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Good Article nomination is on Hold

I have put this article on hold for Good Article Status.

if the following concerns are addressed in a week's time, this article will be approved for GA status.

This article is well on its way to being GA material. There are just some things that bug me about it:

  • Some sentences are random and misplaced:
    • "The main plot revolves around Naota's exploits with Haruko, and are more an exploration of Naota's adolescent coming of age."
    • "The series has been broadcast on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim block numerous times, starting in August of 2003 - the first time it was broadcast on American network television."
  • both of the above sentences contain good information, but both appear at the end of their respective sections as if they were randomly tacked on. The second sentence does not belong in the introduction.
  • The fourth entry in Production Trivia is repeated information which is already present in the style section. pick one place for this information.
  • much of this article needs to be cited, inline, with ref tags. Especially the trivia section.

The Talking Sock talk contribs 17:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have failed this article for WP:GA for the following reason: it is unstable - too many substantive edits in the past 7 days. Please consider renomination a week after the WP:AID edit frenzy has stopped. - Davodd 18:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FA

I'm attempting to bring this whole category up to FA status, or die trying. Here's what we have and what we need. -Litefantastic 16:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, and would like to help out in whatever way I can. This article does need a lot of work, but I think it can reach FA status. Blademaster313 04:01, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Right on! I've also added Items and Concepts of FLCL, which, hopefully, can be used to explain what the hell is going on. Assuming that's possible. :) -Litefantastic 23:24, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Litefantastic, are your going to be updating your table here? I find it really useful and I would like to know what else has to be done. Thanks. Blademaster313 02:27, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I second that. The table is extremely useful. I would do it myself however I would be a little hazy on the exact status and needs of each page. --Gunblade (dicemus) 19:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, but I'll do so now. -Litefantastic 00:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Name Status Needs
Episodes
Fooly Cooly Whole, needs light reworking to remove residual feel of oddness Tinkering to better encompass the subject. Remember: this is the episode that shoves everything down our throats, and the other five are largely to help us understand.
FireStarter Whole The "analysis" section should probably be either rewritten or shafted.
Marquis de Carabas (FLCL) Whole Light tinkering
Full Swing Whole A picture or two
Brittle Bullet Whole; needs polishing A picture of Kamon as a Nazi. This one moment probably ties the South Park sequence later in the episode for Weirdest Moment, and we need to commemorate that. Also, please clarify: "Unfortunately, the violent nature of the N.O. traps both Naota and Mamimi high atop a towering robot."
FLCLimax Whole Needs pictures
Albums
Addict (soundtrack) Pretty much set Could possibly be made longer
King of Pirates Complete but too short Needs an explanation on the radio dramas and the picture from the back of the album. The soundtracks are being ignored in this movement of ours.
FLCL No. 3 Unclear Probably could use some light editorial work
Templates
Template:FLCL Pretty good May not require any further work.
Template:FLCL-ep Finished! I'm open to suggestions, but it looks good to me.
Other
FLCL On its way Needs to be better structured and have more international information. And more pictures, too. READ: Wikipedia:Peer review/FLCL
Characters of FLCL Done? Tinkering can never hurt, but this looks good.
Items and Concepts of FLCL A lot of work Probably the weakest article in the series. Needs a little bit of everything. Someone suggested a section on cats, too. Caution: This article is not intended to be a repository of symbolism - it is simply supposed to explain some of the things that go by too fast for the casual viewer to see.

