Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chiricheppu
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- PLEASE DONT DELETEChiricheppu is a magazine with large readership which includes the cross-section of the society.across the country it has readers including myself a malayalee living outside kerala.the fight chiriheppu has been indulged with the anti-social elements had brought immense wrath of the same.we,the readers, are behind you in your triumph and request you to not bend your knees before these malacious gossips and sabotage.jijujohn
- Dont Delete - what is the ground for your suggestion for deletion of an article about the cartoon magazine. chiricheppu is the one and only Political Cartoon Magazine in malayalam.why you are fighting against cartoons and cartoon magazines.we wikipedians are consider that you and your friends are acting as the tools of some nasty politicians who are totally against Chiricheppu .I think this magazine is working as a terminator which destroying anti-social elements in the society.Afer Asadhu and Sarasan magazines Chiricheppu is blooming laughter in the minds of malayalam readers. malicious intention to defame a magazine surely comes under the provisions of cyber crime.search for the details of judgement of keralas firstly filed cyber crime in pathanamthita district court. --Adv. sreekumar, High Court, kochi
- Instead of resorting to thinly-veiled policy-violating legal threats and assuming that there's an agenda here, consider improving the article to include verifiability from reliable sources. --Kinu t/c 16:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Dont Delete -I love walking in the rain Because nobody can see me crying....Chaplin .Did this word touched any heart?Every smile has a story of tears behind... .We the loving readers of chiricheppu tries to realise this truth. go ahead ......No one can delete you from the minds of readers.why people are becoming so much monster-eyed sadistic . why we have to put off the streamig lights of virtue.remember friends....it is very easy to desroy.but creaion is devine and difficult
Nileena joseph,a great fan of poetry and cartoons
- Delete. non-notable, unverifiable vanity. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 13:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. I'm still not seeing any demonstrated notability; there are some claims, but I'm not sure if it's backed up. A scant 65 ghits [1], the top result of which is en.wikipedia, and several of the upper results appear irrelevant to this context; zero hits at gnews [2]. This just doesn't seem to have a very big footprint, to me; sorry folks. This isn't a commentary on the comic, I'm sure it's great and I hope you enjoy it, it's just that we don't really have room to write out an article on every comic ever written -- there has to be a line, somewhere, and I'm not yet convinced that Chiricheppu has passed that line. If you'd like to try and change my mind, it would be wise to link to various websites which will support your points. Thanks for your time, everybody, and have a good one. Luna Santin 13:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - Please note that Google do not have reports about Non-English entities. Also most of the Indian media and personalities are not covered by English Media and not covered by GoogleDoctor Bruno 03:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as per Luna Santin. There are no sources where this could be verified.—♦♦ SʘʘTHING(Я) 20:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete in this form and if verifiability is not fully achieved after this discussion ends totally non-notable and non verifiable. The so called advocate from high court who has supported this seems to have no knowledge on wiki norms and seems to be a sock puppet. Also the remark on political interference is a general sickness of all malayalees. Whenever something happens which we do not like in kerala, we blame it on politics and the "hidden political hand". So these arguments are very stupid. Wiki cannot be controlled by such sick thoughts. Also the argument on "malicious intentions to defame" is silly as the magazine as such has no repute in the first place! Here all wikians have a right to defend what we feel and this does not paramount to any malicious intentions to defame and is outside the purview of any court.Since the editor of this magazine himself put this article here there is no case of "malicious intention to defame" as nothing objectionable has been published against him or the magazine here on wiki. I doubt this Sreekumar is an advocate. If he was he would not have made such foolish threats. Let him make such observations in the court. This is cyber space not a court! If he is so passionate on what he reads let him provide verifiable proof on the claims that it has 50000 circulation and such. This magazine does not have any state or national repute. It is just one of those yellow journalism magazines. Wiki is no place for such magazines. There are thousands of such magazines in Kerala. If all the editors of such magazines start to adverise their own names and their magazines on wiki we all would have to hang our faces in shame. Request to the advocate to come up with more solid material on web for supporting his claims. I will surely rethink my opinion if this article is well supported by the end of this discussion, instead of silly hollow claims. If you are an advocate prove it by doing some research and work on collecting evidence. See how the artcle on Pradip Somasundaran was retained after the [discussion] gave way to the much needed evidence.Take this for encouragement. GlueWhale 02:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete - non notable Doctor Bruno 03:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)Changing to Keep - I spoke to few guys in AIMS and they know the magazine and the cartoonist very well.Doctor Bruno 10:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
'Don't delete'.....because the cartoon lovers accepted the magazine as their pulse to gag the society. Chiricheppu stands as a good social worker to keep every malayalam readers in smile. We are using it as a panacea for every tensions. We don't forget their endievour and contributions in the field malayalam publications. So my suggession is that do not cancel the grate canvas of our cartoonist and the laughing canvas of over mind. Rajkumar Kuruppu59.93.8.209 10:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: From the above comment, one would think that those recommending deletion are trying to get rid of the cartoon itself instead of the article. At any rate, unfortunately, without any sort of verifiability as to the claims in the article, it cannot stand. I suggest spending more trying looking for sources indicating any sort of notability, rather than trying to sway us with anecdotal generalizations as to how great the cartoon itself is. --Kinu t/c 14:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete -- if it was notable, it would appear in at least one newspaper report which should be googleable. Id it is in Malayalam, I'm sure our editors conversant in Malayalam can track it down online. