Talk:Mahō Sentai Magiranger

Hikaru

Hikaru isn't an Ozu. He is the "student" of the Ozu dad Bragel, but it wasn't indicated he is blood related to any of the Ozus.

Should I change Hikaru to the Ozu family section, now he's part of the family? I'm not sure of changing it yet, as it may be some kind of spoiler. Chairoguma 03:04, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I think we can consider him part of the family, as he marries Urara. Gladrius 13:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I should start another section for this, but I'm wondering is he more powerful as Sungel or Magishine, and if the former is there some reason he only uses Magishine most of the time. Gladrius 13:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Speculation

Bah, I really wish there was a way to put speculation into the page since it's pretty clear that Wolzard is Brajiel. :P Nezu Chiza 07:08, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

• Episodes 32-34 are a 3-parter that reveals more of Brajiel and the Wolzard's true identity...

Size

This page is HUGE. Should the Infershia/Hades Beast/Hades Beastmen (and possibly the spells) be given their own page(s)? 63.204.72.28 02:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Wyvern's Weapon

I always found it strange that Hades God Wyvern's weapon was called a scepter. Recently, I saw a translation that said that he was wielding a spear (which, you can't deny that it DOES look like a spear). I mean, if he really is wielding a scepter, wouldn't it look more like a small mace or morningstar?--Mr Fink 02:41, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Pictures of Mystic Force

Should I remove them? It might be the same footage, but that DUMB Jetix logo appears on a corner. Also, Wolzard had a picture already, the one with the Madou circle. Little Angry Brown Bear 07:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Pictures of Mystic Force

Yes. I say give Wolzard back his Madou Circle picture and take out the Necrolai and Morticon ones. If those two deserve pictures, at least let it be FROM Magiranger. Ditto for all the Jetix monster pictures that someone decided to add. --172.129.185.16 13:47, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

• The pictures SHOULD be used, JETIX or no, just as long as the pictures are from the japanese footage - Fractyl
  • Actually, if there's a big "JETIX" logo in the corner, the image should not be used. That image is a Mystic Force character, not a Magiranger character. Ryūlóng 03:12, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

MagiKing Number One and Jetix Pictures.

That's NOT its name. "Number One" is just what the Magiranger say after finishing the formation. Every other source cites that it's MagiKing and MagiKing only. Also, NO JETIX PICTURES. Mystic Force images can go on the Mystic Force page, not in the Magiranger section. GreenNinja 21:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

Recently, all of the pictures of the Magiranger were removed from the page. These are the correct pictures, taken from episodes of Magiranger, but are falsely named after the characters in Mystic Force. Do not remove them, as they are in the correct place. Ryulong 01:55, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Barikirion

With a recent reversion, I was trying to figure out if the kanji for this character was correct. Here it says that "魔導馬バリキオン" translates as "Madōba Barikion". For some reason "魔導馬バリキオン" is parsed into romaji into a translator I use as "Mashirubeba Barikirion" with "shirube" meaning nothing ("Dark ? Horse Barikirion"). However, "魔術馬バリキオン" is parsed as "Majutsuba Barikirion" which means "Dark Magic Horse Barikirion". Should I just chalk this up to my online translator not being able to understand "Madōba Barikirion" in the kanji presented in the article?

Also, shouldn't "Barikirion" be transliterated as "Valkyrion"? Ryulong 06:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Heavenly Saint Rangers

Something I've been curious about for a while is are Isamu and Hikaru supposed to be more powerful in their Heavenly Saint forms, or their henshin forms? And if the former, is there some reason they have to use their henshin forms most of the time? Gladrius 13:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I think they would be more powerful in their Henshin forms since they use this form to combat more of their enemies, although I'm not sure why Hikaru fought Drake in his Heavenly Saint form rather than his other forms. I still believe their henshin forms are more powerful since both Hikaru and Isamu entered battle against N Ma in their henshin forms.Unknown Dragon 20:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Angels?