The Ending

Is anyone sure about what the ending suggests, other than Naota's coming of age? Naota tells Haruko that he loves her, but I'm not sure if these are his or Atomsk's feelings. Haruko leaves her bass with Naota suggesting that she won't look for anyone else to help her find Atomsk. Has she given up on looking for Atomsk, or does she plan to return to Naota when he's older? Does this suggest that she has feelings for Naota? I thought that I had a good idea of what it all meant for a while, but after watching FLCL again, several times, I've been thinking about it more and I'm even more confused. 87th 19:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The confusion you are experiencing, as near as I can figure out, is the true meaning of FLCL. It is vital to the spirit of FLCL that we have some people say "I don't get it!" so that those who are amused by it can respond, "There's nothing to get." --Yar Kramer 20:33, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm very familiar with the 'open ending', but I was wondering if there was something I had missed out on. Obviously not.87th 22:57, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, I disagree, what do you mean nothing 'to' get? No one can really know, and regardless of what authors intend, characters are independant of it. Let's surmise! I don't think it was Atomsk's feelings, because Naota obviously had feelings for her throughout the series, plus Atomsk has never really shown any interest (or knowledge) or her prior to then. He changed back into Naota from Atomsk to tell her his feelings, so they're his... I'm not sure if she'll come back. I doubt she'll leave him forever, but probably wants some more adventures before checking in, much like her prior eyebrows friend.Tyciol 07:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think the ending just says everyone goes their separate ways and life goes on. Haruko may have feelings for Naota (she smiles and gets a little flustered when he says "I love you") but she's not ready to give up her rouge lifestyle for him, and she knows that he's too young to go with her. She leaves for the same reason she came: pursuit of Atomsk. And Naota goes back to his "ordinary" life. I think it'd make a great sequel/second series to have Haruko come back when Naota is an adult. She apparently had been to Earth once before when Amarao was a kid. It'd be interesting to see how different Naota turns out from Amarao, and how different he would react to Haruko coming back. I think that's what Haruko is hinting at when she says "You're still a kid, Takkun. Save it for next time." But until they make a sequel (which they probably won't), we'll just have to accept it as the end of the adventure. It's kind of sad that Haruko and Mamimi both leave Naota, but he learns that he's not as alone as he thought he was. The scene with Ninamori and the boys getting drinks at the bridge shows that they have taken the place of Mamimi in his life.

Also, throughout the series Naota keeps his room very neat and tidy when Haurko isn't around, but the very last scene shows his room to be pretty messy months or possibly even years after Haurko left. Plus, it shows Naota plucking a note on Haruko's bass, as if showing an interest in learning to use it. The series more or less portrayed Amarao and Haruko as two opposing role models-- one embracing a "right brain" way of thinking and one embracing a "left brain" way of thinking. I think this last scene is showing us that Naota is headed down the path of becoming like Haruko.--68.188.66.195 08:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I always thought that Haruko giving the Bass to Naota was a sign of her giving up on looking for Atomsk. She can't access the N.O. in someone's head without it (or am I wrong?). Doesn't the end show the bass string moving without anyone touching it? I don't know what that would signify. I think the scene of Naota hanging around with his classmates signifies him moving on from Tasuku and Mamimi, and finally being able to have fun with people his own age. Up until this he always looks a bit out of place until he's talking to Haruko. 87th 22:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it shows Naota acting like the kid that he is, rather than an adult.
I don't think that Haruko really needs to access the N.O. in anyone's head to track down Atomsk. That was all Medical Mechanica's doing. Haurko was just more or less helping it along, because she knew it'd be a lot easier to get to Atomsk whenever they got done building whatever they were using his power to build. (That's my assumption anyway. I don't fully understand all of that.) Besides, she doesn't leave guitar-less. She takes Naota's Flying V and Atomsk's Gibson EB-0 (which somehow in their fight merged into one dual guitar.) In the end, they don't show Naota playing the last note. I guess it's possible that it's just a weird quirk they decided to end the show on, but I always just assumed he's lying on the bed where we can't see him. I figured they did it because they wanted to add to the dramatic/comical/weirded-out impact by surprising us with it on the very last second.

