Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Jimmyvanthach/Proposed decision

all proposed

Arbitrators should vote for or against each point or vote to abstain.

• Only items that receive a majority aye vote will be enacted.
• Items that receive a majority nay vote will be formally rejected.
• Items that do not receive a majority aye or nay vote will be open to possible amendment by any Arbitrator if he so chooses. After the amendment process is complete, the item will be voted on one last time.
• Items that receive a majority abstentions will need to go through an amendment process and be re-voted on once.

Conditional votes for, against, or to abstain should be explained by the Arbitrator in parenthesis after his time-stamped signature. For example, an Arbitrator can state that he would only favor a particular remedy based on whether or not another remedy/remedies were enacted.

Proposed temporary orders

1) {text of proposed orders}

Aye:

Nay:

Abstain:

Proposed principles

proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on

1) Wikipedia is not a vehicle for Propaganda or advocacy of any kind, see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not

Aye:

1. Fred Bauder 21:24, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
2. Jwrosenzweig 22:06, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Nay:

Abstain:

Proposed findings of fact

proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on

1) User:Jimmyvanthach has edited a number of articles (user contributions) which relate to the former royal family of Vietnam in a manner which is associated with the viewpoint advocated by the website of the Imperial Nguyen Dynasty and The Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League and has advocated that viewpoint although his exact identity and connection with that group is uncertain.

Aye:

1. Fred Bauder 21:46, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
2. Jwrosenzweig 22:06, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Nay:

Abstain:

2) 1) User:Jimmyvanthach or someone with the same point of view and history of advocacy has also used the accounts Contributions Celindgren (the actual C.E.M. Lindgren has no connection with this account, see Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Tran_Van_Ba#E-mail_evidence_regarding_impersonation), and Contributions Tran Van Ba as well as the anonymous ip 198.26.120.13

Aye:

1. Fred Bauder 22:03, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)
2. Jwrosenzweig 22:06, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Nay:

Abstain:

Proposed decision

Remedies

proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on

1) User Jimmyvanthach, User Celindgrenand and User Tran Van Ba are banned from editing articles which relate to the royal family of Vietnam and articles which relate to the recent history and politics of Vietnam.

Aye:

1. Fred Bauder 22:46, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Nay:

Abstain:

Enforcement

proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on

1) Edits by User Jimmyvanthach, User Celindgrenand and User Tran Van Ba to articles which relate to the former royal family of Vietnam or to the recent history and politics of Vietnam may be removed by any user. In the event the banned users attempt to restore removed edits they may be banned by any administrator for a brief period (a day or less but up to a week in the event of repeat offenses).

Aye:

1. Fred Bauder 22:50, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Nay:

Abstain:

Discussion by Arbitrators

General

I believe this problem was caused partially by not understanding that Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advocacy; understandable, as it sometimes seems that rule is honored more in the breach than in its observation. Please feel welcome to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia and enjoy editing in other areas. Fred Bauder 22:53, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Motion to close

Four Aye votes needed to close case