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Clean-up Suggestions

I'm assigning a few tasks to keep the articles under the project umbrella nice and tidy. Several of you practice these on a regular basis, but since it's difficult to keep watch on every single article, please take initiative and fix these problems as they cross your path. ~ Hibana 17:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Minor tasks

  • Removal of second person pronouns, such as "you" and "your" and replacement with proper syntax like "the player".
  • Decapitalization of words such as chocobo, moogle, and esper, as they do not appear capitalized within the games except when they are part of a formal title, such as "Chocobo Ranch".
  • Expansion of abbreviations, especially RPG to computer role-playing game or console role-playing game, and FF to Final Fantasy.
  • Italicization of game and film titles.
  • Instances of "Square-Enix" with a hyphen should be corrected as Square Enix; although the official website contains the hyphen for HTML purposes, the company's title contains a space.

Redirects

Redirects have become rampant in these past few months. Many of them are a result of major merges, such as Summon magic (Final Fantasy) into Final Fantasy magic and Compilation of Final Fantasy VII into Final Fantasy VII. These should be fixed and pinpointed (i.e. [[Final Fantasy magic#Summon magic|summon magic]]) where appropriate. Some of them may not be as obvious, and may require disambiguation. Sephiroth is frequently wiki'd in place of Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) even though it links to a disambiguation page. Be sure to check all articles containing these redirects using the "What links here" option.

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Community

August roll call

The year is halfway over, guys. What are you working on as we head into this second half?

  1. Renmiri Here for minor tasks and vandalism patrol. Oh and archived this talk page
  2. Sir Crazyswordsman I'm not going anywhere! I'll stay and see what needs to be done. If FFIV, FFVII, or FFIX are going to have an FA push, let me know so I can help. I actually plan on doing Chrono Cross once Chrono Trigger's push is over as well. Also, I'm probably going to work on getting Terra Branford and Magus (Chrono Trigger) to Good Article status.
  3. RaCha'ar Yo. Next project: consolidating FFTA classes. After that: THE WORLD! -RaCha'ar 14:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
  4. ZeWrestler Talk --Alive and kicking. super happy about the recent FA's this project generated. Moving soon too new university. might disapear for a bit. But i'm around. --ZeWrestler Talk 14:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
  5. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) - Still alive, will start to edit again soon, promise.
  6. Ryu Kaze — I'm here obviously, working on getting Final Fantasy X-2, Chrono Trigger and Shadow of the Colossus to FA status. The first two are almost there, I think (they're currently in FACs), but Shadow may have some ways to go. Ryu Kaze 18:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
  7. Deckiller - working on tailoring FFX-2 with Ryu, planning on working on FFIX and FFIV next, if possible. — Deckiller 18:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
  8. Axem Titanium - I'm doing stuff around. I'd really like to get involved in helping create a FA, but I'm not sure how. BTW, it's spelled "ZA WARUDO". Axem Titanium 19:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
  9. PresN - I'm just chillin' out, maxin' relaxin' all cool. I'll muck a bit with the FF pages, like FFIV and V, and keep going with the housekeeping I've been doing here and at the main CVG project. --PresN 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
  10. Hibana - overseeing the articles for the new releases for this month, will probably standardize Final Fantasy II, digging up references for Final Fantasy VII ~ Hibana 21:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
  11. Wwwwolf - nominally here tweaking around, though most of my time in WP goes on admin stuff. I will get back playing FF8 soon. For real. Honest. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 11:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
  12. Tristam - I tried my hand at the quirky Square's Tom Sawyer. More importantly, I've been completely rewriting the Final Fantasy IX article. So before you guys have a go at it, please let me finish my rewrite, because otherwise we'll have a lot of stuff clashing. Oh, and it looks like someone nominated Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (which I rewrote) for Good Article status. :) --Tristam 16:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
  13. Raditzu - Fixing minor mistakes such as typos.

Good Article Collaboration of the Week

The current Good article Collaboration of the Week is

Elvis Presley:

Elvis Aaron Presley began his career as one of the first performers of rockabilly, an uptempo fusion of country and rhythm and blues with a strong back beat. His novel versions of existing songs, mixing "black" and "white" sounds, made him popular—and controversial—as did his uninhibited stage and television performances. He recorded songs in the rock and roll genre, with tracks like "Hound Dog" and "Jailhouse Rock" later embodying the style. Presley had a versatile voice and had unusually wide success encompassing other genres, including gospel, blues, ballads and pop. To date, he is the only performer to have been inducted into four separate music halls of fame.