For some strange and off the wall looks at stuff that happened after the last episode, look up the translations to the drama tracks on the second soundtrack. They're all pretty heavy pieces of "let's not make sense for a while," but they're interesting, to say the least.--68.188.66.195 06:31, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The whole "left/right brain" thing above got me thinking on why Haruko can only use Naota instead of Amarao or Kamon. Naota is shown in both ways of thinking at different points in the series, while the other two never alter in their thinking (Amarao is always logical while Kamon can be as erratic as Haruko). The fact that Naota is suitable for using an N.O. portal and has much more potential than either of them might reflect this. JONJONAUG 16:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Userboxing

For those of us with userboxes, I've created this:

FLCLThis user's head is an N.O. channel.

which you can add to your user page or talk page either with {{User FLCL}}, or, if you are using a 'filing box', such as the one from Wikipedia:Babel, you can just add it with "|FLCL|"; see my user page for an example of this. -Litefantastic 20:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FLCL.gif

Image:Flcl.gif is a little big to put on this article.. if I do say so myself.
Does anyone agree?--Isequals 22:53, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not only do I agree, I think we really don't need an animation to begin with. --Yar Kramer 07:04, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That, and it has a DivX watermark. Should we remove it? --Isequals 22:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean the whole image, yeah. If you just mean the watermark ... I don't think it's possible. --Yar Kramer 00:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I, too, agree that the gif is superfluous. It's a pain for people with slow computers, and it doesn't add anything encylcopedic to the article. I think I deleted maybe five similar gifs out of articles on characters from Beast Wars merely because of the long load time and the fact that the image is not that important to the article. Ryulong 21:56, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So god damn. I guess I'll finally remove it. Sheesh. --Isequals 07:51, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But that gif was the coolest thing about the FLCL article :( --SeizureDog 22:46, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hamtaro

When does the anime ever make a reference to Hamtaro? I'm not sure why that's in there...so if no one speaks up I'll remove it. Tyciol 20:06, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I beleive there is an audible reference to it by one of the characters, or perhaps a plush that appears in the background. Something like that. I'll watcha few episodes and keep an eye out for it. --Isequals 03:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Episode 6; Kamon tentions it just as everything starts falling apart in the background. -Litefantastic 16:40, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, just before the terminal core eats Miya-jun's car, Kamon mentions Hamtaro. Parrot Fish 02:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hamtaro is the name he gave to the hamster. He says early in the chapter that the hamster -class pet- died when he was 12, and it was his fault but he was too young. In spanish versions of FL CL they translate that as "Hamsty". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.43.35.104 (talk • contribs) .
OK I'm sorry, I'm not signed in that's why I didn't signed. Mi count is in the spanish wikipedia (RoRo) and in the english wikipedia it's already taken, and I don't want to have different names in the different wikipedias (and I only speak spanish really :P) --200.43.35.104 21:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reception Section

This reception bit is just plain odd. It only talks about IMDb ratings, as if that's the most valid way to judge. It reads: The reception for the series, although not widespread in the United States, has been enthusiastic. As of April 2006, the shoes has cleared the 1,250 vote barrier on the IMDb (which classifies it as an OVA rather than a TV show) with a rating of 8.8 out of 10. If it qualified for the IMDb Top 250 (which it does not: despite having enough votes, miniseries, TV shows and video releases do not qualify) it would place between fourth and sixth on the list. We don't know at all that it would qualify around 5th place since there are literally hundreds of other shows/miniseries/video releases that might beat it out. I think this section should be deleted and replaced with something a little more thought out. Zepheus 05:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I noticed that as well. However, I went ahead and deleted that comment for a different reason. Only votes from the top 1000 voters are counted for the top 250, and the top 1000 voters' score is a mere 6.8 right now, not nearly good enough to put itself into the top 250, let alone the top 10. (The 250th movie has a top voters' score of 7.4 atm btw)--SeizureDog 22:44, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure that only the Top 1000 voters have say over the Top 250. I can't find that stated anywhere. -- Zepheus (talk • contribs).
Ok, maybe I'm wrong about how they system actually works, as it's confusing. But the score to get on the 250 is different from the straight score I know that. quick example. Has an 8.0, but not on the top 250. So yeah, other factors involved, so I perfer to just say that it's based on the top 1000 voters. At least you can still see that score. --SeizureDog 19:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The editor was speculating. Remember, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. -- ReyBrujo 01:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Who are you telling that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball? Zepheus 06:39, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I thought that was clear. "The editor", as a reply to "I can't find that stated anywhere.". In other words, the editor who added that paragraph to the article. -- ReyBrujo 00:21, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Manga

I think the page on FlCl (manga) should probably be made into a redirect here. The manga is covered (inadiquately, but succinctly) on this page, and that article is a little rough-hewn. -Litefantastic 23:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ding ding ding....

