Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 August 2

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August 2

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:British female MPs

Delete, unnecessary subdivision, creating category clutter. These articles are all dual-categorised anyway in the parent category, so no Merge is necessary. Discriminatory: there is no Category:British male MPs and nor should there be. Mais oui! 15:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename to Category:Female members of the UK House of Commons. It is useful to have a list of female MPs who have sat in the UK Parliament, given that there have been fewer female MPs ever than there are total current MPs. It is not discriminatory as these MPs should be dual categorised in the parent category, as WP:SUBCAT. I hope that this is not a revenge nomination for the CFD nomination below - gender, geography, party and term are all valid ways of categorising MPs, as we have tried to discuss at Category talk:British MPs, but we shouldn't mix them up - we don't want Category:Female Labour MPs for Reading or whatever, just separate hierarchies for these different systems. Martín (saying/doing) 16:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ethiopian arts

Category:Ethiopian arts to Category:Arts in Ethiopia

Category is proposed for renaming to Category:Arts in Ethiopia to match all other "in country" named categories in Category:Arts by country, such as Category:Arts in France and Category:Arts in Canada. Kurieeto 15:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Harry Potter music

Delete, only contains one article with same name. Lkjhgfdsa 15:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:British female MPs

Category:Female members of the United Kingdom Parliament from English constituencies to Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament from English constituencies
Category:Female members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Scottish constituencies to Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Scottish constituencies
Category:Female members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Welsh constituencies to Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Welsh constituencies
Category:Female members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Northern Irish constituencies to Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament from Northern Ireland constituencies
Merge, unnecessary subdivision, creating category clutter. MPs are subdivided by nation (England, Wales etc); this sub-sub-category is an excessive subdivision. Retain these MPs in Category:British female MPs. --BrownHairedGirl 15:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, as nom, to reduce clutter and because if this category is to be useful, it needs to list all female MPs together. Oh and the new name is also better. Martín (saying/doing) 15:55, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ajaria to Category:Adjara

This has been lurking in Category:Categories for speedy renaming since May 9, 2006. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 14:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Australian rules football player rosters

Category:Australian rules football player rosters to Category:Australian rules football player lists

Rename, Roster is a word rarely used in Australian sport and few readers would understand it. I@n 09:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename agree - never seen or heard SatuSuro 11:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename They are officially referred to as player lists by the controlling bodies of the sport. Gnangarra 11:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Olborne 13:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Lists of Australian-rules football players...? David Kernow 14:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Knights of the Bath

Category:Knights of the Bath to Category:Knights of the Order of the Bath

Merge. Was previously speedied but not tagged. Both categories exist, and "Knights of the Order of the Bath" seems more correct to me, reflecting the category's main article. RobertG ♬ talk 09:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Non-Fictional Egyptian books

Category:Non-Fictional Egyptian books to Category:Non-fictional Egyptian literature

Rename, was speedied to remove capital F, but would be better renamed altogether for consistency. RobertG ♬ talk 09:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion moved from speedy.

Category:Non-Fictional Egyptian books to Category:Non-fictional Egyptian books - correct case. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 19:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Should that be Category:Non-fiction Egyptian books? -- ProveIt ^(talk) 20:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - im confused. is this for Category:Egyptian non-fiction books or Category:Non-fiction books about Egypt? also why is this one "books" when the other non-fiction(al?) by country stuff is "literature"? BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 23:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - forget that. i just realised it's about non-existant books. Should still be Category:Non-fictional Egyptian literature tho to match the others. BL Lacertae - kiss the lizard 23:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anti-Muslim sentiment

Merge There is already a category titled Category:Anti-Islam sentiment. The categories are the same. C56C 06:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No Merge, Anti-Muslim refers to sentiment toward actual believers (individuals) of Islam while Anti-Islam sentiment doesn't refer to individuals. (→Netscott) 07:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User Composition

Category:User Composition to Category:Wikipedian composers

Duplicate categories. Merge. - EurekaLott 04:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. --Cswrye 14:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chinese neolithic cultures

Category:Chinese neolithic cultures to Category:Neolithic cultures of China

Rename, Neolithic should be capitalized, "Neolithic cultures of China" is a better description than "Chinese Neolithic cultures". Confuzion 03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative rename to Neolithic cultures in China Cultures should use the naming convention of ethnic groups, which is "in X". Categorizing cultures as being "of state" or "of region" is inadvisable and less accurate. Kurieeto 15:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedian statistical reasons

Category:Wikipedian statistical reasons to Category:Wikipedians who use userboxes for statistical reasons

