User talk:JzG/Archive 24

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Edit reversal?

JzG, may I ask why the edit I mad was considered inappropriate or not suitable? I noticed you reversed the contrib and was curious as to why. Thanks. User:MrKryz

I can't trace an edit by you that I've reverted. Details? Just zis Guy you know? 21:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The History Log edit at 16:03, 3 August 2006 is the reversal I am referring to. Thanks for replying so quick too ! User:MrKryz

OIC. WP:EL, commercial link. Just zis Guy you know? 22:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I understand now. My next noob question would be why is that not a good external given that it goes to a non commercial guide/tip page w/o advertising or any service/sales info? Would it had been better to listed to the index of all guides and articles available as the [[1]] added after that? Thanks for the help & advice. --Mrkryz 22:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that it is a commercial link - the site is actively selling something. Just zis Guy you know? 08:28, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delisted DRV

To be honest, that DRV was in need of a bit of rougeness. I did warn the user concerned that I thought listing it was a bad idea, and it seems that I was right. With any luck the matter ends here. (Some good did come out of it, as it gave me a chance to notice that the DRV daily subpage hadn't been transcluded). --ais523 11:37, 21 July 2006 (U T C)

ready for archive.Just zis Guy you know? 11:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

This will make the list of backmasked messages a lot easier to clean up. Λυδ α cιτγ 23:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ready for archive Just zis Guy you know? 11:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kittie May Ellis

Why did you state here that this article is unverifiable? In my previous versions I've posted at least 15 secondary, published sources. Are you just reading what other editors have claimed (without any basis I might add). The newspaper the Snohomish Tribune is a verifiable source just for one. Wjhonson 18:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there Just zis Guy you know? 08: 31, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Request for move, Headlight → Headlamp

Attempted to rename Headlight to Headlamp, unable to do so because Headlamp contains a redirect with an edit history. Rationale: While it is common for the two terms to be used interchangeably in colloquial speech, headlampis the technically correct term for the device itself. All regulations and technical specifications worldwide refer to headlamps, and not to "headlights". All manufacturers of such devices consider themselves makers of headlamps, not "headlights". All human-factors and traffic-safety researchers worldwide refer in their works to headlamps, not to "headlights". "Headlight" properly refers to the light itself, produced and distributed by the headlamp(s). This is certainly a distinction that would not be honored in everyday conversation or informal writing, but we're writing an encyclopedia here, so precision counts. Talking about "sealed beam lights" or "round lights" or "rectangular lights" or "replaceable-bulb lights" might be acceptable in a stylistic analysis in which the devices are significantly only by dint of their existence; such usage, though, is technically improper in a discussion of lighting devices. This article's improper title has been a low-level irritant for quite some time; 193.202.109.254's attempt to standardize on one term, even though s/he picked the wrong one, is the impetus for requesting a pagemove to correct that impropriety. Your assistance would be appreciated. TIA, Scheinwerfermann 16:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still thinking about this one. More Talk needeed I think. Just zis Guy you know? 11:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

[2] CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 06:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed. Just zis Guy you know? 08:31, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration Request Filed

I have asked for abrbitration involving User:Nscheffey. See here. Please post any comments you desire to add. Ste4k 08:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moot, user has left the building. Just zis Guy you know? 08:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The YTMND user template

I have restored it per the German Userbox solution, and put in the redirection to where the template code is now, safe on userspace. Crazyswordsman 03:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SirIsaacBrock

I noticed that you were the one to enact the block on SirIsaacBrock (talk · contribs), it appears that a user JukeBox (talk · contribs) has shown up who seems to be interested in Hitler and Dog fighting, SirIsaacBrock's favorite topics. Four edits probably aren't enough for insta-blocking as sockpuppet, and checkuser could take weeks - so maybe you might like to keep an eye out. - Trysha ^(talk) 07:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed. Just zis Guy you know? 11:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ACIM

Would you please look at the discussion page on ACIM under Introduction. It seems that whatever is written for this article, Ste4k is going to obstruct. Thanks--Who123 02:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moot, user blocked. Just zis Guy you know? 09:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OR Complaints

I am having trouble understanding your standings on WP:OR in regards to the article YTMND. Following that argument that all YTMND's are OR, does this mean that all information on YTMND would have to come from outside sources? How would the YTMND Wiki be a viable and acceptable, non-OR source, if it gains an overwhelming majority of info from YTMND's? Would the "YTMND News" be considered OR, since the only source is Max Goldberg?

I will be attempting to remove OR from the YTMND article, but i fear it may be labled as vandalism since it would remove a large part of the article. What steps would you advise me take as a precaution? 24.167.68.211 19:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there. Just zis Guy you know? 08:32, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My neck

Aim higher, please -- you will hit nothing of value. Seriously, I read you loud and clear.--Mantanmoreland 23:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Flay me neck! Just zis Guy you know? 08:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Kavanaugh

Hi, a while ago you undid some vandalism on my talk page and banned the person who did it. Could you explain to the editor at Brett Kavanaugh that putting conspiracy theories on a federal judge's article is not acceptable. I have explained his sources are questionable-- that is one of his books claims that Clinton was behind the Oaklahoma City bombing. Thanks. C56C 05:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear JzG:

Thank you for adding your comments to the discussion page of the Brett Kavanaugh article. A neutral viewpoint can be helpful to improve the article and make it as accurate as possible.

Apparently without reading the book, "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton," by British journalist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, published by Regnery 1997, C56C has made the charge that the book, "claims that Clinton was behind the Oaklahoma (sic) City bombing." Perhaps C56C found this statement in a citizen's online book review at Amazon.com since the charge appears there. Reading online book reviews is not equal to the task of reading the book.

C56C used this false claim to unfairly smear the entire book and further allege other "sources are questionable." C56C should be asked to provide a direct quote with the page number from Evans-Pritchard's book to support the outrageous charge. The book either "claims that Clinton was behind the Oklahoma City bombing," or it does not. If the book does not make the claim then it is C56C who is actually the questionable source.

On page five the author did raise this question, "But what if the Clinton administration has not told the full truth about the Oklahoma bombing, as many of the families now suspect?" The blame for not telling the full truth is directed primarily at the Justice Department. Whatever faults are in Evans-Pritchard's book, claiming President Clinton was behind the tragic bombing is not one of them.

