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If anyone has any time can they please check my Gary Sheffield article for grammer mistakes and things like that. Thanks a lot. I'm still in the works of writing it. Spatel2 22:57, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Looked pretty good already. I just tweaked a few things, like moving his pic to a more standard location, adding links to BB terms, other teams and players, and TSN, and fixed one or two typos. Oh, and I added his position and make his birthplace less US-centric. I'm not a big baseball fan and haven't editted many (any?) baseball player bios, so someone who has might be of more help in terms of things like whether it is written in a style consistent with other BB bios on Wikipedia--of course, if you've read or editted several you probably already have that down. Niteowlneils 00:06, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
You might want to try Wikipedia:Peer Review. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 15:40, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

Wikijunior

I have heard that people are discussing the new Wikijunior project. This is very different from the current Wikipedia model, and is more of an example of how we can use the abundant information we have here to serve various diverse audiences. For more information, see here. We're just getting started, and any and every bit of help is needed to make this a wonderful project. Danny 11:45, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Question

I did an edit before I signed up for a user name which ended up being kept on the page - is there any way I can get this added to the "my contributions" bit of my account in retrospect? Fairly insignificant edit, but it would be nice! Thanks. --Jaimzc 09:22, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit. There's usually quite a backlog though since only developers can carry out this task, so if it's just for one edit, it might not be worth the effort. Angela. 13:37, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

Not logged in when submitting an article

Hi there all, Wikipedia newbie here. I wrote the article on LogicaCMG, expanding it from a stub. I worked on it over a few hours, between doing other things. Anyway, when I submitted it, I was not logged in. I would like it listed in 'my contributions', how can I go about doing this?
Also, if anybody has any comments, suggestions, please feel free to impart them.
James
Log it at Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit and they'll get around to it.violet/riga (t) 14:50, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The article on Slank claims that they're one of Indonesia's largest rock bands. I checked allmusic and Ultimate Band List, but no hits in either of them. Nevertheless, the name gets many google hits, plenty in foreign languages. I don't know how to verify this article, and the somewhat fannish writing worried me. How are we to know if these guys are really notable? [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 23:44, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

Look at the Indonesian Wikipedia. [1]. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 00:59, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)


Israel

A filibuster is going on in Talk:Israel. I don't know how to end it. I don't know how to convince someone who is convinced you are wrong. I don't think it is in any way controversial to call the "Occupied Territories" the "Occupied Territories". I don't think I will ever get User:Jayjg to agree. I do think that if some other Wikipedians come in and state their view, that will get jayjg to stop reverting. Palestine-info 01:57, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You can end it by actually making some valid points for a change that are actually backed up with evidence. Jayjg 19:34, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
User:Jayjg's POV prevents him from accepting the internationally recognized term "Israeli Occupied Territories". He and his cohorts censor all information regarding the Israeli occupation because the extremist Israeli POV is to describe the territories that Israel occupies as "disputed territories" thus leaving open the possibility that the Jewish state will annex these Arab territories as they have illegally annexed territories in the past. It doesn't matter how much evidence is provided that these terms are widely accepted and internationally recognized. The extremist Zionist POV pushers cannot accept it. They do not want to admit that Israel has illegally occupied territory that goves Palestinian militants a reason to resist Israeli aggression and expansionism. They continuously deny Israel's crimes and atrocities, see Hasbara and Zionist Revisionism for more information. These partisans have created pages entitled Occupation of the Gaza Strip by Egypt and Occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem by Jordan but they refuse to acknowledge any page resembling Israeli Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza and redirect the Israeli occupation of Palestine to Israeli-Palestinian conflict where the issue is not discussed. --Alberuni 00:18, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Um, nice speech, but it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Jayjg 00:31, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Sure it does. Your promotion of pro-Israeli propaganda on Wikipedia is the problem. Just look at your User page.--Alberuni 01:14, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
My User page discusses an on-going attempt to fight extremist anti-Israel POVing of Wikipedia, of which you are a primary exponent. Jayjg 01:55, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Sure, what would Wikipedia do without you? You are a self-appointed defender of Israel and promoter of Zionist POV on Wikipedia. Naturally, you perceive anyone who does not agree with your efforts to bias articles with your extremist vision to be someone who is promoting an anti-Israel POV. You are not the only political extremist and religious fanatic here. There are about 10 like you, and some of them like User:Lance6Wins and User:MathKnight, are in your little gang pushing your ugly agenda, denying Israeli atrocities, smearing critics of Israel, using Wikipedia rules to deceive and distract readers from truths you would rather see concealed. It is repugnant behavior. --Alberuni 05:58, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Alberuni and the corresponding talk for Alberuni's ad-homs, Holocaust denial, anti-Israelism bordering with anti-semitism, etc. BTW, why still there's no action taken there? Humus sapiensTalk 07:32, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Alternative medicine