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Comment - According to the Official Government of India website [3] this is a magazine published from Adoor. Hence that settles the verifiability part. The only question that remains is Notability.Doctor Bruno 16:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for that - the magazine does exist, which is a big step forward. That site also has a section for publishers claimed circulation but Chiricheppu doesn't seem to make any claims for itself. All the above established Indian editors seem agreed that it is non-notable so, unless some reliable sources can demonstrate notability, I'll leave the AfD nomination stand. I'll be happy to withdraw it if even a relatively weak demonstration of notability can be made. Dlyons493 Talk 17:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Comment- Dlyons, that it has been listed as a magazine is not the issue. Any indian magazine has to be registered with "Registrar of Newspapers" for official recognition and legality for publication in India. There are thousands of such magazines. So this finding is not big game. Even I have seen and read the magazine and have liked it! "Crime magazine" a yellow magazine is more notable than "Chiricheppu". So will we all support an article by its Propreitor tomorrow on Wiki? Wiki is not a place for self publicity and praise. It's also not a place for free publicity. There are norms here. We all should entertian articles only on wiki norms. There is no place for sympathy or it being good for health or society. Wiki works only on facts not on personal emotions. This is an Online Encyclopedia. Not a Malayalam Daily for putting ads! Do not forget this. GlueWhale 17:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per Kinu: lack of reliable sources indicating notability. -AED 20:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Can someone search for Audit Bureau of Circulation India's figures for this magazine. There is no stats on the web. Someone may have to physically search it . i.e. that is if someone has the report, please publish the figures for it over here. If it is selling more than 50,000 copies, then keep it, otherwise nuke it. I must add, when I was in Kerala, most children bought Balarama magazine, which must be the largest selling cartoon weekly in Kerala. --Ageo020 22:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I would also like to add that Adv. Sreekumar maybe User:Cartoonist jithesh. This link [4] which shows that the cartoonist S. Jithesh is addressed as Advocate in his home page and also his email shows this. The S in his name could stand for Sreekumar. --Ageo020 22:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete Very non-notable. I actually went and checked a few small book stalls in Ernakulam over the weekend to see what it looks like but couldn't find any. These sort of magazines usually sell mostly in bus and railway stations where the travellers pick them up for reading during the journey. I can tell you that as of 1.30 pm last Sunday, the book shop in the Ernakulam busstand had Hasyakairali and three editions Bobanum Moliyum among comedy magazines, but it had no Chiricheppu ! If it does not sell in the main bus stand in the largest city in Kerala I am surprised that it sells any, let alone 50000, copies. There is also a possibility that it had sold out everywhere, but that is a little far-fetched. Tintin (talk) 04:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Do not delete. it is crystal-clear that someone who have vested interest who are trying to attack and defame this cartoon magazine.all the people who have good reading habits know this magazine.balrama comes under the category of childrens magazine. not under the category of cartoon magazine.someone who commented here that chiricheppu is a yellow magazine.what a stupid comment.most of the commented person are introduced themselves as people from other countries such as ireland ,australia.someone are forcing them to comment on this people. how the people from other countries can judge a magazine in malayalam.we -the kerala people is familiar with this magazine.chiricheppu is the unique political cartoon monthly in malayalam language.someone thinks that defamation is not a crime in cyber space.calling a cartoon magazine "yellow magazine" is highly defamatory.the cyber crimes in the country were booked under the Indian Penal Code,(sec499and500) rather than the Information Technology Act. computers were used to commit acts of crimes such as defamation is punishable both under indian cyber law and indian penal code.any person has the right to edit wikipedia.but no one has the right to spread defamation against a reputed magazine.the aim of wikipedia is great.one who is doing research on the history of cartooning it is really worthy to read the article published about Chiricheppu in wikipedia.how many political cartoon magazines are now available in malayalam...? please tell me friends...!Only Chiricheppu.that is why we the readers of chiricheppu is against deletion.any type of imputations published will hurt thousands of readers of chiricheppu.recent defamation case on cyber space is also cited hereunder:Fighting cyber crimes
Conviction in a cyber case in Pathanamthitta recently has increased the confidence of the public to file more such cases, writes Anand Haridas(The Hindu news paper reports)
After a couple of arrests of foreign nationals on charges of spreading defamatory matters, more people are coming forward to file complaints, say city police officials.another case: TRIVANDRUM - The Kerala police have made a mark in dealing with cyber crimes with the arrest of a 45-year-old former pastor and his son in a case related to the alleged defamating the chief of the Indian Pentecostal Church T.S. Abraham by using the new technology. The former pastor, T.S. Balakrishnan Nair alias T.S. Balan, who was associated with the Sharon Pentecostal Church, was arrested from his residence at Perumbavoor by the Pathanamthitta Police for spreading defamatory matters about Mr Abraham and his family members, including his daughter, through cyberspace.recently both the accused were punished for an imprisonment of 7years.
Babupaul
- Comment: What does any of this have to do with WP:V, WP:NPOV, and WP:NOR? By the way, Wikipedia is not here for the people of Kerala, it's for everyone. And I'd cool it with the legal threats; it's doubtful that it's going to accomplish anything except getting you blocked. --Kinu t/c 04:27, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
DONT Delete.The vested interestsmhas been doing some foul play for deleting the contents.They should be banned from these henious work against a noble magazine.The notability and the reach of a magazine is measured through the popularity & its circulation,the credibility of the editor & management and its stand in social issues.in all these repects chiricheppu is at par with any magazine in india.Among the cartoon magazines, its a boon to cartoonists and readers comprising different tastes and intellect.whether the entertaintment part or the social cause,they have done their job magnificiantly.its the requiremnet of the generation that more people speaking different languages and lives across the globe be aquainted with this flag bearers of humanity.the reach & notability of the magazine is evident from the support its getting from the notable personalities and readers in this issueFundoomal 04:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Sure, a widely circulated and critically acclaimed magazine would probably be notable. But that's exactly the thing -- I haven't yet seen any evidence that this magazine is either of those things. Your claims would be far more convincing if you backed them up with links to reliable websites; please take a few moments to do so. Thanks. Luna Santin 05:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)