To be fair, the title of the book, "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton," may confuse readers to believe that somehow Bill Clinton was to blame. I personally know that privately the author Ambrose Evans-Pritchard objected to the title, but the publisher Regnery insisted on the title. The poorly chosen title may have unfairly cast a shadow over the former President, but the author never even remotely claimed, "that Clinton was behind the Oklahoma City bombing."

Reading the source documents used as references to the Brett Kavanaugh article should be done before discussion or characterizing the sources as "questionable." Loaded words like "conspiracy theory" are not a substitute for good scholarship. Thank you, Thomist 16:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I love conspiracy theories - as a fan of irony and satire they strike me as some of the funniest material out there. When I was an H2G2 researcher I wrote the article on conspiracy theories: [3] The one repeatable feature of all these is that they apply a SEP field to any obvious, prosaic explanation. What's more likely: a deranged libertarian extremist bombing a Federal building, or the President of the United States arrranging it for, er, some real good reason, honest? Anyway, I have no real opinion here other than that we should take a small-c conservative approach in the case of any living individual. If these theories are really so very plausible then there will be numerous excellent high-quality sources we can cite. If there aren't, well, we know what inference we can draw. Pace Jimbo, I think we are too ready to assume good faith on the part of people who, frankly, fail to demonstrate it. Not saying that's the case here, I'm just getting a bit weary of POV-pushers and soapbox merchants. Just zis Guy you know? 19:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Amazon.com editorial for "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton," states the book "connects the president to everything from 1997's Oklahoma City bombing to Arkansas's drug underworld to the mysterious death of White House aide and longtime Clinton friend Vince Foster, and, of course, to Paula Jones."[4] As for Christopher Ruddy's book Thomist cited, [5] "The Park Police, the F.B.I., Special Counsel Robert Fiske and Foster's family all concluded that he had killed himself where he was found. But for four years a floating crap game, including Clinton bashers, radio hosts, Net crawlers, kooks, Jerry Falwell and a few journalists, has questioned the verdict, suggesting or insisting that he died elsewhere or by some other hand." Referring to Ruddy's evidence "some of Ruddy's unanswered questions are undoubtedly the normal static of police work." That's of course, if you read Amazon.com and NY Times editorial. Maybe Thomist believes they too are part of the conspiracy? C56C 20:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But have you read the book? Anyway, the solution is to debate on Talk first and steer clear of novel syntheses. Just zis Guy you know? 21:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't read that book. I haven't read any book or video by Kent Hovind either. Yet, since both defy commonly held beliefs and are part of a fringe population I can depend on experts in the field. Experts have concluded there was no Vincent Foster cover up and Hovind is wrong on his beliefs as well.

Hovind's work and the criticisms of it are widely available on the net and in print. Criticisms of Hovind do not rely on novel syntheses or interpretaitons of reviews - we can attribute criticisms directly to named authorities in many cases. And the Hovind article is not one of the better examples to look at anyway since opposition to him is on the basis of science not political affiliation. Just zis Guy you know? 09:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hovind is an excellent example because we are talking about evidence in both cases. The conspiracy Thomist wants to add is contrary to evidence presented by official investigators-- I mean three separate, independent investigations (including one that cost 80 million US dollars). Politicial affliations are irrelevant as long as the facts can be backed up with reliable sources. C56C 11:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If people want to dispute the Amazon.com and NY Times reviews then should take it up with those sources. C56C 23:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me. C56C has been misleading JzG. C56C concealed from JzG that book reviews were used in place of reading actual books or documents and by calling me the name "conspiracy theorist" convinced JzG to issue me a "warning."

I appear to be the only person here who actually read the Official Investigative Report and the two books used as sources. JzG wrote, "If these theories are really so very plausible then there will be numerous excellent high-quality sources we can cite." By "these theories" I assume we are talking about grand jury witness intimidation which is the issue C56C seems unwilling to allow into the article. One "excellent high-quality source" that I have cited is the second highest court in the United States, the Special Division of the U.S. Court of Appeals that released the Official Report. Within the Official Report, the grand jury witness intimidation is discussed on several pages. This court IS the most "excellent high-quality source" to issue an opinion on "these theories."

C56C wrote, "The conspiracy Thomist wants to add (sic) is contrary to evidence presented by official investigators." First, can we agree not to call each other names? Is it necessary to give me the label, "conspiracy Thomist?" Second, the statement is absolutely false that I want to add something contrary to the evidence presented in the Official Report. How would C56C even know this having relied on book reviews (second hand opinions) rather than reading the actual books or Official Report? Name-calling is the result of poor scholarship.

The references, regarding grand jury witness intimidation, cited in books ARE consistent with the discussion of grand jury witness intimidation found in the Official Report. C56C has now made TWO FALSE statements: 1) That Evans-Pritchard's book "claims that Clinton was behind the Oaklahoma (sic) City bombing." 2) "The conspiracy Thomist wants to add (sic) is contrary to evidence presented by official investigators."

Should Wikipedia use these false statements by C56C to determine reliable sources?

Only by reading the Official Report will it be clear that I have not offered any novel syntheses. I have only presented the facts as they officially are. Absent reading the official document it would be prudent to withhold judgement on novel sytheses. I have been unfairly judged enough by the uninformed. Thomist 02:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear JzG:

On July 28 you inserted a heading "Recent edits" at the Brett Kavanaugh discussion page. You wrote: "I have removed this form the article and asked Thomist to achieve consensus here befopre reinserting this content."

I respected your advice and have been working toward that goal, with patience. User C56C who first contacted you at the top of this discussion on your page is participating in the discussion, yet C56C continues to edit the article. It seems unfair that I must wait to reach a concensus before making changes to the article while C56C continues to make changes independent of others.

