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Warning! Inflammatory nationalist rhetoric may be removed at any time without notification.

... the third party's weapon is not a self loading rifle but his ability without force or threats to persuade both sides to avoid violence and settle their differences by peaceful means ... - The Peacekeeper's Handbook

To be unpopular with both sides at the same time is probably the best pointer to the fact that one is performing one's duties correctly and with impartiality. - The Peacekeeper's Handbook

I archive my talk page when it gets longer than is preferable. You should too!

Stop! Engage brain! Are you looking for the Macedonian Wikipedians' notice board?

Help please

Hello Francis, please help me with this article, it's not objective and it's not civil. At least pls let me know your opinion. See Turkification. Regards. --Gokhan 16:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Does Wikipedia Have Authority?

Thanks for your comment on my essay about Wikipedia's authority [1]. I responded on my user talk page [2]. - Connelly 20:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Research Survey Request

Hello, I am a member of a research group at Palo Alto Research Center (formerly known as Xerox PARC) studying how conflicts occur and resolve on Wikipedia. Due to your experience in conflict resolution on Wikipedia (e.g., as a member of the Mediation Cabal) we’re extremely interested in your insights on this topic. We have a survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=400792384029 which we are inviting a few selected Wikipedians to participate in, and we would be extremely appreciative if you would take the time to complete it. As a token of our gratitude, we would like to present you with a PARC research star upon completion. Thank you for your time.

Parc wiki researcher 00:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
PARC User Interface Research Group

The name is a non-issue. The research result will contain anonymized information. Thank you very much for your participation! Parc wiki researcher 02:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NK

No problem (about ignoring Tabib) :). I think its best though to delete his unhelpful comments altogether (just as you have done with Fadix)--you clearly see that he is poisoning the mediation process with his accusations and attacks. And by keeping reverting you on the talk page. You don't need to allow him to do it--I urge you to stick to your decision and move his comments up--right now, it's hard to find the 3 versions that we are working on, and to respond to them. They are completely buried in the midst of Tabib's diversions.--TigranTheGreat 01:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turkification

Hi Francis. Could u please take a look in this article? Sections have been removed and tags added during the past 24 hours, without logical explanation. i cannot revert again, cause i don't wanna break the rule:p --Hectorian 01:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the info and references provided in Hamshenis are more than enough for this section to stay.... Am I wrong? --Hectorian 01:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tajik

Hi. Thank you for welcoming me in. I'll try to help improving pages on Tajik language as soon as I have a little moment. I tried to find out who were the Tajik contributors, but I did not succeed. I may not be familiar enough with the interface. FOA 12:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC).[reply]

History of NK

Hi Francis. I would like to draw your attention to what’s going on with the History of Nagorno-Karabakh article. Eupator and Tigran persistently remove the reference added by me (Circular by colonel D. I. Shuttleworth of the British Command). I believe this is a deliberate attempt to suppress information that does not suit a certain POV. I don’t think it is OK by the rules to remove legitimate references, even if someone does not like them. I got blocked despite never breaking the 3RR rule, but I think the measures should be taken to prevent the references being removed from the article without any valid explanation. There will be no reason for edit wars then.

Also, the tags are being removed from the Sumgait Massacre article, despite the fact that the same Shahmuratian is used as a primary reference, and in addition to him a well-known pro-Armenian source Caroline Cox is being used too. Despite that, certain users claim that the article is neutral. I know you must be really tired of all these disputes, but would you mind to have a look at those articles? Thanks in advance. Grandmaster 06:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know, I need to stop dragging my feet...

Ok, I finally started a rough outline of what I'm going to add to Anarchism in the United States like I said I would. It's currently quite bad, but here is the link. Tell others about it. The Ungovernable Force 07:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anarchism template

From Encarta: "Another branch of individualism was found in the United States and was far less radical. The American Benjamin Tucker (1854-1939) believed that maximum individual liberty would be assured where the free market was not hindered or controlled by the State and monopolies. The affairs of society would be governed by myriad voluntary societies and cooperatives, by, as he aptly put it, “un-terrified” Jeffersonian democrats, who believed in the least government possible. Since World War II this tradition has been reborn and modified in the United States as anarcho-capitalism or libertarianism." I think I have provided enough quotes and arguments here and on Template talk:Anarchism, which has gone a bit off-topic there now. If I do not see any coherent argument from you I'm going to change the template. Intangible 17:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where are those "Many sources" you are talking about? Intangible 18:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are you still going to respond, or not? Intangible 16:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Languages

Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 15:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC) [reply]

The Borders

Hi, this is Andy123 from IRC. How's the work on the T-shirt going on? --Nearly Headless Nick 10:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

T-shirt? What t-shirt? I think I might want one of these! The Ungovernable Force 05:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rôle vs role

Hi Francis,

I've put an explanation of why I think "role", not "rôle", is the most appropriate spelling over on the Mixed Economy talk page. El T 13:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why have you removed the link? It's not redundant you know. --Eliade 16:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the link to function. See please if it is redirecting correct. Thanks. I mean "Multumesc" for you! --Eliade 16:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, atunci prietene fii cuminte :) --Eliade 16:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Multumesc, stii tu pentru ce. Multumesc si pentru fixarea paginii. M-am chinuit vreo 10 minute cu ea. Esti tare! --Eliade 17:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Cand vrei sa vorbim online? Spune-mi :) --Eliade 17:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Multumesc si mai vb --Eliade 18:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Official request

