - take a lot at my last and penultimate edits to Meteora and tell me what you think about the photo size. I have read the guidelines but I just can't translate them into what I think is a sensible size, in terms of large enough to see but not to overpower. Helpppp!!!! Thanks, Nevilley 22:53 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

The photo is a very nice size. Great work! --mav 22:57 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks - so that smallish size is usually OK, yes? And you've aligned it nicely, thanks very much! Nevilley 23:02 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Erkkk! Except I've just realised I don't know how to get the caption in now - would you terribly mind extending the tutorial to the point of sticking a caption in - anything will do - so I can see how you have got it into the "div" markup thingy?? Sorry to be a nuisance but it would save me hours of wiki-damaging experimentation! :) Nevilley 23:05 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Nevilley 23:41 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

hmph! Have a look now, it is a right old Horlicks (or dog's breakfast if you prefer) since I tried to get a 2nd image in. I have gone to bed in a rage! If you'd like to show me what needs doing, then great. Otherwise I will try again tomorrow. Gah! :) Nevilley 23:46 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

People have different preferences regarding image sizes. The best thing to do in the current setup is to upload both a small and a large version. You can link to the large version using the [[Media:Pompeii_Fresco_01.jpg|larger version]] format. Pretty soon we plan to have support for [[Image:Pompeii_Fresco_01.jpg width=400]], where the displayed image will be automatically scaled down to the specified width, and a click on it leads to the full size version. --Eloquence 23:52 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words, mav. I'd start thanking you for all the things you do around here, but we only have so much storage space... -- Stephen Gilbert 20:24 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

I call things as I see them. Thanks for tour words of encouragement too. :-) --mav

Thanks for the pointer to the state template and the kind words -- User:sfmontyo

No problemo. :) --mav

Would it be too much to ask that when you modify a date article, correct the spanish link to the one being actually used in the spanish wikipedia? It is inserting a "de" and lowercasing the month. I've been doing it to, but intermitently.--AN

Oh sure. I'm glad you reminded me. I am planning on adding events to each day of the year but I'm doing this on a day-by-day basis. --mav

Hi, I am a litle confused by what is going on in the sandbox (including what was, as best I can tell, your latest edit). Can you help unconfuse me? Slrubenstein

It's the sandbox - I was just messing around with restoring an older version that had more examples of formatting in it. I have no idea what the white text box is for. --mav

Thanks... Slrubenstein

Hi Mav, just back after a few days break! When you get a chance, could you look at Humbert II of Italy. There is a bit of a dispute on over whether to mention Humbert's bisexuality. I believe it is important because it swayed the Vatican into becoming relatively neutral in the referendum on the Italian monarchy's future; had it supported the Crown, the odds are that the monarchy that lost by a hair's breath, would have won in 1946. However Gianfranco is absolutely opposed to any mention of the King's orientation, even though it is well documented, preferring to leave it at how Humbert and his wife separated after the defeat in the referendum, which as I keep having to tell him is missing the whole point. I'd certainly welcome your views, and also whether the article needs to be NPOVed. I've explained my justification on the talk page. Slán. (gaelic for goodbye!) JT (opps, nearly signed my own name. Now that would be letting the cat out of the proverbial bag!)

Oh, almost forgot. The abortion page is too big for me to enter now (bold, bold browser!) but some days ago I entered a clarifying footnote explaining how abortion though now legal throughout most of the UK, as it is still restricted in Northern Ireland. I don't if it was me or someone else, but that footnote talks of how anti-abortion people in N-Irl have frustrated attempts of pro-choice campaigners in Britain from changing the law in N-Irl. Frustrated in retrospect seems too POV a word, as it implies one side is right. Could you change that to 'halted', a more NPOV word? If the article is too big to be accessed by my browser, it may mean it is too big even to be read by some people, so it may need a reduction in size, or 'daughtering' (creating daughter articles containing some of the info.) You see, I've now created a whole new Wiki word - lets 'daughter' an article!!! Thanks in anticipation. JTD 02:24 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC) PS: your page now may need 'daughtering' now. Me and my long messages!