You seem to be fair-minded. Could you put things back as they were on July 31, and encourage C56C to wait until we reach a solution before editing the article. Thank you. Thomist 01:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See m:The Wrong Version Just zis Guy you know? 08:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hillman/Dig

Hi, you might be interested in this MfD which is a consequence of threats by User:Tim Smith and User:DrL to have me blocked, subsequent to the recent deletion review on CTMU in which we both participated. (I think they have misread the relevant policies.) ---CH 23:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for opinion: Talk:British Shorthair

Another user has added the NEDM/Happycat information into the British Shorthair "Famous British Shorthairs" subsection. In an effort to prevent another revert war over this, I have moved the debate into the Article's Talk Page. Your opinion and vote would be greatly appreciated. --Targetter 04:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there. YTMNDcruft, not fit for inclusion. Just zis Guy you know? 08:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gastrich?=

Bufordhollis (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) created Robert Morey.

I deleted the repost, but I don't think this is actually Gastrich. Just zis Guy you know? 08:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiWoo Two

User WikiWoo (talk · contribs) seems to have a thing about Ontario regional government bureaucrats. I first noticed that he (or she) has recreated the AfD'ed David Szwarc as a redirect to Madarins of Regional Government in Ontario (sic), and in checking his (or her) contributions uncovered what seems to be a walled garden in support of Ontario regional government bureaucrats. I mean, "Senior administrators" as a redirect to Madarins of Regional Government in Ontario (sic)? It look slike admin assistance is required, and as you've apparently dealt with him before... --Calton | Talk 00:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

responding there. Just zis Guy you know? 11:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I think it's about time he get a very long block. He's recreated the recently deleted David Szwarc, Mitch Zamojc and Roger Maloney and redirected them (along with Senior administrators to Madarins (sic) of Regional Government in Ontario. He obviously has no regard for any rules here. OzLawyer 02:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hasn't he exhausted the patience of the community yet? Anyone who fixes his edits, along with an explanation of why they violate WP policies is immediately met with a "You'reacensoringgestapovandalencyclopediasaresupposedtoprovideinformation..." rant with no attempt to engage other editors' explanations of why his edits are contrary to WP policies. WikiWoo seems incompatible with the WP community for the following reasons:

Does not WP:AGF. That does not fully do his behavior justice, actually. It is not merely that he fails to assume good faith, he lives in an alternative reality where good faith disagreements do not exist. If someone takes issue with one of his edits, it is because that editor is a paid agent of the Peel regional government.
Violates WP:CIVIL. Once again, this does not appear to be a concept he is capable of grasping. I have yet to have a single interaction with him where he does not personalize disagreements over edits to articles.
WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE. He has strong opinions about the Ontario regional governments and is here mostly to promote them because THE TRUTH^TM must be told. Believes that newspapers, etc. are bought and paid for by the Peel regional government and so cannot be trusted to tell THE TRUTH^TM. Therefore, he must use WP to disseminate THE TRUTH^TM about the Peel regional government to a waiting world.

An RFC was started for similar behavior back when he was WikiRoo. This does not seem to have resulted in improved conduct at WP, however. JChap T/E 01:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this conversation is obviously proof of the conspiracy against him! He must have made over 500 edits by now, almost all of which have required reversion or editing, and in all the battles he's caused, not one other editor has ever agreed with him (which just feeds his conspiracy theories). I started the RfC against him, and in the middle of it some admin decided it would be nice for Wiki to start with a clean slate instead of having to go through the RfC. Just mind boggling. Something really needs to be done on the admin level. --Gary Will 06:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted an article against consensus

You deleted the article David Walsh (sports reporter). You had been edit warring there and violated the rules about biographies of living people. You showed no willingness to resolve the conflict. I had asked for a third opinion, you ignore it and delete the article even though your suggestion to merge it had failed. You can delete my messages as "trolling" but you cannot deny that you abuse your administrative powers. Socafan 23:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. I deleted nothing, I redirected Walsh and Ballester to an article which included the text which was otherwise virttually identical between the two, there being almost nothing in either of them other than the book. There was no consensus to merge to Armstrong, but no consensus is needed to merge two article which have dulplicate content. In fact, it's encouraged. No admin tools were used. Just zis Guy you know? 07:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to write a rouge anthem eventually, you know. RasputinAXP c 09:26, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There was a third opinion helping on the content. You however ignored it and made it redirects, thus deleting the history and hiding that you had violated the same rules about biographies of living people you had claimed to have blocked me for. Your blocks of me while in a content dispute were abuse of adminship. Restore Pierre Ballester and David Walsh (sports reporter) immediately. Socafan 11:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, I merged two articles with substantially identical content to a single article which more accurately reflected the nature of that content. This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with adminship, it is a perfectly normal editorial action which can be performed by any registered user. The third opinion text was about the book it remains, unaltered, in the merged article. Just zis Guy you know? 11:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You know very well that blocking other editors to gain an advantage in a content dispute is abuse of admin power. And you know very well that your argumentation had failed to convince and you should not make articles redirects if there are others who disagree. Socafan 11:37, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DRV

Thanks for clearing up the messy layout. You got there before me. Tyrenius 12:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

De nada. Just zis Guy you know? 11:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Recognition

The Barnstar of Diligence

In recognition of your work in helping to keep Wikipedia free of original research, POV-pushing and vandalism, I award you this Barnstar of Diligence. OzLawyer 16:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acadame North

I respect your opinion but I do not agree, I am not doing this in 'Vanity' as you stated [please view wikipedia's personnel attacks policy] I am writing these articles for Socialism! You would not be here today if the glorious red army did not march in to Berlin in WW2, Do not disgrace Josip Broz Tito his Partisans Freed us! Acadame North honors that! You are acting like a Fascist! Do you no why Capitalism has failed? The League of Communists in Yugoslavia maintained a Orthodox religious community, loyal to god and their nation! Shame on you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Acadamenorth (talk • contribs) 21:26, July 31, 2006.