I was trying to archive the talk page but I could only move very small sections. The result is that the page looks very silly, a lot of stuf only exists in the page history and I can't revert the page for some reason. HelpGeni 04:18, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Problems with User:Vitaly

Hi, I recently added some independant comments to an argument that was getting out of hand at talk:Translation. I know find that User:Vitaly has a paranoid theory that everyone who criticises him (or her) is working together and has published a 'press release' on pretty much every page he has had anything to do with (see his user page for a copy). What can I do about this? I am not happy to have my name used in this libelous fashion, but I know that if I simply remove the press releases it will only make matters worse. Should official action be taken against this user? --HappyDog 18:08, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia has been deleted

Encyclopadia has been deleted, can somebody please revert it, and point me to the instruction on how its done. Its about time I learnt how. Apwoolrich 18:12, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Found the info on the Help page and fixed it. Case of reading the manual! Apwoolrich 18:21, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

With the size of List of Number 1 singles (UK) approaching 80k (though yes, lists are partially exempt from the size limit) it's time for this article to be split. I'm not sure how well the edit history would survive, however, and that's why I haven't done a manual move/copy/edit/etc.. I'd appreciate it if someone could split it into:

List of hit singles (UK) would be a disambig page (with List of Number 1 singles (UK) being a redirect to it). My plan is to write an overview of the main hits of the decade with the number ones being the main aspect. Any discussion prior/in objection to this would be appreciated. violet/riga (t) 22:56, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

WP:CFD cleanup needed

WP:CFD has gotten about a month behind on its cleanup procedure, and the page is getting rather long and unweildy as a result. I just did a first round of cleanup - mostly a large number of very small, quick things. The cleanup process is well documented - the instruction page is linked from the top of the page. In this case it mostly just requires you to judge the outcome of the various discussions and then move them to the appropriate place. It can actually be kinda fun; it just requires someone to sit down and devote some attention to it. -- Beland 03:22, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Can we get an admin to fix this template? The NOTOC reference doesn't actually do anything. The problem has been documented on Template_talk:CompactTOC2, but no response. Thanks. —Mike 05:18, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)

Adding sections to a Template page

How an editor sets parameters when invoking any template is poorly documented, and only after spending several hours searching and experimenting, was I able to figure it out. To save time for others, I tried to add some material (now located in Template talk:Book reference) to Template:Book reference, the main page for the template I wanted to use, but when I saved my edit, it (1) spawned several repetitions of itself onto that page when displayed, and (2) caused a table of contents on the page, and (3) also spawned all of the comments (repeated several times) on any Wikipedia page that made use of this template. Naturally I removed my additions from the Template:Book reference template page as quickly as possible, and have put them into Template talk:Book reference for safety and the information of others.

Sooooo... how can one put examples and other help onto a template page so that an innocent user looking at that page can take advantage of it, without that additional matter affecting the operation of the template itself? StanZegel 07:41, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Headers which are embedded in templates, etc. cause problems in later editing, in that section editing tends to edit the wrong section. It's usually not a good idea to embed headers in embedded text. RickK 08:20, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

Moving Kitesurf

Could an admin please move Kitesurf to Kitesurfing, it's much more common, and in line with Surfing. Kitesurf should be a redirect to Kitesurfing. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 14:43, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)

(--note:this has been solved by someone. ✏ Sverdrup)

Can we use Images from other Wikis?

I'd like to use in the English Wikipedia some images that exist in the German and Dutch Wikipediae. I've tried various constructs, but nothing seems to work. I'd like to use, for example Afbeelding:LocatieTexel.png from the Dutch Wikipedia on the Texel page. How can I do that? StanZegel 23:05, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You have to save them and re-upload them to the English Wikipedia first, but you can use them, assuming that they are public domain or GFDL or whatever (and if they are being used on other wikipedias, then they probably are). I think there is a common area for images being set up, but I don't know if it is working yet. Adam Bishop 04:34, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
See Commons. You can't link to commons images from other projects yet. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude\talk]] 07:00, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

I am trying to determine the copyright status of the photo of Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb on the Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Ritter_von_Leeb. I would like to use the photo in a book I'm publishing, but I am not certain if the photo falls under Wikipedia's copyright rules. I can find neither an author nor any photo copyright information in the article. Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks very much,

Geoff Megargee gpmega@yahoo.com

The photo is listed as public domain - take a look at that article.
Extract:
While copyright was designed to give a (financial) incentive to the creator, works in the public domain just exist as such. The public have the right to use and reuse works in the public domain without financial or social burden.
violet/riga (t) 11:34, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Getting Started?

How do I get started? Clownfish 18:41, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hi and welcome! Take a look at the Wikipedia:Tutorial for details of how this all works, or just dive in and be bold editing some pages that take your fancy. Any questions you have, well you're in the right place already! violet/riga (t) 18:46, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

John Cleese information. The cheat from home star runner.