Wouldn't the Heavenly Saints be considered Angels? I mean that's what the "gel" part of their names comes from like "Blagel" is a combination of "BLAze" and "anGEL", and "Raigel" "Rai the god of thunder" and "anGEL". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown Dragon (talk • contribs)

That's just their name. And if this is about the "Nephilim" thing, just stop adding that. It's fancruft-ness, as it was never specifically stated ANYWHERE that the Ozu Family are nephilim because their father was Tenkuu Seija Blagel (Heavenly/Sky Saint Blagel). I reverted it the first time because I had a feeling you added it because you had just watched the ABC Family film "Fallen" which I did as well. While the Nephilim are the result of an Angel and a human having a child, Makito, Houka, Urara, Tsubasa, and Kai are not Nephilim. They are humans with the power of magic. Ryūlóng 22:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I was aware of Nephilim before Fallen was brought on the air or even when it was advertised, the Heavenly Saints are angel-like so technically the Ozu siblings would be Nephilim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown Dragon (talk • contribs)

Regardless, the Heavenly Saints are NOT angels. They are powerful deities that live in another dimension and have magical powers that are given to the Ozu siblings. And because they are NOT angels, Isamu Ozu/Blagel is not an Angel, and his children with Miyuki are not Nephilim. "-gel" was just used by Toei for their names. They are not Angels in any sense of the word, none of them even look like the Christian conception of an Angel. They are elementals. And please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Ryūlóng 23:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

So? They don't have to look like the normal concept to be angels (Sungel does resemble an angel though), heck Blagel looks like the exact opposite of an angel, he looks more like a devil than anything. But it isn't just their names that point them out as angels, Magitopia, the realm they live in, makes it obvious. In the show Magitopia has been referred to as "Heaven" and "the Realm of Heaven" and it opposite can be said about the Kedomono Realm (although the strange thing is I have watched videos of all of the episodes of Magiranger and the realm that N Ma and the Hades Beasts come from is never referred to as the Kedomono Realm, it's either referred to as Hades or Infershia, and Miyuki even referred to the place as Hell). It's quite obvious they were intended to be angels. ~— Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown Dragon (talk • contribs)

But they aren't angels. If anything, they're gods and the Ozu would be demigods, similar to the Greek Pantheon. Ryūlóng 03:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Then why not have a statement explaining how the Ozu Siblings are similar to both Nephilims and Demigods because of their heritage?Unknown Dragon 03:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Because it is original research, and Wikipedia is not a place for original research. Ryūlóng 03:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

If it's in the show, include it. If it's based on something unrelated to the show and never mentioned at all in the show, it probably isn't applicable. Gladrius 13:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I no they have not denied the fact that the Heavenly Saints are angels, and if they were, the siblings would technically be considered Nephilim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown Dragon (talk • contribs)

But it was not mentioned in the show explicitly that the Heavenly Saints are angels. So therefore, the Ozu siblings are not to be considered Nephilim unless it was explicitly stated that Isamu was an angel (not because his Heavenly Saint name is Burajeru/Buragel). Ryūlóng 02:01, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Snowgel's gender

What is Snowgel's gender? At first Snowgel was referred to as he by Hikaru when he was explaining to the Ozu siblings to find her, but later on Snowgel is referred to as a female. Drake also used the derogatory term, "bastard" which is a term used towards males. Unknown Dragon 05:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe Snowgel is female. Her adult form is very feminine, and one of the better fansites refers to Snowgel as a "she" [1]. Ryūlóng 05:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I think Snowgel's a she, especially if we go by correlating the genders of the Rangers with their patron Saints. Gladrius 18:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Special Abilities

Why was this removed? Seeing as how not all the siblings have their abilities listed!!! Anyway, what's Makito's special ability?

• Kai = Alchemy
• Tsubasa = Potion Making
• Urara = Fortune Telling
• Houka = Transformations
• Makito = ??

24.14.120.92 23:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

It was removed because it seemed like a fan question. Makito is an herbologist. Ryūlóng 23:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

And their abilities are listed in the text already. Ryūlóng 00:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

The Magical Wikiquote

It seems that Magiranger has many wonderful and memorable quotes from the series, do you think we should create a Wikiquote section for Magiranger?Unknown Dragon 20:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, we could use the Wikiquote template. What is the name of the page over on Wikiquote? Ryūlóng