Responded somewhere, can't remember where. Just zis Guy you know? 11:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you very much for tackling the user who seems to me to have been trying to turn this place into Spankiwankipedia. It was about time someone did. I wish you luck of it as I am not sure he listens, but if it works, then great. JuniorJetKaptain 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(note to self: Fastifex (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log))

Barnstar

Many thanks. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 05:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

De nada :-) Just zis Guy you know? 11:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Traditional counties" of Scotland

The County Watch and ABC are at it yet again: trying to claim that Scotland has "traditional counties". We knocked that myth on the head last year, when we merged the Traditional counties of Scotland article with the Administrative counties of Scotland article. Well now they are trying to say that the situation in Scotland and England is equivalent, see Template_talk:Scotland_counties#Merger. It is not. I am sick to the back teeth of this. Can you please keep an eye on the situation? --Mais oui! 09:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Responding there. Just zis Guy you know? 11:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acadame North

I would not call putting the word 'glorious' in an article vandalism don’t worry I am writing user names down so in the event I do get blocked I can send a nice long email. Please don’t give me those links I really don’t care about those policies.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Acadamenorth (talk • contribs)

You might not, others do. I know you don't care about policy, that is why you are a problem. Just zis Guy you know? 13:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Opinions of other admins

JzG, may I suggest you make sure a couple other admins are keeping an eye on this thing, so that your actions (if you end up blocking him further) are not taken as those of a real "rouge admininstrator." :) OzLawyer 16:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good thought. Posted to WP:AN. Just zis Guy you know? 11:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Once again I do care about policy that is not for you state if I do or don’t the fact is the word 'glorious' is not offensive in any way, any time I make contributions you go back and delete them--Acadamenorth 15:05, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you genuinely care about policy then I strongly suggest that you accept the advice of long-standing Wikipedians when they explain it to you. Repeatedly having your contributions reverted or deleted is generally an indication that you don't understand policy. Just zis Guy you know? 15:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And it wasn't Guy who reverted the "glorious" (which you misspelled, by the way) on Marshal Tito; it was me. We have articles with facts about people, not opinions. If, as you claim, you care about policy, you would know that, and abide by it. Fan-1967 15:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Armand Navabi

Hey dude, regarding Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Armand_Navabi I have added some new stuff to the article and put a new source in (he was featured in a big computer magazine as well as Wired). I reckon the kid passes WP:MUSIC now. Wondering if you might reconsider your vote. Drett 02:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Visited. Just zis Guy you know? 11:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cycling icon

I hope you'll forgive the impersonal nature of this note; inasmuch as I've essentially the same message for four editors, I'm copying it to the talk pages of SimonBrooke, Mindfrieze, Guy, and Vclaw. In any event, a discussion was recently undertaken at Portal talk:Cycling as to the image used in Template:Cycling project (which discussion, I should say, seemed to be altogether a good one); acting boldly, and consistent with my idiosyncratic and obsession-driven attempt properly to refactor or format the sundry Portal talk pages, I moved the discussion to Template talk:Cycling project, where such discussion is more likely to invite participation from others interested in the topic). I mean not at all to be indecorous, and so if one of you should revert, I'd certainly understand, especially inasmuch as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling, another page at which such discussion might belong, seems generally moribund. Joe 04:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Responded there. Just zis Guy you know? 11:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lindsey German image

Hi JzG

Sorry you have been dragged into this stupidity. I will fill you in on the background.

The User “JK the unwise” is a long standing member of the Community Party of Great Britain. This group is characterised by its extreme sectarianism towards other groups on the left. JK has an obsession with Lindsey German. In July 2005 he travelled up to the Make Poverty History Rally in Scotland with a camera and proceeded to take as many pictures of Lindsey German and her partner John Rees as he could possibly fit on his memory card. People thought he was an undercover cop until I explained he was from the CPGB. Please have a look at the history page on the John Rees article to see the image he has been trying to upload for the last year and you will get some idea of JK’s agenda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Rees_%28UK_politician%29&diff=66274898&oldid=66274544

I do not bother to talk to JK because he is not serious and will simply try and pretend he is being reasonable. All he cares about is posting unflattering images of people whose politics he hates with a passion. It is sad but such is the nature of the CPGB.

Don’t waste your time trying to reason with him. He has only one agenda.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fashion1 (talk • contribs)

Monitoring the article. Just zis Guy you know? 21:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pensacola Christian College

It appears that we were simultaneously editing the Pensacola Christian College article after 68.209.195.2 raised objections to information in the Accreditation section. After reviewing both the edits where the info was originally inserted, as well as the resulting discussion, I opted to move most of the material in question to the talk page pending verification. I tried to keep most of the info you added on Christian college accreditation and TRACS. Please accept my apologies if I inadvertently stepped on your toes (or edits). --Kralizec! (talk) 13:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Responded at article Talk Just zis Guy you know? 21:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Deletion of Celeste (VelvetGeisha)

How come you nominated this page for deletion? The author of the site hasn't even been given time to write his case of why it shouldn't be deleted. Also I have also found more sites on Wikipedia that is of the same type that has been there for ages without getting deleted (like Masuimi Max) so what makes this article any different? Please respond as I would greatly like to hear your thoughts on this matter. I run the official fan club of that actress btw.. She may not be up to Masuimi Max's status yet but she has a fan base and we don't understand why the article on her has to be deleted.

I nominated for deletion via AfD because User:Ryulong requested deletion, which you contested but without giving any reason. To unclutter CAT:CSD I moved it to AfD, as I usually do. Your being aparently a single-purtpose account also gives an impression that this subject is being promoted. The picture has a copyright issue. Just zis Guy you know? 16:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't had time to write any reason as there is a time difference and I have been at work. What do you mean by single-purtpose account? I am only just beginning to edit and post at Wikipedia and have edited 2 articles so far (one being the one on Celeste the other on Kurt Nilsen altho I am having problems with the picture I uploaded from the fanclub page.) As for the picture copyright issue I have permission from the copyrightholder and have added this to the tekst under the picture as of now. If it makes it better I can hand over the article to another member of Celeste's fan club so he can edit it if my status is in question.