Sure I'll take a look at the article. But I'm at work right now so it'll have to be later. --mav

Hey mav, what's the story with special:specialpages. It seems no matter what time I've tried to view the other links from that page, I get function disabled. Also what happened to the article counter at the bottom? I miss it. I hate to bug you with questions like those, but I have not been able to find the answers easily anywhere else. B

No bother at all. Answer is on your talk page. --mav

Thx. "Dumb" counters not as useful?..ok, I appreciate that. I understand that the specialpages are only temporarily disabled at certain times, but as I implied, I can't ever seem to access them. The message says they are on between 2 and 14 UTC (which would be 10pm CST to 10am CST for me if I read that right). But I've tried at 9am CST, 3pm CST, 11pm CST, 2am CST...etc. It always seems to be disabled... B

OIC... I'll try to reproduce the bug then. --mav

Hey, mav, how was your week? Any ups and down? (And I don't just mean sea level ;-)

BTW, your talk page is getting long: time for a wiki-haircut, eh? Ah, with friends like me who needs enemies, right? Well, have a good weekend!! --Uncle Ed

My week has been good. Have a good weekend. Point taken about the 'haircut'. :-) --mav

Oh no! Two16 has just 'slapped' me with a white glove! (his words!) Now I know who he is. He's Michael Jackson!! I'll never be able to watch Thriller again without imagining Two16 crawling out of one of the graves, no doubt spouting bad poetry and talking about SV lockout rule!!! Aaaaaagh! :-) JTD 06:31 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)

ROFL. -Stevert

Mav, I have a feeling it might be very useful if you took a look at Woman and determined if a page-lock/user block/kind diplomatic words for which you as Wikiambassador are so famed, would help the situation? --_Someone else 08:23 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)

On it. --mav

troubles Mav or are you managing ? ant

What I need is a developer to block the vandal's IP. Thanks for asking though - I'll manage. --mav

ok, if needed, I'm around

I think I'm getting in the way with redundant rollbacks, and it's bedtime anyway, so I'm going to quit for the night. Good luck keeping this idiot busy until he quits too. Bryan

Heh. This is addictive. :) Bryan

Hopefully his mum will send him to bed soon anyway... quercus robur 11:37 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)

LOL. --mav

Thanks for the rv, dude. Couldn't sysops be taught how to block IP addresses? Is it a difficult process? olivier 12:01 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)

I know how to block IP address. I do not have developer access so I can't find out the IP of a logged-in user though. Wiki will heal. --mav

OK OK thanks for the clarification and for the healing! olivier 12:08 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Maveric, thanks for vadalism reverts. I´m afraid your script is sometimes restoring the vandalism instead of the article (concurrent reverts by someone else?). This person is really annoying. Again, thanks. Kosebamse 12:22 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)

Yes I know about the double revert problem. :( See User talk:Ducker.

Is everything settled down now with this Annetit creep? This is the first time we've had a pure simple vandal use login. *Sigh*. All bad things have to happen eventually, I guess.

I can try to figure out the ip number if you like, but I'm not the most clueful person to do it. --Jimbo Wales

I stopped counting at 20 different user names. Each time I start reverting like mad using the rollback feature he jumps to a new account. He is still very active but the rank and file are now reverting the guy faster than I an using the rollback feature. WikiImmunity at its best. :-)--mav

I'm going for the ip number now, then. Jimbo Wales

Thanks for fixing the Mount Washington article. I guess vandals are just weird. Somehow, replacing an article with "Sam Smith is a fat pig" or something like that makes more sense than removing two innocuous paras from the middle of an innocuous article about a mountain. I'm impressed that you caught it, too. I'm so bogged down with my watchlist that I hardly ever see Recent Changes any more, and here you are, fighting it out on 40 fronts at once. Thanks again. Ortolan88 15:02 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)

