User talk:Camembert

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Hi Camembert, my reply is at Wikipedia talk:What it thinks it is. --KF 10:45 Feb 9, 2003 (UTC)

As someone who has previously contributed to music-related articles, consider this a cordial, engraved invitation to participate in the discussion at List of songwriters/temp. I think this page can actually be useful instead of a random list of songwriters, but more input is needed. Tokerboy 03:17 Feb 12, 2003 (UTC)

Nice work on the Vivaldi/Four Seasons page... I seriously need to work on my formatting abilities. Thanks a lot. :) - Goatasaur 02:52 Feb 13, 2003 (UTC)

I'm terribly impressed with you zapping Braunau am Inn Austria before I'd even got round to formulating a request. Do you do party tricks and guess the contents of people's bags an ting too? :) Nevilley 22:35 Feb 17, 2003 (UTC)

PS A Grand National winner a couple of weeks in advance wouldn't be completely unwelcome either, know what I mean, guv?

Goldberg: Well, I think I do mind. I was actually quoting from Williams! I'll think about a different way of formulating it. I'm impressed by the list of arease you attend to. I'm currently working on parts of speech and scholastic philosophy, mainly. BevRowe

Sorry, I couldn't remember what piece it was from but wanted to put that in because I was studying it only last week (I'm talking about the Passacaglia page, in case you're mystified. Olivia Curtis 18:29 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

Okay. I wasn't fast enough. While I was writing in talk:glove, you already merged the two. would you read my comment on the talk page, though? Perhaps you could advise me.

Arthur 03:34 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

Camembert,

Your advice seems sound to me. I'll leave glove alone for a few days and then if no one objects, will brutally cut the unedited encyclopedia stuff at the end of the article. Keep an eye out.

Best wishes,

Arthur 00:13 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

Nice work on Gilbert and George! :-) -- Tarquin 14:05 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks, tarquin :) --Camembert

Hi Camembert. I saw your high level of disambig work just now. Surely you are using a script of some sort, would you mind sharing your secrets as I would also find something like that very usefull. Thanks, --snoyes 20:29 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)

Oh dear, I've been mistaken for a script! I've responded on your talk page. --Camembert

Wow. I'm speechless. --snoyes 20:52 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)

Yah, Ill clean it up eventually Im just trying to settle on a good name. With ships they seem to do Whatever class cruiser so it seemed in line with the convention to do Tiger I tank but whatever Susan Mason

Copyright - do you think I am going to end up in jail for the Penny Lane picc tpt solo transcription in David Mason? Points to ponder: (1) like I say on the image page, it's been up in public for 8 million years and not a squeak (hahah piccolo tpt joke geddit?); (2) I don't understand fair use but I can't imagine much fairer use than this, that is, it's pure education, a very short extract, and a litle tricky to see how it robs anyone of income; (3) I'm not sure who would actually own the copyright on the solo anyway. These things can get very murky but I imagine that if there was a real composer credit for those few notes it might well belong to either David himself or to George Martin and I think they are both highly unlikely to sue me. Comments please? Oh and if I do go to jail will you please bring me a cake with a file in it? This is all your fault anyway for putting in Civil on the Beatles page! :) Thanks, Nevilley 08:49 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

If you want the judge to be lenient, I'd lay off the piccolo trumpet jokes :) I've answered on your talk page, I'm sure the excerpt will be fine. --Camembert

OK and fine and thanks for the kind offer of sacrificing me. Please bear the cake in mind. :) Nevilley 22:22 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

Naming standards - churches

Sorry, me again. This is a terrible mess - from the Nicholas Hawksmoor article:

Hawksmoor's six London churches

St Alfege, Greenwich
St George's Bloomsbury
Christ Church, Spitalfields
St George in the East, Wapping
St Mary Woolnoth
St Anne, Limehouse

NB the terrible lack of consistency in apostrophes and commas. Is there a Wiki or Camembert recommendation for this? One possibility is to take what the churches themselves say as gospel (ahahaha) but actually I am not sure they are always right, or that their websites are necessarily written by people who know. I would hate to apply some consistency policy foolishly to something that may genuinely be inconsistent ... I suppose I could go and ead the signs outside them?? hmmmmm. Penny for your thoughts on this please? Nevilley 23:06 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

oh and bl**dy hyphens too, there are more variants of St George in the East than you could shake a stick at!

Tricky one that, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to plead ignorance. As far as I know, there's no Wikipedia standard on commas and such in these cases. I would favour always putting a comma before the place name, but with apostrophes and hyphens I really don't know. Following what the churches themselves do seems a good idea, although just recently, I think somebody removed all the apostrophes from the names of Oxbridge colleges - that seems to have worked out pretty well, because the colleges are completely inconsistent in this themselves, with the same college sometimes using two different forms of their name on the same website. I'd be wary of trying to be consistent just for the sake of it, but if you can't determine the "correct" names, then consistency at least looks better and is probably about as likely to be right as the mish-mash of styles that is in the list at the moment. Good luck trying to work this one out. By the way, I'll be there with a file in a Victoria sponge if you're ever convicted ;) --Camembert

OK and fair enough, thanks. Can the file be in a chocolate cake instead please? :) Nevilley 23:28 Feb 26, 2003 (UTC)

Some people want everything... OK, OK, a chocolate cake it is. I'll spell your name out in icing as well, if you want :) --Camembert

Hello Camembert - thanks for your note on my talk page. I will do as you suggested from now on. -- Cordyph 20:05 Feb 26, 2003 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm mistaken about the owner/operator of Wikipedia declaring that no cliques shoulkd be allowed to mandate their way of doing things so I will ask for clarification... You clearly on my work (and I see now on others) want all things to be YOUR way...Ron Davis

I don't want all things to be done my way - that would be rather frightening. I just want them to be done the best way, and if I think my way is better than somebody else's, then I will say so. I'm always aware that I may be wrong, and, I hope, I'm always open to being convinced that the other person's way is better after all. Please don't take offence at my views on Quebec - they're not aimed at you personally, I just honestly think that List of communities in Quebec is the better name. --Camembert

Your words "the best way" say it all. Unbelievable! I shall wait for the owner of Wikipedia to respond. You and your friends can end your control over this Web site or I can leave. It is quite simple....Ron Davis

What other way should they be done but the best way? Of course Wikipedians want things done the best way, because they want it to succeed and produce a quality project. This project is important to everyone here. But Wikipedians try to reach consensus on what the best way is. That's how it operates; that's the wiki way. - Montréalais