Can you please protect my page so that is not a tool in hand of vandalisers until I solve my issues (RfC,...) with this bounch of vandals? Multumesc! --Eliade 18:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bunch of vandals, against which you'll react violently? Quite stylish...   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't push it FunkyFLOCK--Eliade 19:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fran, all the dispute is about the {{sockpuppet}} tag put by Khoikhoi, who grounded his suspicions very well at the request for checkuser page. If a version needs to be protected, it should be the one with the tag on. Todor→Bozhinov 19:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't make any new harassments, I will use them against you...--Eliade 19:17, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hahahaha! Make some up, and use them as well. Might even be more believable.   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfC against User:TodorBozhinov

Hello! I started an RfC against User:TodorBozhinov, you should come and help me, since you were involved in the dispute http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/TodorBozhinov Cheers,--Eliade 19:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop this vandle with multiple user names and IP addresses

One, or perhaps two, people have been vandalizing the Beverly Hills High School article, and using personal insults against me and others.

Some of his usernames are: CH1; The MAN; Will Beback is a Nigger Faggot; AssMan2005; Skoda's Shlong; JAveline; and many others!

Some of these users have been disciplined or blocked indefinately, but he just keeps signing on with a new username!

Some of the IP addresses he uses are: 68.46.74.45; 69.234.96.87; 69.234.138.173; 69.234.121.172; amongst others. According to http://whois.domaintools.com;

Some of these IP address are traceable to:

United States - California - Los Angeles - Rback26c.irvnca Reverse DNS: adsl-69-234-138-173.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net

and the rest are traceable to:

United States - New Jersey - Brigantine - Comcast Cable Communications Inc Reverse DNS: c-68-46-74-45.hsd1.pa.comcast.net

A few of these IP addresses have been blacklisted, for whatever reason!

If you look at the history page of Beverly Hills High School you will see that this article is plagued with personal insults in the history page (and elseware) and vandalism. Sometimes the vandalism is a bigotted or racist remark, sometimes it is pornography. Many antivandal bots and human users have reverted these vandalisms over and over again. He has vandalized many other articles as well!

But he is clearly using dynamic IP addresses. There MUST be something wikipedia can do to block this guy indefinately!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Karmak 19:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Union

Hi Francis. Any chance that you're conversant in QIF syntax? I recently converted the Template:Infobox Union over from the old "hiddenStructure" style, but I seemed to have a small problem. Now there are several lines of white-space being produced at the top of articles using the box - but I have no idea why. Would you look at it sometime when you have a moment? (Or if that's not your forte, would you know anyone that I could ask?) Cheers. Chris --Bookandcoffee 00:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for having a look. I'll ask at the 'pump. --Bookandcoffee 16:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of persecuted Turkish writers

The article wasn't deleted, as you may or may not have heard elsewhere, so I'm canvassing opinions for what to rename it to/merge it to on its relevant talk page. All reasonable suggestions will be entertained. BigHaz 10:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonism

You'll have to be more specific about what exactly is disputed and unverified, or I'll have to revert you, whenever my budget permits.   /FunkyFly.talk_  17:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your decisions to merge the sections was not discussed. Why are you doing it?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, about that nationalism thing? Your sources?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And btw, how is removing the region of Macedonia and ethnic Macedonians, replacing them with Macedonians an improvment?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So since you "did not add it", were you blindly reverting then?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The problem that I see is that you make accusations of incivility, while your majesty is allowed to curse. A role model?   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Gee whiz, I can quote you on saying "fuck" outside of your fuck the border thing. There's the blind revert, why dont you read the talk of the page? checking   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Accepted, so how about discussing changes, which you so much advocated earlier?   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So, are you going to remove the nationalists bit, or should we wait for about 24 hours and start reverting?   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, not bad. Two things, why is Bulgarian deleted from the list of languages in the beginning, and why is a stub template added at the bottom. The article is hardly a stub anymore.   /FunkyFly.talk_  19:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some edits on Macedonism.--ElevatedStork 19:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bulgarian_language&diff=67095412&oldid=67086402 ElevatedStork 19:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The source

Here it is Check art 3. Also, if you "inspect carefully the diff" you will find that there are four reverts in less than 24 hrs.   /FunkyFly.talk_  21:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And? It is a question of taste and consensus if it should be added, and I dont believe so. Turkish btw does not have any legal use in Bulgaria.   /FunkyFly.talk_  21:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes well, that's why the policy reminds "When in doubt, do not revert". There is nothing restricting the usage of a previous version. Even so, there might be a fresher one. The user was warned on at least four occasions though.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would not be so sure about the claim that Bulgaria has much more minorities percentagewise than Britain. In the 2001 census there are 16% minorities, versus about 14 in the UK.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How about the Scottish people? About 8% of the population? Jamaicans? Pakistani and so on...   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you should pose the same question for the Kurdish language in Turkey.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I dont care who asked you.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Since you nonetheless revealed it - good for you.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If this will stop you from pinging me indefinitely, I cant confirm or deny anything.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Embarassed is not the right term. More like, being political.   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:00, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A doubt

I wanted an advice from you as an expert admin: could an editor be legitimately blocked for excessive edit-warring even if he hasn't formally violated the 3RR? I know it would be a case of controversial block, but I wanted to know if it is judged a legitimate option, or something disapproved of by wikipedia rules and guidelines. Thanks for any advice you can give me. Ciao--Aldux 22:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hồ Chí Minh

Thank you for notifying me about that page. Unfortunately, I was not there at the time. I am currently reviewing the edit history. Again, thank you. --Ionius Mundus 23:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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