Please help to improve this article to the highest of standards.

--ZeWrestler Talk 00:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Issues

I've written the article about Fat Chocobo. Now all that I need is more info about Chubby Chocobo in Chocobo Racing and the Japanese text. --Frid 10:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Image summaries and licensing

Images without proper summaries and fair-use rationale are easy grounds by which to refuse an article FA status, and can also be grounds for the deletion of the images. Thought I'd remind everybody and hopefully save us all some headaches. Ryu Kaze 17:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

FFX on the front page

I'd appreciate it if you could help with that, Tyler. I requested July 19 (the fifth anniversary of the game's release), and that date is fast-approaching. Since there hasn't been a response yet, I was getting a little anxious. Ryu Kaze 14:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. ^__^ Ryu Kaze 03:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Many thanks :) — Deckiller 03:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Looks nifty, good sirs. Crazyswordsman 01:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Attention FFXI players!

List of Final Fantasy XI characters needs your help! There's a couple of places that have way, way, way too much information (Prince Trion is a good example). I do not play FFXI anymore and quit shortly before the release of the last expansion, so I'm not a good person to try to cut this text down to the relevant bits. If you still play and/or are familiar with some of these characters, please take a look if you have a chance and try editing some things down. Also, be aware that I cut out a huge amount of copyvio'd text copied from Playonline.com and be on the lookout for any more infractions. Thanks! -RaCha'ar 15:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Request: more details for FF7

Request: Please write a detail account of the story of Final_Fantasy_VII#Story. I think it is too short. I highly prefer a detail account of the story like the one in Final_Fantasy_VI#Story.

Major issues

I just noticed we are WAY behind on our cruft merging. — Deckiller 21:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
On the subject of cruft-merging, any chance we can also get a consensus on what to do with the character class articles? Merge them certainly, but leave them in list format or prosify? As soon as there's consensus on that I'm more than ready to start cleaning out the individual class articles that aren't notable enough for their own article. -RaCha'ar 21:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't really mind, as long as gameguide info is out and the info is compressed. Games like Final Fantasy tactics make their living on classes (so perhaps the two tactics games should get their own article?). We really only need one article describing the classes with a "real world" perspective (although that can be tough with video game articles). — Deckiller 21:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII

I've gone ahead and merged it. ~ Hibana 22:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Page renames

Honestly, that sounds acceptable to me. The more I think on it, the more I agree that using "Final Fantasy" as a adjective is a little goofy-sounding. – – Sean Daugherty (talk) 16:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Awesome. It'd be great if RaCha'ar or Hibana could comment on this. A pet peeve of mine is that in articles like Final Fantasy magic, the main point of the article (magic) is neither capitalized nor is it the first word in the title. Axem Titanium 22:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm still not a big fan of "List of stuff in the Final Fantasy series" as a format, but I guess saying "blah blah in Final Fantasy" instead of "Final Fantasy blah blah" wouldn't be too horrible. There's just SO many links to change that it makes my head hurt just thinking about it. I still prefer things the way they were, but I can see the logic of the change. -RaCha'ar 17:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm against renaming. "Magic" is such vast subject and applies to so many articles that we run the risk of putting a needle in a haystack, unneccesarily. We all know the "drinking from a firehose" feel of getting a search page with thousands of articles weakly related to what you are looking for. Magic fans will be annoyed to find games they never heard about in the midst of the stuff they want to read. The only readers interested in "the magic of Final Fantasy are readers familiar with the game and they will find all Final Fantasy related articles easily using our current naming convention. Let's face it: Final Fantasy "magic" is NOT Magic and should not be lumped with it. Renmiri 14:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I really don't think making the article title Magic in Final Fantasy would lump it with "magic" any more than Final Fantasy magic would. Also, a search for "magic" on wikipedia yields 26915, which is a hefty amount, with or without one extra article documenting an important aspect of Final Fantasy. In that same search, seven out of the first eleven results documented radio stations, rather than any esoteric phenomena. In fact, I didn't see anything remotely related to magic in video games until Blue Magic on the 3rd page, roughly the 45th result. At any rate, "magic aficionados" will have trouble enough finding what they're looking for, whether or not this article is there. On the other hand, "Magic in Final Fantasy" would not only avoid using "Final Fantasy" as an adjective, it would clarify it as a concept in "Final Fantasy", rather looking like a loose collection of mildly related words (which would certainly be the case to a layperson). Actually, "Final Fantasy magic" is probably more likely to be confused as an article on magic than "Magic in Final Fantasy" because people would believe "Final Fantasy" to be a brand of magic, assuming they had no idea what "Final Fantasy" was. Axem Titanium 05:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Really, I have to agree that it would be better for those list pages to use something like "Magic in Final Fantasy" or "Weapons in Final Fantasy" as their titles. It will mean a lot of links to be fixed, though, sadly. Ryu Kaze 20:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
That does seem to be a problem. Isn't there a bot that fixes redirects or something? Axem Titanium 20:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
If this is the agreement, we should probably make a list of all articles that are going to need renames and a very careful eye at their related "what links here" pages, and have project members bid to take on each of the articles, to make sure they're all taken care of. We're going to need a group of people for this; it's a huge project for one or two people. Again, I'll volunteer to help, but I don't have the time to take care of more than one or two articles. Merging the character classes was a huge headache in terms of changing wikilinks and I can't imagine how much worse this will be. -RaCha'ar 20:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, for starters, the stuff at the bottom of Template:Final Fantasy series. I'll compile a complete list as soon as I can. Axem Titanium 02:13, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