Is it just me, or is the dinging at the railroad crossing (in the episode one and probably elsewhere) the same sound clip from EVA (I don't remember exactly where -- it has been awhile)? Could someone confirm this; I think it would make for good trivia. Dan 21:05, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"EVA"? -Litefantastic 22:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Neon Genesis Evangelion. --Yar Kramer 01:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it certainly reminds me of the clip you hear all the time in EVA, but its not necessarily the same clip, just a recording of the same trains, which are all over Japan, and like trains in most countries, have a similar sound to let everyone know that "Hey, a train is coming." Films shot in the US that have train sounds will all have the same train sounds, for instance. I don't know if its valid trivia or not.
Also, I think I've heard the same sound in Lain, and a few others too... The chirping cicada sound (reee, reee, reeeeeeee) is another one that I hear in a lot of anime, Lain and EVA, for example. They may or may not be the same clip, but are certainly recordings of the same thing. Phidauex 02:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
All movies, TV shows, and video games often use sound effects from the same pool. Very few actually bother to record their own effects. Unless a SFX is as famous as the Wilhelm scream there's really no reason to mention it at all. --SeizureDog 21:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Gainax tends to reuse a lot of their sound effects, some of which are just recorded from actual sources, so I agree that it shouldn't be mentioned in the article. 67.160.30.127 01:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FLIctonic KLIpple Waver Syndrome

In the manga version of FLCL, Haruko diagnoses Naota with FLIctonic KLIpple Waver Syndrome, whuch she claims is "a purely psychological adolescent epidermal ossifying syndrome." She later admits that she made this up, but I see it is called "Flictonic Clipple Weber Syndrome" in the anime. Is there any significance to this change of name? Mayuko 16:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prolly just the fact that the manga and anime had different translators. She pretty much says that about the syndrome in the anime, too. Sort of. --Yar Kramer 17:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well that syndrome do exists, in the anime version they spelled it correctly, you can find information here: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/cgi/mesh/2006/MB_cgi?mode=&term=Klippel-Trenaunay-Weber+Syndrome
It's not "Flictonic" as Haruko says.
If you understand spanish, you can find that same trivia and more here:

http://www.animesubs.org/muestra_subtitulos.php?proyecto=Furi_Kuri

Haruko's Bass

Is it a Ric 4001 or 4003? I'm not a bass player so I wouldn't know but please make a decision in the talk page before putting conflicting information in the main article. It sounds like two people arguing in the main article about what it is.

Characters

In accordance with Litefantastic's table, I added some pictures to the character page, and explained in further detail on the characters discussion page. Blademaster313 00:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marquis de Carabas

I added the template thing from the other episodes onto the Marquis de Carabas page, and filled in the relevant information, as well as a picture. I'm not sure about new characters though, if anyone could check for errors, as I'm new at this, or help with this page it would be much appreciated. I'm not really a writer myself, but I would like to contribute as much as possible. Blademaster313 03:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fan AID

  • Alhough I've already added the template at the top of the page, I figured a little extra sales pitch here can't hurt: please vote for FLCL at WP:AID. For those of you who don't know what that is, AID stands for Article Improvement Drive, and once a week they take the article with the most votes and make it their official cause until the following Sunday. Please vote for FLCL there, and maybe we can push this thing all the way to Featured Article! Just think of all the good things that could happen if this was linked from the front page! -Litefantastic 17:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Full Swing

For the summary for the epsidoe Full Swing, there are no references to it being from another source. Did someone on Wikipedia actually write that? It looks like an engrish summary from the back of the dvds or the website or something. Blademaster313 22:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Masashi and Gaku

I added summaries and pictures for Masashi and Gaku in the characters section. If someone could add to the summaries, as they're rather short, it would be appreciated. I also filled out the information for the templates in the episodes that were icomplete. Blademaster313 23:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Screen Captures?