AfD takes five days, you have plenty of time to fix the article before it finishes. See WP:BIO for the kinds of evidence people are looking for. The meaning of single purpoise account is in the linked document - calling yourself velvetgeisha looks a bit sus, under the circumstances. Not that it's necessarily a problem, as long as this is not a role account, which is verboten. Don't worry, you'll get used to our Wiki-ways soon enough :-) I'll post some helpful links on your Talk page. Just zis Guy you know? 16:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The account acctually was Celestes but was given over to her fanclub as she never used it. I should have made my own but I never thaught about it. THink I should make one for myself to avoid further problems in the future maybe :) And all tips are most welcome :)

Regarding Ektron CMS400.NET

Something is screwed up with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ektron CMS400.NET. It appears that your nom was appended to an earlier closed AfD, and that after your nom it was speedily redirected and deletion out of order. I've slapped an {{at}}/{{ab}} pair on it, but you may wish to review/revert. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 21:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks. That happens sometimes - I use Jnothman's AfD helper and if there is no AfD notice on Talk to give a clue, previously deleted articles sometimes get appended like that> I usually fix it but I guess that must have been about the time the hub mail server went offline :-) Just zis Guy you know? 07:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to your comment about WP:SCHOOLS

In regards to the following comment you made on AMIB's talk page:

Good idea but doomed to fail. The usual suspects are already sabotaging it while simultaneously asserting that they will never accept it. Just zis Guy you know? 21:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Talk about bad faith. And to think I just joined Wikipedia a few months ago, and already people like myself and over a dozen new people who signed up at WP:EiC in the last few months are being lumped into "the usual suspects". I understand you guys may have been here since the dawn of time (in terms of Wikipedia), but give everyone a fair chance, will you? --Stephane Charette 01:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go and read the previous discussions. I recall two excellent compromise proposals and a number of other good ideas all of which were rejected out of hand because they were not "keep all schools". Those of us who were looking for ways to cover schools without violating WP:V and WP:RS and without being a mere directory were repeatedly called deletionists, although no deletion was ever proposed, only merging or transwiki. The most common mantra as I recall was "all schools are inherently notable", which is proof by assertion. I'm happy to take part in the debate, but I have no confidence in a good result because for some people this is a religious issue: no school article may be anything other than a separate article. Even when it's been shown that the article was a hoax, some schools inclusionists have voted keep at AfD simply because the article had the S word in the title. In no other area do we have defence of articles which are simply a restatement of the article title, or a copy and paste from a directory. it is an anomaly, but some people are determined to keep it so. See my old school for a school which I consider borderline notable. Just zis Guy you know? 07:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted your userpage

User:I love ytmnd added a userbox to your page [6]. I can only assume this was without your authorization and I have reverted it. If you would like me to refrain from reverting vandalism to your userpage in the future, just say the word. —ptk⁂fgs 11:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh! Amusing. Yes, it was without my consent but full marks to him for at least keeping the silliness out of mainspace :-) Just zis Guy you know? 11:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Fast work :-)

I try my best :) — FireFox ^(talk) _{12:29, 03 August '06}

Ready for archiving Just zis Guy you know? 08:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Irate

I must admit straight off that I do not know the details of this case, but, based on what I do know, I have suggested that User:Irate be unblocked, as long as they commit to Wikipedia policy. If I am way off the mark, then please say so. You will find the discussion here:

Wikipedia:Long_term_abuse#Banned_User:Irate

Thanks. --Mais oui! 19:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about that, but the trad counties mob are really begging to be taken down a peg at the moment. Just zis Guy you know? 20:35, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Pombo

Could you semi-protect Richard Pombo from vandalism? C56C 22:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IP vandal is blocked Just zis Guy you know? 22:22, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

5RR

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Miniclip&action=history
I didn't want to jump through the hoops, saw you were active. =D --mboverload @ 22:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, blocked. Just zis Guy you know? 22:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Israel_sucks
Put tag, forgot to block --mboverload @ 22:22, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, and thanks for being on duty =D --mboverload @ 22:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Already blocked, username. Just zis Guy you know? 22:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:SirIsaacBrock back again?

Hello JzG, could you take a look at Black Mamba (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? Here's a WP:ANI report about this user. I'd say this is our guy. Thanks. (→Netscott) 05:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel qualified to recognbise the pattern since I don't really know Brock's edits that well, but I will have a look. Just zis Guy you know? 08:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Attention seeking

If by trying to actively improve Wikipedia, you mean attention seeking, then yes attention-seeking is what I am doing. You know not my motives. User:Dfrg.msc File:DFRG. MSC.jpg 08:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For one who is not attention seeking you do a very fine job of, well, seeking attention. Just zis Guy you know? 08:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Than' you Sir. User:Dfrg.msc File:DFRG. MSC.jpg 01:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind

I've got to get some sleep. I withdraw the proposal. --List Expert 12:12, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seems a bit extreme. There is nothing wrong with making a proposal, as long as you proceed on the basis that all sides of the debate are acting in good faith. Just zis Guy you know? 12:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Applying the WP:CORP criteria for products and services

Bose Headphone Family (AfD discussion)

UKPhoenix79 has cited several independently sourced product reviews in magazines, to demonstrate that the products satisfy the WP:CORP criteria for products and services. Please revisit the discussion with an eye to determining whether the WP:CORP criteria are satisfied by these published works (and any others that can be found), and thus whether fixing the article is a matter of cleaning it up using sources other than just the advertising and press releases put out by Bose itself, rather than deleting it. Uncle G 12:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed. I don't see the applicability, Bose already has an article after all. Just zis Guy you know? 08:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The applicability is that they are products that are manufactured by Bose, and thus fall within the remit of the the WP:CORP criteria for products and services. ☺ The intent is that we don't have individual articles for every individual product made by every individual company on the planet (Think about all of those companies that make screws, for example.), but that we do include notable products or product ranges. Uncle G 14:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for user-space undeletion

Some time ago, I contributed a short article on Dorcas, a character from the Book of the New Sun. While a fairly minor character in a somewhat obscure book, I thought having the material I placed there easily available to other readers would be useful. The protagonist, for example, already has a significant article. (The book is famously impenetrable; it's sort of SF's Ulysses, if you will.)

Anyway, someone disagreed, and nominated it for deletion. I didn't log back into WP in time to see the warning, so now it's gone. I'd like to make a case for its restoration, which I'll likely do When I Get Some Extra Time, but more pressing than that is my own desire to have a copy of what I wrote there. Would it be possible for you to grab it and email it to me, or place it in my userspace, or something? You're listed as someone willing to do user space restorations....