When will their be more John Cleese information? The cheat has a gold tooth. Clownfish 19:13, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Search does not find "Mr. Natural" but it's on the R. Crumb page

I tried to search for "Mr. Natural" and got zero results even though the character is mentioned in the R. Crumb article. Is there a way to insure that a search for "Mr. Natural" will get a hit on the R. Crumb page? Dennis (talk) 21:33, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Searching for "Mr Natural" (no .) finds a few articles, but "Mr. Natural" doesn't. It would appear that the "." causes problems in searches. violet/riga (t) 21:38, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Pronunciation guide? Need UK heteronyms, too.

I've begun a List of heteronyms, words spelled the same which have different meanings when pronounced differently. Several issues:

  1. In the list, showing pronunciation is essential. I can locate no standard Wikipedia guide to indicating pronunciation, though. Know of one?
  2. I've split the list into American and UK-derivative English, because I expect substantial differences in the list. I don't want to be U.S.-centric, but risk inherent bias by listing the common-to-all-English examples in the U.S. list, and the ones unique to non-U.S. English in another list. Avoiding this will require one who is familiar with two or more idioms, or collaboration--and different category names, I suspect. Suggestions?
  3. To get the list going, if you know any often-used non-U.S. heteronyms, drop over and add them, please.

--NathanHawking 22:32, 2004 Oct 29 (UTC)

I wrote a simple pronunciation markup guide, referenced on the List of heteronyms page. I also created a British version (Pronunciation (simple guide to markup, British)) using the American version as a foundation, but it needs to be extensively edited. (See below.)--NathanHawking 22:35, 2004 Oct 31 (UTC)

Contents list for page

Hi, I'm new to this but have done some minor edits on pages others have put up & done a few pages of my own.

I'd like to do a contents list for one of the pages Chew Valley Lake which has several sections. I've looked in help etc & can't work out how to do this.

Any help appreciated.

Rod

When an article has 4 headers it automatically puts in the Table of Contents at the top. I've added "==Location==" near the top and this has put in a ToC for you. For your information the article may be a little "Point Of View" at the moment (describing things as beautiful where some may disagree) but I'm sure someone will change anything they feel needs it. Thanks for your contributions - they're very welcome. violet/riga (t) 11:32, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

when do changes appear?

I've tried adding a link to a page in "Jainism". After saving the page, my new link (to a page that does not yet exist) does not appear in blue/red.... Is there a delay before this new link is updated?? Thanks

The link you tried to make is not valid wiki markup. You did this:
[[jain temples--''derasars'']] shows as jain temples--''derasars''
You might have meant one of the following, or something similar:
[[jain temples]] [[derasars]] shows as jain temples derasars
[[jain temples]] ([[derasars]]) shows as jain temples (derasars)
[[jain temples]] (derasars) shows as jain temples (derasars)
Basically the ''derasars'' part makes derasars italic and stops link from working. Hope that helps, if not you could try the help pages. violet/riga (t) 22:38, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Forgot username and password

Sorry for this newbie-ness... I created a user name and password, and successfully logged in and edited a couple of articles. Now I am unable to log back in, I don't remember the login name.

Some data: my name is Gonzalo Diethelm, and my e-mail addresses (under which I would be registered) are gonzalo.diethelm@aditiva.com and gonzalo.diethelm@diethelm.org.

The likely usernames would be gdiethelm, gonzalo.diethelm, gonzalodiethelm, gonzo, gonzus.

Please help by replying to my e-mail address. Thanks,

Gonzalo

Article needs a language-oriented British-English speaker or two

  • Pronunciation (simple guide to markup, British) needs a language-oriented British-English speaker or two to convert the very nice American beta version copy of this I've placed there as a foundation. Needs someone willing to watch it, too, especially after other articles begin to reference it.--NathanHawking 07:32, 2004 Oct 31 (UTC)

Could somebody take a look at Jeans? An anon has been spending a lot of time adding weird information about "jeans and water rescues". It seems like more User:Glogger weirdness. RickK 21:39, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)

I think I found spam, but am not sure. Help.

In Prostitution in Nevada, I think I found some spam. But I dont realy know what it is. I want to bring it to your attention. It was made by user Special:Contributions/68.70.45.158 and here is the revision in which that user added it http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Prostitution_in_Nevada&diff=6509923&oldid=6509892. I dont know what to think of it, but it seems some kind of add or spam or PR statement or something. I am semi-new to wikipedia, so can someone also tell me where I should post this kind of stuff (group/public opinion if it is vandalism/spam or not?)? also what is the wiki way with [[link]] to link to old revisions or histories? Patcat88 23:02, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Definitely spam (they added it twice, too). Might someday be notable, but isn't now and if it were we wouldn't cover it in such a promotional manner. I've deleted it.
You did a perfectly good job here of linking the change. If you want to link a particular version rather than a change, just bring up that version and copy the resulting URL. -- 23:47, Nov 1, 2004 (UTC)