Would it be inappropriate adding a screen captures site that has hundreds of images of flcl? The site doesn't have ads on it nor does it profit from anything. It just has lots of screenshots from the series? http://nandaba.net/city/ --67.187.124.148 17:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Massing the troops

Squillibob and myself have recently finished independently evaluating the FLCL family of pages in terms of the Anime/Manga Wikiproject. They stand as follows (but may change):

Addict (soundtrack): Start
Brittle Bullet: Start
Characters of FLCL: B-Class
FireStarter: B-Class
FLCL: B-Class (pending reevaluation as a Good Article)
FLCL No. 3: Start
FLCLimax: Start
Fooly Cooly: Start
Full Swing: Stub
Items and Concepts of FLCL: Start
King of Pirates: Stub
Marquis de Carabas (FLCL): Stub

The articles in most desperate need of help are MdC, I&C and Full Swing. Items and Concepts is new and still poorly constructed; MdC simply hasn't been written yet and Full Swing, though eerily comprhensive, is written in a style reminicent of talking to someone next to you in a bar. -Litefantastic 23:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

Could we get a few more series pictures for this page? It looks kind of empty right now. -Litefantastic 00:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of pictures are we looking for? Blademaster313 22:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just a couple of "difinitive moment" pictures, and something from the manga. Amazon.com has the cover; I suppose we might use that. -Litefantastic 02:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also: A picture of the MM building, a good robot fight action sequence shot, and the back cover for King of Pirates. That picture (Image:KOP.jpg was overwritten. -Litefantastic 02:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is this pic okay for the Medical Mechanica building [[1]]. Its from the first episode.--Gdo01 03:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming it's licensed properly: yes, that will do nicely. -Litefantastic 14:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some pictures I just uploaded. If they can be used, that would be great, and I'll continue to get more. If there is anything else specific, please specify. Thanks. HarukoCanti.JPG CantiTransformed.JPG Cantiandnaota.JPG FlyingAtomskta.JPG Handcowboy.JPG Harurobot.JPG Mamimicamera.JPG Kantivsarm.JPG Naotaeat.JPG Atomskta.JPG

Blademaster313 02:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


Worldwide

The International Wikibox on the side of this article mentions that it is a counterpart to articles in ten other languages. Can we look into these for an "international" section? -Litefantastic 02:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here we go:

German: Of no obvious use.
Esperanto: Likewise. Eerily, appears to be a translation of the English version. It's both creepy and cool(y) to recognize something you've written, in another language.
French: Note with interest their release dates conflict with our own. Could this information be used to compile a global release table?
Íslenska: Pictures! We can use these! And if someone here speaks this language, perhaps the text as well. I particularly like the picture of Haruko with the guitar over her head. Not because it's in any way useless, but because she looks strikingly like the Hawaiian Punch guy.
Italian: The "curiosita" section bears a look for all of us who took Latin in drafty rooms a million years ago. In particular: "Nel febbraio 2006 la Gainax ha confermato un seguito per FLCL, senza dare ulteriori informazioni a riguardo." Wasn't that rumor kicking around here a while ago as well? More release date data.
Japanese: Unless someone here speaks Japanese, of no use to us.
Polish: Appears to be just a fact list, and I think we have all these facts.
Portugese: Likewise.
Russian: The large picture here would make a fine replacement for the odd one we have of Mamimi cradling Naota while Haruko waves. That's already found better use elsewhere anyway.
Svenska: Stub, in dire need of "Hjälp."