Thanks very much in advance. The article was called Dorcas (Book of the New Sun). --Chetfarmer 17:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

best, chet farmer / chet at nogators dot com

Done. Just zis Guy you know? 18:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! --Chetfarmer 19:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Threatening me

Read my userpage. I dont take lame threats from users like you seriously. By the way, I'm re-adding the NPOV tag as other users like User:Incorrect have also stated that The Guardian is anti-Semitic and the article is biased. Tchadienne 16:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Read my userpage: I don't make "lame threats", I am a rouge admin - my threats are real and substantive. Just zis Guy you know? 16:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Touche. You've really got me scared now. I'm shakinggggggg. Why dont you read [7]? Or is he not qualified? Is that your argument? Because this looks qualified to me. Tchadienne 16:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you serious? I'm really trying to stretch WP:AGF into believing that you didnt look at the history of his userpage and see that that was vandalism. User:ArbiterofTruth added that. Jeez. I cant believe your even an administrator. Tchadienne 16:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm serious. I don't give a toss what anyone else has done, what you are doing is edit-warring over uncited content. Just zis Guy you know? 18:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Lostpedia

Thanks for your message. Yeah I'm fully aware of the history of the page, and have read the logs about the review etc etc. However, I still think its a worthy article but I shall look for sound evidence before making a challenge to Wikipedia --Nickb123 II 17:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but bear in mind that if you don't actively work on it in userspace it's liable to be nuked; holding deleted content in userspace can get people in trouble, but if they are showing a good-faith attempt to fix the cause of deletion that's generally OK. Just zis Guy you know? 18:11, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, got it. From reading the original format, I appreciate the initial reasons for flagging up the article. However, I think with a more suitable format that isn't "shameless advertising" as one user called it, an appraisal could perhaps be carried out at a future date. I am thus trying to fix the cause of deletion and so hope the content can stay for the moment under my talk page. Thanks for the advice --Nickb123 II 19:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe. My view is that a brief paragraph in Lost is all that's needed, this is pretty much standard for fan forums. Just zis Guy you know? 20:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help, and I apologise if I was brass, I appreciate that you are just following Wiki policy that's established for a reason. However, I still disagree with the deletion (which is obviously a view I'm entitled to have) and will try to campaign for a revert on the delete. Thank you for your help, and I will lodge my protest in a formal manner abiding by Wiki rules. Thanks again --Nickb123 II 20:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. It's fine do disagree, policy is there so that all us folks who disagree can get along anyway :-) Just zis Guy you know? 20:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I get that. I've got some arguments together and written them down. I'm just really following the WP:WEB guidelines and looking for more source material that reference the site in order to give validity to my proposal. Other than that I guess the only other things I can do is provide an article alternative if someone was to request it. When I'm done, I should post my initial request in the deletion review right? I know you don't agree with Lostpedia having an article, but if you could give me any line of enquiry to go down that'd be greatly appreciated --Nickb123 II 21:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disappointed

Very disappointed that you deleted my whole comment (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Teenage_Fanclub&oldid=67630366 ) without making any attempt to refactor it. As it says on the RPA page, "Removing an entire comment is almost always poor form" and this holds true for this case. In future, please notify me via my talk page and maybe we can come to some agreement as to the content to remain. Deleting entire comments out-of-hand smacks of censorship with no attempt to understand the parties involved. Or as the RPA page states, "Altering another person's words -- even when well-intentioned -- invites accusations of censorship and misrepresentation. Moreover, because removing personal attacks is itself a controversial guideline, any instance of doing so invites further controversy about whether it's appropriate." I am always happy to enter into polite discussion about (virtually) anything, and feel that this would have been a far more productive way of dealing with any personal attack (RorI) --Scottbeck 18:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have nothing against you making a fair comment, but see little if any productive purpose to adding a crowing comment to a long-dead debate. What role did your comment play in building a great encyclopaedia? Just zis Guy you know? 18:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So you removed the entire comment cos you didn't like the content and flagged it as a RPA? Do you think that would be appropriate on Talk:Israel or any other page? Why/Why not?

Crowing is not a personal attack! "I'm right and you were wrong" is not a personal attack and is a perfectly valid addition to a talk page (from observation of many). The approach taken by the other party ("Well, i edit lots of articles so I get to say what goes into the wiki and I will remove anything i dislike" sound familiar?) definitely deserved an answer, even long after the fact, and some small reinforcement ensure the truth was understood by the other party. I am a reasonably longterm wikipedian and the reason that I have stopped editing articles (except for obvious misprints) is my utter disgust in those who will shout (edit, remove) over any words which they don't want to hear instead of reasonably and logically discussing the issue and coming to a reasoned solution. I see many people take this course, including far too many admins. So I don't edit many articles, feel little sense of ownership and don't donate much of my time/money to building a greater encyclopedia. Your act of removal instead of negotiation only further reinforces my disappointment in the failure of wikipedia as a colloborative community.--Scottbeck 18:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was a gratuitous and unhelpful comment, so I hit Rollback. It's a blunt instrument, obviously, but as I say I don't see any benefit to the project from your comment. Just zis Guy you know? 18:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's your prerogative as an admin, i guess, but I'm still disappointed in the lack of discussion and the flagging of the entire comment as RPA. But I've had my say, and will continue to refrain from actively editing. Thanks for further convincing me--Scottbeck 18:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Acadamenorth

You really need to unblock that guy. He was blocked once, which caused my IP to be autoblocked for the 6973769379379th time this year. I told the blocking user, and they unblocked. Now another block! My IP is switching back and forth between the Acadamenorth one and another one, which is why I'm able to edit at the moment, though I wasn't several minutes ago. Mad Jack 18:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Classic AOL collateral, but that is one disruptive user. Just zis Guy you know? 18:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tchadienne

Hi. I fear this user may have issues dating from his former identities at wikipedia. He has placed a NPA template on my user talk page, although I have been nothing but civil to him. Do you think it would be ok to remove it, as it was clearly placed there inappropriately? Well done for your block of him. --Guinnog 18:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

will remove it. Just zis Guy you know? 19:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! --Guinnog 19:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the AN/I Discussion

