Talk:Muslims
Religious scripture is always open to intepretation, so I doubt it's possible to present a NPOV, but I have reservations about this statement
One of the tenets of Islam is that all mankind is one, so Muslims do not reject inter-racial marriage.
The conclusion doesn't strike me as a NPOV irrespective of its truth value. -- Gyan
- I don't follow. Are you saying that you don't think it is NPOV to say "Muslims do not reject interracial marriage", or you don't think it is neutral to say "Islam says all mankind is one, and that is why Muslims do not reject interracial marriage"? Graft
The first alternative. -- Gyan
Maybe if someone puts 'Many Muslims do not reject inter-racial marriage' that would leave it as a subject that is open to debate, and neutral. But thats just an idea.
Now to my question, which are the Muslims who let their beard grow?
- Debate isn't really possible on the subject; the Prophet encouraged one of his dearest disciples, the black ex-slave Zayd, to marry Zaynab, a woman of the noblest "white" Arab extraction. However, it is certainly possible that Muslims might ignore the religious perspective on this, so I suggest making it "No orthodox Muslims have religious objections to inter-racial marriage." 67.164.10.115 06:23, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Re inter-racial marriage, the "all mankind is one" bit is pretty orthodox Muslim belief.
Muslims consider Muhammad and Jesus ("Isa") both to have been men.
I think that this needs some clarification. Is this men as opposed to women, or men as opposed to some kind of god? -- bdesham
Men, as opposed to gods
I think this encyclopedia entry is very confusing with "radical" etc. labels inserted needlessly
- Yes, there are good articles on Islamic fundamentalist, Islam as a political movement and militant Islam, and a stub on Islamic parties, which describe the issues in more depth. There is or was also an article on Islamism which presents a biased Wikipedia:USPOV that is only widely held in the US and Israel.
The demographic information doesn't belong here but in Islamic World.
- It's also conflicting to what the Islamic World reports. (China 133 million muslims but not on list on Muslim. I am going to remove that section since it's better suited in the Islamic World section. --Localizer
I removed the following block of text from the article: Please add information about different groups of Muslims. For example, the population distribution (second to Christians), nationality (e.g more Muslims in Asia than in middle east), culture (do Chinese muslims and Arab muslims follows the same rituals?), how do they study Quran if they are not Arabs, their view on terrorism etc... --cprompt 08:32, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Well, in the "sirah" Zayd wasn't a "black" salve ... he was kidnaped as a child from his arab tribe "Kalb" and then sold in the slave market ... he was bought by "Hakheem ibn Heazam" and gaved him to "Khadija bint Khouiled" - One of Mohammed's wives - and then she gave him to Mohammed.
And not to mention that "Zayd ibn Haritha Al-Kalbiy" was white ... but people thought that he's black because of his son's "Usama" skin color - whice was black - cause his father married a blakc ex-slave "Om Ayman" - after he divorced Zainab (who wasn't pleased of being a wife to an ex-slave altought he wasn't black) -.
All Terrorists Are Muslism
Nice way to insert pure lies in the article by quoting them as "dissenting voices." Are all terrorists Muslism? Just last week the United Liberation Front of Asam and National Democratic Front of Boroland were involved in 60+ deaths in India. What about Nagaland rebels (Christian terrorists)? All this happened only last week week. http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041004/news_1n4indianu.html And Maoist terrorists in Nepal?
Let's take Hamas and compare it with LITE. No doubt that Hamas has big support among Muslims. However, Hamas began as a welfare and charity for the Palestinian. The political/charitable arm of Hamas was officially registered and recognized within Israel in 70s and 80s, when the movement was offshoot of Muslim Brotherhood. No wonder Hamas has so many "supporters." Not all of them are terrorists.
Still, let compare it with LITE (Sri Lanka). LITE has at least 10,000 members. Moreover, LITE has probably killed 100-fold more people than Hamas. Check it out.
Not just that, even if we only count suicide bombings, LITE has carried out more suicide bombings than Hamas. http://www.spur.asn.au/News_2003_July_27.htm
"240+ suicide bombings" (so far).
That's a lot more than Hamas.
I am going to delete such pathetic attempts "quote from a Muslim" to insert lies in an articles.
I can quote some lies by a Nazi on Judaism or some Christian nut on Christianity (by disguising them as a quote). Won't change the fact that the statemnt is a lie.
I am going to delete that pure lie until someone can convince me otherwise.
- Ask a few questions
1) Do you disagree with what they say or do you deny outright that they said it? 2) If they said it then it is fact and althought your POV disagrees the reader has to decide.....thats the way of knowledge. 3) Yes you can quote a Christian nut on the Christian page but the reader has to decide. Not you. Censorship is not an option and this is not Saudi Arabia. Move along--Malbear 06:50, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)