-Litefantastic 18:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel

Although I'm sure most of you don't need reminding: FLCL will be airing, in its entirity, tonight starting at 11PM EST on Cartoon Network. Please pay special attention to Marquis de Carabas; the plot summary for that article hasn't been written yet-Litefantastic 16:15, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I just recently added an extensive plot summary to Marquis de Carabas. However, I would still encourage watching the episode as you may find things I missed or be able to explain events better. --Gunblade (dicemus) 19:05, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

Come on, doesn't anyone actually own the DVDs? I'm quite positive that there's a commentary track on it that can be of use. At least I remember one when I borrowed them from a friend. Also, someone needs to fix the references section, it's all bold and ugly.--SeizureDog 19:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review Status

These are our problems, as viewed by an outsider:

From: Wikipedia:Peer review/FLCL

"*Over half the lead is about something called 'adult swim'. This is not en-US.wikipedia - or pretends not to be.

  • No meaningful references, #1 uncontroversial fact, #2#3#4 meaningless as 'reception' indicators.
  • Too much list and opinion-prose, not enough actual encylopedia content.
Feel free to ignore all this though, it's perfectly possible to get an anime article featured that deals only with North America. --zippedmartin 00:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)"[reply]

-Litefantastic 00:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AID votes

FLCL (28 votes, stays until September 15)

Nominated July 28, 2006; needs at least 28 votes by September 15, 2006
Support
  1. Litefantastic 22:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Blademaster313 03:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Gunblade 21:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Fluffmuffin 01:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Payneos 16:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Merovingian - Talk 16:43, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  7. --Valepert 16:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  8. JQF 17:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  9. C-squared 17:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Gdo01 17:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Ivvan Cain 17:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Kuroki Mio 2006 19:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Jake52 19:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  14.  Laura S | talk to me 19:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Ariolander 19:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  16. The S 19:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  17. PhilShady 22:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Crazysunshine 04:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  19. FLCLFan 04:17, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Dark Magician 03:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  21. DanPMK 08:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  22. ZaphodBeeblebrox 15:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  23. HeartOfGold 17:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Dave 02:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  25. ShortLifeLived 05:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  26.  T.K.  TALK  07:12, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  27. Draicone (talk) 09:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  28. Sasuke-kun27 17:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Case for

A unique cult anime whose article has recently bloomed into a host of separate pages and is ripe for a mass overhall. It's largely complete, if rather densely worded, and could use some fresh people tooling with it. -Litefantastic 22:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even though the total has been met, I'll add my vote for insurance. Jake52 My talk 19:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise here then. While already a B-Class article it could use a freash outlook besides the people who have beenw orking on it alread. Ariolander 19:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Naota's adolescent sexual coming of age."

I disagree with that statement. FLCL is about Naota growing up, but sexual coming of age? dposse 03:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well ... the basic purpose of puberty aside, while Haruko's behavior usually has sexual overtones towards him, and the baseball ep seems to have "metaphor for losing your virginity" written all over it, particularly in the ... er ... climax, but you're right, it isn't literally "sexual coming-of-age" that I can see. --Yar Kramer 04:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, it seemed to be more about Naota's general coming of age rather than a sexual coming of age.--Chad Hennings 14:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My point exactly. Growing up means becoming a man, and that includes sexuality. FLCL is about Naota growing up. So, how should we change it? dposse 18:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, and changed it. Just removed the word "sexual" and the rest of the sentence still flows just fine. -- Laura S | talk to me 18:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

episodes

"The total run-time for this show is three hours with commercials, and with the credits cropped off the final episode."

Can we get an official time as to how long the anime is from start to finish? If anyone has the DVDs, they could help. dposse 18:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, people of Wikipedia!

I'd like to personally thank all of you who answered my call and rallied for FLCL! Ladies and Gentlemen, we have one week... the drive begins now! -Litefantastic 23:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC) Actually, the drive began about ten minutes ago, but this is close enough for me.[reply]

Head picture

I think I've found a suitable picture for the top of the article: [2]. The same picture comes as wallpaper at adultswim.com, and in regular form on the Russian FLCL article. What do you think? -Litefantastic 23:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fun while it lasted: Time to sack the trivia section?