The following is a list of possible articles that may need to be renamed per above. I'd be happy to shoulder as much work as needed to get it done. Axem Titanium 16:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Are we only doing the changes for articles that apply to the overall series, not for individual games? For example, Final Fantasy XI character classes > List of character classes in Final Fantasy XI? -RaCha'ar 17:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I actually don't have an opinion on this. We could if we want to and it would give a sense of uniformity of style though. Axem Titanium 18:12, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Definitely go for uniformity. There's not quite as many lists as I had thought, but it would still be a pain in the ass to fix all those broken links. As long as a group effort is made, though, it wouldn't be that bad. I've fixed redirects on occasions like this about three or four times since I started working on this WikiProject, and it would be horrible for one or two people to fix all of these. Anyway, if it's agreed upon that we do this, I volunteer to help fix two or three of them. Ryu Kaze 19:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Character class merges ahoy!

Okay. All classes except those mentioned above have been merged and redirected, and I think/hope I've caught all the wikilinks to the previous articles for character classes and pointed them in the right direction. If I've missed any please feel free to fix them or point them out to me. -RaCha'ar 20:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Final Fantasy VI and Final Fantasy VIII have both joined the ranks of other featured articles generated from this project. Congradulations to all the editors who put time into those articles to make them what they are now. --ZeWrestler Talk 17:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

That's absolutely incredible. Big, huge congratulations to all involved! -RaCha'ar 17:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
A big thanks to everyone involved. I will make sure to give everyone who helped a barnstar. Sir Crazyswordsman 19:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Woohooo!!! Congratulations CSM, Deck, Ryu and all the editors that pitched in to help!!! Renmiri 03:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the congrats. ^^ Ryu Kaze 18:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Good Articles

I added in Aerith and Cloud, not sure when they hit GA status, but they are now! --PresN 20:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ryu did some of the major work there. Although much of the push was helped by anons and new editors, believe it or not. Sir Crazyswordsman 20:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I totally didn't check the "Media" section of the GA list last time, so now there's Jenova, Sephiroth, Tidus, and Yuna in the list! --PresN 18:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully we can get the rest of the main characters up there as well. Squall Leonheart and Terra Branford are close, and I'm planning on having Terra Branford peer reviewed. Sir Crazyswordsman 01:43, 4 August 2006

(UTC)

Final Fantasy Magic looks like a promising article to attempt to bring up to GA status. What do you guys think?--ZeWrestler Talk 14:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Final Fantasy Mystic Quest hit GA today! it's updated both here and at CVG --PresN 15:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Hooray! My efforts finally culminated in some kind of article distinction. All the better that it's part of the FF Wikiproject. :) --Tristam 19:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

To Do list

has anyone else noticed our todo list has thinned greatly. Maybe it is time we give it a mass update? --ZeWrestler Talk 14:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

We have so many GAs and FAs that not many people gave it much thought. We're just doing stuff as we go along, methinks. Eventually it all gets positive results. Sir Crazyswordsman 15:06, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
If one of them is perchance to merge the different Final Fantasy Tactics Advance character class articles into one article, I have just about finished the article in my sandbox, so you can hold off on that until it's done. If not, well... the article is almost done! Yay! -RaCha'ar 04:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

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