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AAAAAAAARG!!! Fix it please!

This article is highly biased against Islam. It doesn't provide any evidence other than references to obscure authors (that might or might have not existed), and biased interpretations of selected verses of the Koran, the Holy Book.

Really? At the time you wrote this, this article was empty. So just what are you talking about? RK

I would like to remind people that the only serious references that should be used in a serious article should be the ones that are accepted by the majority of muslim scholars (a good starting point is the Al-Azhar University in Cairo). Let me just add this point to illustrate my point. It would not be serious to have a non-Jew commenting on the veracity of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in a serious encyclopedia, because it is a subject in which Jews are the first concerned, and they can easily provide clear arguments of why such a document should not be taken seriously. At the same time, regarding Islam, I would suggest to let muslim scholars deal with the subject. Thank you.

My goodness. This is the most terrible and intellectually dishonest rant I have seen this month on Wikipedia. Only Jews can contribute scholarship about Jews? Only Muslims about Muslims? And presumably on Chrisitans about Christianity, and only atheists about atheism? If we were to adopt this line of thinking, Wikipedia would be dead, and most academic journals would literally be forced to stop poublishing. What I find most distressing about your screed is that you literally provided zero examples of what you found to be errorneous, and you didn't offer a single useful suggestion for others to work with. That is trolling, and not appreciated. RK

Response to RK: My general impression is that most people who talk about Islam have no idea what they are talking about. They just put together sparse information they gather about the supposed anti-semitism of hand-picked islamic writings. My point is the following: at least muslim scholars know what they are talking about. My second point is the following: you would never find a non-Jew commenting on jewish writings, because they would definitely be considered anti-semitic. I think I have said enough on this subject. Thank you for your attention.

This is mistaken. There are plenty of non-Jews who have research on Jewish history, and have done analysis on the Jewish Bible, and even done writings on rabbinic Jewish literature. Further, these writings are not considered anti-Semitic. I own some articles on Jewish issues written by non-Jews myself, and so do some rabbis I know! RK

After Muhammed's program to convert all Jews and Christians to Islam failed, he said that "Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. Those who have faith and do righteous deeds,- they are the best of creatures." (XCVIII: The Proof: 6-7)

This conflicts with what is in people of the Book, and my own understanding. Can anyone resolve this? Martin