As pointed out on Wikipedia:Peer review/FLCL, the trivia section kind of undermines the article's encyclopedic intent. I question this: I've used Microsoft's Encyclopedia Britannica 2001, and IT had trivia. The trivia section definitely needs an overhaul for credibility (it can't be good to have a link to a messageboard) but is it time to go altogether? -Litefantastic 23:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. As long as we keep it Encyclopedic, it should be able to stay in the article. dposse 17:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Trivia section is full of some great information, although I agree it's awfully list-y. I think it just needs to be reworked into prose (some of it may need to stay in list form but certainly not all of it), and then maybe integrated into other areas of the article. Then the Trivia section could go away entirely or at least be significantly reduced. It's possible anything that can't be worked into the article really doesn't belong there. The bit about undermining the encyclopedic intent probably comes from discussions I've seen in which people question the value of a Trivia section. That would keep the content but satisfy those who don't like to see a Trivia section. Sadly this would be a large effort and I just don't have the time :( -- Laura S | talk to me 18:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I decided to be bold and try to clean this up a little. Some of the triva made sense in other areas of the article, so I moved them. I merged Title and Translation into Language since they really discussed the same thing. At this point I'm looking at the Characters trivia section. This is true trivia and if it belongs anywhere it would be the Characters article. I like the "left-handed" bullet point but the rest probably don't belong. I'm going to try to deal with that next. -- Laura S | talk to me 02:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok cleaned up the Characters section. The trivia section isn't perfect still, but hopefully it's a lot better. -- Laura S | talk to me 02:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! -Litefantastic 22:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Document your pictures!

Those of you uploading pictures to the FLCL family of articles should add them to Category:FLCL images. To do so, just type "[[Category:FLCL images]]" into the edit summary. Also, alphabetize. For instance, if the picture's name is Image:A1-FLCL.jpg, type "[[Category:FLCL images|A]]" into the edit summary. -Litefantastic 23:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can we get some N.O. pictures?

We need some pictures demonstrating N.O. The horn would be good; also, something emerging from Naota's head. -Litefantastic 22:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Psychology

I remember that there used to be a VERY good link in the link section that broke down every last little detail of the psycholgy and innuendo in Fooly Cooly. Does anybody have that link or something like it? 65.4.40.82 22:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kamon is not a Nazi

i think someone has to clarify that part, it looks like he puts those clothes on all the time. Kamon only dress up as a nazy when playing the sort of paintball game, like we were cowboys and indians when we were kids. It's just a joke, ok a VERY dark humour joke (today I sign my post, oh well, I really should sign up in the english wikipedia). --200.43.35.142 03:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cats

I feel that there should be something on the cats in Fooly Cooly. There's the Nandaba cat that Haruko seems to use to communicate with her superiors, and Ta-kun the cat which abandons Mamimi for a white female cat. 65.4.40.82 23:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The name is NOT debated to be Medical Meccanical

Come'on, that was just a spelling error. Please don't put that on the page any more. If you had seen anime and japanese movies it should be obvious to you. Japanese people is horrible with english, that's all. 200.43.35.253 16:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mamimi is NOT "appear to be homeless"

I did an extensive explanation about this point in the backup talk page. I think you should remove that phrase or at least explain a little better on the character's page that she doesn't "live" under the bridge. 200.43.35.253 16:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

kids bludgeoning their parents to death with baseball bats

"unsourced statement - positing a string of kids bludgeoning their parents to death with baseball bats needs to be sourced" <--- in fact that's false. In chapter 4 commentary track Tsurumaki says he had the idea of having Naota hitting his father with the baseball bat "because" of that series of cases. People from the staff told him it would be problematic, and they changed it to this final script. 200.43.35.134 23:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who here saw Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?

There's a scene near the end, where Indy, having survived massive troubles with minor damage, is staggering around going "water! water!" because he's thirsty, and then, without even breaking pace, goes "water! water!" because, as it turns out, there is a massive torrent of it coming toward him out of the cavern. I bring this up because that is exactly what is happening to us here with pictures.