Rename - This name better reflects what the category is for. Cswrye 03:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Users whose favorite color is red

Delete - Why just red? Shouldn't those of us who like blue, green, or pink get categories as well? Seriously, I don't think that this category contributes anything. Note that if it is not deleted, it should be renamed Category:Wikipedians whose favorite color is red. Cswrye 03:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete C56C 06:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom or at least rename as per Cswyre. Olborne 13:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

California actors

Separate categories have been created for California film actors and California television actors. The articles added to them are being taken out of the national categories. By-state categories are of marginal value at the best of times, but these ones are egregious. Making state of origin/residence/whatever unspecified criteria anyone feels like using, the primary means of sorting American actors in each field doesn't reflect how the industry works and massively impedes access and navigability. There is also the potential for horrendous category clutter if stage, radio, voice, musical theatre, child etc by-state categories follow. Time taken: huge; clutter created: huge; value added: negative. Two actions are required to fix this situation: Actions required:

a) Merge both Category:California film actors and Category:California television actors into Category:California actors
b) Add all articles in Category:California film actors to Category:American film actors and all articles in Category:California television actors to Category:American television actors.

Chicheley 03:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Category:California film actors. C56C 06:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per nom. Olborne 13:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are these actors Actors from California...? David Kernow 14:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User images

Category:User images to Category:Wikipedian images

Rename to use standard naming convention for Wikipedian categories. Cswrye 03:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Last native speakers

Category:Last native speakers to Category:Last speakers

Rename, the last speaker isn't always a native (Tuone Udaina for example). Ptcamn 02:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Last known speakers of a language, to disambiguate and include "known". David Kernow 14:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mining towns in Australia

Listify and delete this category and its subcats:

Category:Mining towns in Victoria

Category:Mining towns in the Northern Territory

Category:Mining towns in Western Australia

Category:Mining towns in Tasmania

Category:Mining towns in South Australia

Category:Mining towns in Queensland

Category:Mining towns in New South Wales

I think that they set a bad precedent for economic activity by place categories, which could be problematic in the long run if they are to include historic and current economic activites. There are also some problems with how the categories are defined and could be thought of as misleading since many mining towns aren't just mining towns, and there are numerous towns associated with the mining industry where there is no mining.--Peta 02:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

comment This is problimatic and may be have an issue with precedents, from a Western Australian prespective the developement of the state has been significantly impacted by various mining booms, and busts. I would have thought that the more detailed form Category:Gold mining towns in Western Australia, also Iron, coal as a subcat of these. As a side thought my 14 year son is doing homework on "the effect of gold mining on WA". Gnangarra 11:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
comment I find it problematic as I have a western australia and western tasmanian experience where there are and were towns specifically mining only, with little or no current alternative economic activity at all - and it does fit in many specific examples. But looking back at the Mining project talk page where the issue and categories came from, I remain entirely ambivalent - I can see arguments that in some states there are historic mining towns have become in effect tourist towns. I do agree with above - maybe more detailed titles might save the day? SatuSuro 11:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedians by sport (playing)

category:Wikipedians by sport (playing) to category:Wikipedians interested in playing sports

Done to parallel preceding recommendation.--Mike Selinker 03:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. This name makes more sense. --Cswrye 03:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How about Category:Wikipedians who play sports? - EurekaLott 04:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedians by sporting team (support)

Here's a start on the Wikipedian sports teams categories. I left alone the ones for soccer, rugby, and other sports popular outside of North America, because I'm not sure what users from those countries would want.--Mike Selinker 00:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename all except "category:Sports fans on Wikipedia to category:Wikipedians interested in sports teams". You can be a sports fan without being interested in sports teams. "Wikipedians interested in sports" would be better. BoojiBoy 00:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename all except "category:Sports fans on Wikipedia to category:Wikipedians interested in sports teams" as per BoojiBoy. Hardly any of these categories mention that they are categories for Wikipedians, and therefore need renamed. Blarneytherinosaur 01:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't want to conflate it with category:Wikipedians by sport (playing). I updated it to category:Wikipedians interested in watching sports, and added the conversion of the other to category:Wikipedians interested in playing sports.--Mike Selinker 01:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename all per nom. --musicpvm 01:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename all per nom. I was thinking of doing this, so you just saved me a lot of work! --Cswrye 03:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Black and white films

Delete, Incredibly pointless category. Ibaranoff24 00:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. BoojiBoy 00:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Going to be huge. The JPS^{talk to me} 01:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Also hard to populate. :) --Shane ^{(talk/contrib)} 03:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]