El placer es mio :) I'm tired - I was helping fight that vandal for 4 hours. --mav

Seems like you had a busy time this morning. You should go grab a beer or something! Well done. Mintguy

Thanx. I thought I saw you revert a few too... Ah hell I need to grab a pillow. --mav

No I just got here. Looks like I missed all the "excitement" Mintguy

Frankly mav you should go take a close look at my words that means READING THEM. LoL @ you. Two16

Two16

I have better things to do other than read the rantings of lunatics. --mav

Mav: you live in a glass house stop throwing ad hominuim attacks.Still laughing outloud @ you. I've cut and pasted from the wikipedia FAQs all the relevant breeches of Wikipedian Ethos committed in Irish Potato Famine on my userpage. When I wanted to know what you were about I read every post your user history. I won't simply call you names, moron: I'll bring every piece of writing and contextualize them so that no one who can actually think (as opposed to use words) will giggle at the height of your hubris. You look like a fool to any one who thinks! Miserable prat! Even now, I'm still LOL. Two16

Whatever. Laugh maniacally. You are among the very small group of people who think ill of me. You were talking to a brick wall before on the vandal's page. That person never had any intention of ever using that page for a valid purpose. All I did was *humorously* point this out - I did not intend to hurt your fragile ego by pointing out the stupidly obvious. Who is the moron now? --mav

Well at least Two16 has learned to spell 'moron' which means there is hope yet for our strange strange friend! (He used to write 'maroon'!) Keep up the good work. As one of the 99% who appreciate your work - and one of the 99.9% who hope that the medical profession can find something to 'cure' our Two16 'friend'! If you get a chance, could you look at the name conventions talk page. There is a minor problem in our current policy of not using 'lord' and 'lady' titles when it comes to someone (eg, Lord John Russell) who is known exclusively by that version and is completely unrecognisable as merely John Russell. I've proposed a possble solution. I also replaced the points by numbers on the naming convention page; it is easier to say 'look at point 3' when dealing with a controversy, rather than saying 'somewhere on the page is the relevant rule'. Do you approve of the change? JTD 03:15 Feb 9, 2003 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it in a bit. --mav

Hi, mav, Just wanted to drop you a note of gratitude for your efforts last night and of apology for getting you mixed up in it all. Whatever accountant is charge of Wikikarma will have to sharpen a few pencils to keep track of your positive balance. -- Someone else 03:51 Feb 9, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. You did exactly the right thing though - it was just unfortunate that the software doesn't yet allow Admins to ban logged-in vandals. BTW, after a while the non-admin users were reverting the vandal so fast that I didn't have too much to do. --mav

Hey - it's like finding a dead wildebeast in the veldt: you Lions of Administration are obliged to leave a few scraps of karma for us Jackals of the Rank and File to feed on. Tannin (PS. Care to take a look at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (aircraft) when you get a chance? It needs work.)

LOL Yep you guys fought me off off of that carcass once I got my fill. :-) I have some daily WikiChores to do but as soon as I'm done I'll take a look at the naming convention pages. --mav

Hey Mav whats up? Dude Im happy today, I took a trip on a Double Decker , they brought one specially from London to Phoenix, and I didnt know they had. Anyways, I went to the fair and I was able to take a ride on it..LOL

Just needed to share that piece of happiness.

Now, down to business as they say..LOL

I was thinking a long time ago that maybe Wikipedia should establish a Hall of Fame page, in recognition of the ones who have worked hard to make this page what it is. I told Engels, but he never answered. I think it would be nice to have like a Hall of Fame sort of thing for people who have surpassed...10,000 articles, for example.

Just wondering what you thought about that

Hope to talk to you soon!

Sincerely yours, AntonioMartin

Thank you for sharing you happiness. :) There is already a most active users page at Wikipedia:Most active Wikipedians. You are number 49 BTW. --mav

I replied to your question on my talk page Sebastian again Sebastian 21:23 Feb 9, 2003 (UTC)