Category:FLCL images currently has 27 pictures in it, not all of which are linked to by anything. There may be more floating around; I recently discovered a whole cache of FLCL pictures and added them to the category. Not to burst anyone's bubble, but we can't possibly need all of these, and I'm beginning to think we're veering dangerously close to violating the Fair Use policy we're operating under. I believer the following images could be sacrificed with little or no loss. To uploaders - wait, I've just realized none of the pictures in the "characters" section have been archived. Excuse me, I'll come back to this. Feel free to start without me (Hint: we most likely don't need all four pictures of Mamimi). -Litefantastic 00:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We currently have 39 FLCL pictures, or roughly one picture for every three and a half minutes of video in the series. This could be some kind of record. At any rate, we still don't have all the pictures we need, and it's time to start thinking about the ones we may not need. Feel free to add to or contest my nominations. -Litefantastic 22:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need

Kamon in his uniform
The horn in Naota's head
Back cover from King of Pirates

Sacrifice(?)

Image:Handcowboy.JPG: Currently not linked to by anything, it's not entirely clear what this is supposed to be.
Mamimi.JPG: I currently know of four pictures of Mamimi (not counting group shots); this is probably the least useful.
Image:Kantivsarm.JPG: A little out of focus, not linked to by anything and not illustrative of any key moment in the series.
Image:HarukoCanti.JPG: By no means a bad picture; the only flaw here is that there's no way to display it in an article at a size that will show all the detail. Perhaps a higher-resolution version, cropped just to show the little crowd at the center?
  • I agree with these. I am the one who uploaded them, but I didn't see any real use for them at the time, and if there still isn't any, I say delete. I just uploaded an N.O. example picture as well. Should I fix the HarukoCanti image? Blademaster313 03:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quick review

This has been in the trivia section for as long as I can remember:

There are examples of scenes in which Naota yells out "Tasuk--"; the Japanese audience, at first assuming that he will exclaim "Tasukete" (help!), may be surprised when he instead says "Tasuku," the name of Naota's older brother.

Is it Naota who says that, or Mamimi? -Litefantastic 01:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should add this translation notes?

Found here: http://www.synch-point.com/production/flcl/flcl-notes1.html Maybe what are you calling "Trivia" should be calling "Translation notes" and the rest should go with the characters section. I don't do it myself because I'm horrible with english. 200.45.167.54 05:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Leaving

I'm going on vacation tomorrow, and won't be back until Sunday or so. Good luck with the battle! -Litefantastic 01:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eyebrows

I think that the eyebrows Amarao stuck on Naota when he told him "cats should stick with other cats" could be a sort of symbol of them both being abondoned by Haruko, since when she showed up again, the eyebrows fell off of Naota. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.185.108.212 (talk • contribs)

True. And Amarao himself, for that matter, in the first episode where he shows up. —Yar Kramer 16:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Closing out the AID

I'd like to thank all of you who stopped by for the Article Improvemnent Drive, and although I believe we still have quite a ways to go, I also think we've made an immense amount of progress. -Litefantastic 21:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another run at GA

Since the editing frenzy has pretty much died down, I'm going to renominate us for Good Article. From there, we can make the last few crucial improvements and modifications to boost us to FA! -Litefantastic 18:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure it's ready for GA? I'm not sure we've covered everything from the peer review (not that we need to, just that it would help). I'm especially concerned about the intro and references. The intro just needs a little more summary info - not just a plot summary. I would take a stab at it but I won't have time to give it serious attention for a few days. I'm not sure what to do about references; most of this material can be taken directly from watching the show. There are things like "a common mistake viewers make" which should probably be referenced, but I wouldn't know where to start with that. Either way, I think a GA review will bring these items up. On the other hand, we have made significant improvement over the past week, so kudos! -- Laura S | talk to me 19:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly incorrect edit?

I don't think that the statement in this edit is correct; can anyone confirm this? -- Laura S | talk to me 19:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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