(Carreid on from the discussion here- [8] I really have no desire to get invovled with this dispute. However, I found the above statement- "I think it's not exactly a secret that some people accuse anybody who is not completely uncritical of Israel of being antisemitic" was inappropriate to bring up here. Since it very much relates to divisive and emotive issues. Your comment was needlessly inflammatory.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 22:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is relevant and speaks directly to the case at issue. Just zis Guy you know? 22:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't see why you would even get into all that on the AN/I. Also, While it is a common accusation that people are accused of being anti-semitic if they criticize Israel, you would be hard- pressed to actually find instances of non-fringe Jewish organizations accusing someone only for criticizing the country. Regardless, I think it was only nominally relevant to the discussion and I would never have even paid attention to the dispute if I didn't see the snide and inflammatory remark that we are currently arguing about.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 23:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I went into it on WP:ANI because it is the root of Tcadienne's problem. He accuses The Guardian of antisemitism because The Guardian has printed reports critical of the Israeli government. That is not antisemitism. Just zis Guy you know? 08:20, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

=Various things

A bunch of things at once:

1) From above: you would be hard- pressed to actually find instances of non-fringe Jewish organizations accusing someone only for criticizing the country No, non-fringe Jewish organizations and/or their supporters first apply a heay coating of rationalizations to explain why the people they're name-calling are just crtiticizing Israel. See "New anti-semitism, a favorite recent rhetorical club.

2) Socfan: it's one thing to conclude that a brand-new user from the same country as a banned user, who only has posted during times that the banned user has been blocked, is not, in fact, the banned user. But it's another thing to use language which is complete bollocks, like I think we all recognise was unfairly tarred with the Socafan brush. One, I'm not convinced; two, it was a reasonable suspicion -- note also his Socafan-like singling me out for "censoring" him, when I was the THIRD editor who had reverted him in the trolling he complained about -- go check the history); three, using loaded anguage like "tarred" is, frankly, insulting. If you want make nice to new editor, try to do so without hitting others in your backblast.

3) Tchadienne: He's evading his ban, posting on my Talk page to drum up support for his edits to The Guardian. Apparently, he believes I'm an enemy of yours AND an admin (I'd also appreciate an immediate unblocking of my account), the latter despite the clear message at the top of the page. FWIW, I think his edits to page are also complete bollocks, so he's going to have to look elsewhere.

Sorry for the multiple subjects.

User:Acadamenorth

It is extremely imperative that you either unblock this guy or do something else about this - because - the autoblock on my account consistantly returns (I'm writing this because I don't know if it will vanish soon or not). It is incredibly and pointlessly frustrating to be autoblocked every once in a while, as I have been so persistantly throughout this year. Mad Jack 06:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well? I was blocked again all this morning. I simply categorically refuse to be autoblocked any further. Mad Jack 17:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is an absurd statement; you can refuse all you like, the fact of dynamic IP users being caught by autoblocks is a long-standing one. I am trying to find out how to alleviate the problem. Just zis Guy you know? 20:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it's an absurd statement, yet I am never the less making it. :) I haven't got the autoblock in the past several hours, but that may just be temporary. Though, of course, I hope not. Mad Jack 22:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actively trying to find out how to minimise this collateral damage. Just zis Guy you know? 22:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual Freedom League

Hi Guy : - ) I left a comment on the Afd. Looking at the article I noticed that it was started by Amorrow using the sock Pinktulip. Morrow and Sloan made most of the content edits. Since a banned user started and made a large number of the edits, one option may be to speedy delete and immediately start over using verifiable reliable sources. Strange as it may seem, if the article is a keep I recommend this route. FloNight ^talk 13:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also left an opinion in th AFD page. I think there's a very thorny issue here. Sam Sloan seems to be an aging guy who was at the core of this and now wants his historical due. I sympathize, but the problem is, he is himself a "primary source" and therefore not possibly NPOV. But his page, that was removed from links, has a *lot* of baby in the bathwater. From his page, we get this link:

http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf967nb3x9

So, there are objective sources available -- sloan says they once were available online, but no longer. the OAC says:

Collection Title: Sexual Freedom League Records Contributing Institution: Bancroft Library Collection Dates: 1962-1983 Items Online: None online. Must visit contributing institution.

I'm about the same age as Sam Sloan, was active in "counter-culture" during the same periods. I think the material is historically important, and Sloan was central. His book, "Sex Marchers," was co-written with the SFL's founder. If Sloan lacks an understanding of the Wiki and how it works, that's not sufficient reason to excise him from history...that's not NPOV. Bustter 19:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sloan understands perfectly well, he just suffers from m:MPOV :-) Just zis Guy you know? 20:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe so. Larry Flynt is no prize, either, but I wouldn't leave him out of the history books. Berkley's sexual feedom movement (at least as the contemporary media viewed it) was a direct successor to Mario Savio's Free Speech Movement, so it's not non-notable. The irritation Sloan has caused here may be the greater threat to NPOV than his inflated idea of his role. Bustter 20:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

your opinion sought at WP:LIST talk

I've made a proposal here, and am seeking feedback. Best,--Anthony Krupp 14:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uh Oh

Take a look at User:NOBS. --Guinnog 19:21, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No surprises there, I guess... Just zis Guy you know? 19:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You forgot to add your signature on User talk:NOBS! Don't forget next time. ;) Tchadienne

The User:Tchadienne incident

Hi! It’s OK to be frustrated about the whole thing, but venting the frustration in an edit summary—especially one for an administrative action—is not so great. If it’s any help, keep in mind that letting a troll provoke you is an admission of defeat. —xyzzy_n 22:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I know. But let's be honest, registering another account to evade a block is fuckwittery... Just zis Guy you know? 10:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sympathies. I guess I'd recommend you stop rising to the bait on his talk page -- conversation with this fellow has rarely solved much. (But then, I'm on his hit list, so I suppose I'm biased.) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 17:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, not only am I on his hitlist, I'm now on Hivemind! Apparently I have been hiding behind a secret identity in order to harass people. Or something. Just zis Guy you know? 17:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, that's always been a goal of mine... sabotaged at least in part by my total anonymity and lack of a photo, I guess... —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Awnsering

I respectfull disagree here, Guy. I know Tchadienne a bit better than you, and in his 9,000 edits has always been a staunch opposer of pov-pushing. Even the Guardian was born from legitimate concerns, the too apologetic tone of the article, even if the solution, a criticism section, was probably not the best way too solve the issue, and Tchadienne took it too personally. But as I said, I know quite well Tchadienne's edits, but maybe you'll inform me that all his edits with very few other editors in central Africa was part of a secret agenda. I think that from his edit history Tchadienne should have earned some respect from the community, and please remember that WP:BLOCK when speaking of controversial blocks says: blocks of logged-in users with a substantial history of valid contributions, regardless of the reasoning for the block. Cheers,--Aldux 22:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In this case he is insisting on inserting uncited material and apparent WP:OR. Which is fine, we all have opinions. He edit-warred over it, which got him a short block. Which is fine, it happens to everyone. Then he started repeating the edits from anonymous accounts (quite openly) and taunting admins for failing to prevent him continuing to pusah his POV. Which is not fine and got his block extended. To which his response was to continue editing anonymously and then register a new account, which again is not fine. There is nothing controversial about briefly blocking for tendentious edits, and there is nothing controversial about resetting and extending blocks when an editor blatantly evades a valid block. I understand this is not the first time he has behaved in this way. We have a number of users who have a long history of problematic editing, blocks and such - User:SPUI springs to mind. As long as they accept preventive blocks and don't try to circumvent them, this is cool, they can continue to contribute once the dust has settled. But block evasion is bad - always - and when it's done in this style it's very bad. Just zis Guy you know? 10:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bicycle helmet

Hi JzG. I would like to contribute to the cycling helmet article and make it more neutral. Please do not blanket-revert my edits.Prospect77 15:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are most welcome to contribute and I liked some of what you did, but the problem was the removal of too much material, much of it cited, all at the same time; I tired working through it but it was too hard fopr my poor overworked brain :-( I agree that there is a good deal too much opinion there, I suggest we work together to fix that a bit at a time. See you at Talk :-) Just zis Guy you know? 15:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm making big changes, I often do it a piece at a time so people can revert just the bits they dislike more easily. Stephen B Streater 16:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem hewe was a fairly rapid series of such changes which had the effect of completely altering the tone of the article from a sceptical bias (which did indeed need fixing and more cites) to a pro bias, with citations to some very dodgy sources. As far as I'm concerned the scientific method applies: the proposers of an intervention must prove their case. Here, they have not - the predictions from the only type of study to show benefit have never been realised in any real population. The only study ever to show benefit in a real population was another case-control study. The case-control article describes quite nicely the problems with this kind of study. There aren't many areas where I consider myself particularly well-informed, but this is one of them - having had my assumptions challenged, I went out to find out more and now have a collection of a little under a thousand documents of one sort and another, including all the major studies. Just zis Guy you know? 16:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I always get very hot in helmets. I look forward to reading up on it all :-) Stephen B Streater 22:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some of my document collection is on a private extranet server, drop me an emu if you want a login. Just zis Guy you know? 23:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocking Tchadienne

As the original blocking admin, I'm inclined to remove Tchadienne's block now that he/she's settled down. However, you placed a range block on 4.249.0.0/16, which I would prefer not to remove without your approval. Would you be willing to do so for now? Ral315 (talk) 17:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy enough, I was just stopping him evading your block. He does appear to have climbed off the ceiling now, although is still very obviously labouring under a substantial burden of misconceptions. Just zis Guy you know? 17:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JzG. I see that you haven't yet removed the range block you posed on Tchadienne, since Ral315 is for unblocking, and I had interpreted your exchange with Ral as meaning you agreed, could you do it? I would be grateful, and don't think the range is needed anymore, as yourself said. Cheers,--Aldux 15:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will do it, I had assumed Ral was going to. Just zis Guy you know? 15:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

deletion of smartassembly contributions

Hi,

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly :-)

I understand. 1) Can I try to insert the links for example: http://sharptoolbox.com/categories/code-protectors-obfuscators , or is it too commercial too? 2) Can I try to create a 100% neutral smartassembly page, as another user, only stating what it does?

Thank you for your help. --Smartassembly 18:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Extenrla links are worse, perWP:EL. Sorry. our best bet is to see WP:SOFTWARE and see if you can establish the importance of the product; also you need to study some other articles and the links at the top of your Talk page to see how to write a properly neutral article. User:Stephen B Streater is in my view very proficient at writing neutral articles, his advice may be worth seeking. Just zis Guy you know? 18:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting matter

Hey, I'm having some trouble formatting a DRV request on for Category:Pseudoscientists. The title section doesn't want to show up. Any help from the Hivemind would be appreciated. Thanks. JoshuaZ 21:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. Got dealt with. JoshuaZ 21:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Why is linking to Wikipedia from your own website considered spam? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.50.86.162 (talk • contribs)

It isn't. Linking from Wikipedia to your own website is considered spam. See WP:SPAM and WP:EL. Just zis Guy you know? 09:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Why are Fair use images not allowed in userspace? Feedyourfeet 20:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a copyright thang. Fair use applies to illutrsting the subject only. There are some people who specialise in this, User:Geni is particularly clued-up if you need a pointer. Just zis Guy you know? 20:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

School accreditation

Please review School accreditation. CaliEd 21:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hyles

Vivaldi (talk · contribs · logs) has returned and started making Hyles edits. User removed all notice of the ongoing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Vivaldi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.197 (talk • contribs)

Diffs? Just zis Guy you know? 22:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Church [9], reply to you[10]

Nazi moon base

The humor of Wikipedia having an article about Nazi-related UFO activity, with reference to a book by "Commander X", doesn't escape me, but that's pretty much how any paranormal concept is going to look to skeptical minds. I found more book citations in the Nazi mysticism article, which with the Zundel book and the Serrano and Terziski stuff show that it's not merely one person's theory. Being able to document the marginal as well as the conventional is Wikipedia's strength. Gazpacho 22:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For what value of marginal? We deleted aetherometry. Just zis Guy you know? 22:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A delicate issue

How does one approach an editor whose English may be poor, and who appears to be taking material from somewhere (or writing it) and running through a machine translator? This isn't a handful of articles to clean up, it's dozens. [11]. Editor is clearly well-meaning, but none of these are readable English. They look like babelfish results. Fan-1967 22:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]