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how can a person become a contributing member of the wikipedia community?

be bold and go ahead and edit, really. You don't need any special requirements - you don't even need to register (although there are reasons why you might want to). I's suggest taking a look at Wikipedia:Editing and Help:Starting a new page if you need a little place to start. —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 23:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Hover box

How do I disable de hover box if it's not in the preferences misc?

Edit Help

Greetings,

I am trying to add a section entitled "No. 1 hit singles" to the page entitled "1949 In Music" I have copied the same format that was used for 1950 and then edited it for 1949. When I click priview, the entire section comes up just as it should. But when I click save, only the heading and the introductory line appear. Please help.

Chuck Ford

Editing Help

Greetings,

I wrote you concerning a problem with editing a page but have solved the problem. Thanks anyway.

Chuck Ford

Seems ok now. Ether your viewing it was messed up (can happen) or someone else got to it and fixed it. --Bky1701 05:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

RE the preceding topic about footnotes, e.g. Grenadier Guards

I think I've got this straight. Do I do the "References" section using Citation Templates - WP:CITET - ? And do I use <ref> and </ref> tags within the text, containing between them the footnote, followed by a Notes section with <references/> for "Footnotes"? as described at WP:FN

• Please confirm that my understanding of this is correct. Thanks for your forbearance. It's a steep learning curve. -- FClef (Talk) 02:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Sounds about right. You can think about it as two independent issues. When you place something between <ref> and </ref> tags in the text, cite.php will move whatever you put there to where the <references/> tag is. Because you're using this for footnotes, you'd put that <references/> tag in a Footnotes or References section at the end of the article. The {{cite}} templates just make it easy to format your whatever as a standard bibliographic form...it's unrelated to the cite.php mechanism. DMacks 08:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks for clarification. -- FClef (Talk) 00:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

==, and ===, and ==== seem to be working fine. --Hetar 06:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, there are places where first level heading are used. In fact, you're looking at one right now. The help desk and similiar pages use them for the day header (like the "July 17" header above). -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 08:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh I see, thanks.JianLi 18:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

==Section 1== and ==Section 2==. Subsections have ===, and your Table of Contents is automatic. Regards, --Wslack 01:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Still bad

It Was off and I turned it on and it still did not work.

I just will stop trying and stay with my original sig.

If it does not not work I will either Quit or give you my password.

I copied Viridae's code but the color still does not work.

--Qho^Talk 00:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Try this: <font color="#669999">[[User:Qho|Qho]]</font>·<sup>[[User talk:Qho|(talk)]]</sup> Luna Santin 00:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

And how the HEHA doi add user (contribs)?

Maybe I shall copy mine from someone else.(Copy and paste)

Luna thanks it mostly works now. --Qho·^(talk) 00:50, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Ah, good. :) The wikilink for your contribs would be [[Special:Contributions/Qho]], formatted however you're looking for. Luna Santin 00:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

That Is So Wiki Cool

Thanks so much.

Mucho Grasia.

Is it Okay To copy this to my archives??

--Qho·^(talk)·_(contribs) 01:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, you can copy this to your userspace. — Reinyday, 01:05, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Changing the name of an entry

In creating an entry for Whiteley Village, the word "village" in the title is all lower case. Whilst not critical it is annoying. How do I rectify that situation so that when retrieved, the title comes up correctly as "Whiteley Village"

See WP:VFAQ#How_do_I_change_the_name_of_an_article.3F. Cheers, Tangotango

Thank you - Wikipedia at its best. Not only do you give the answer extremely quickly but by the time I get back to the article, the title has been corrected as you suggested and the external references have been properly formatted as well - awesome!

still in my heart

how do i preveiw and listen to the song to make sure its the right 1???jay

input to swastika history

I have a book on Amazon.com called Swastika: the ancient mark of God. I am not very computor literate and tried to add what I know about the Swastika since I have solved the mystery of its Origin and use around the world. The space would not accep all the info. I thouht it might be because not logged in-but would not take my loggin said space occupied already. Got Email but lost message of how to correct. J.Ray Hunt [email removed to protect against spam]] Keep me logged in as first given. Here is what I know: The sign was the mark of the ancient Babylonian goddess ESSE pronounced ER-SHE/SHE-ER in approx. 2000 BC she was replaced by the god Marduk that absorbed all the other gods. She was She-mother earth the good god of food and water and good luck to the hunters and gathers. She began as the goddess of green growing things then to all life then to the goddess of all things her sign was the suastika/swastika which means all-the god of the six directions east-west-north-south-up-and down.However she remained in the language of the people to represent food and good luck-the word happiness means I have food. Her name is all through the languages of the world representing food and life. Words like Genesis, Jesus,messiah, essences, essenes, esophagus,eskimo, etc. etc,

==References== section, in a suitable citation style - e.g. books should include author, title, publisher and ISBN number, websites should include a link to the exact page. See WP:CITE. Even better is if you can use Wikipedia:Inline citation so that each paragraph or fact in the article has a footnote which links to the source you got it from. However, Cite.php, the code used to do this, is a bit on the arcane side, and you might have to spend a while looking at the instructions and at examples (try any of our recent featured articles of the day). Hope this helps. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 00:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Fraternity Secrets

I've noticed that someone has added things that were Private to the Phi Kappa Tau page. Someone has gone and removed those from the current revision but they can still be seen in the history. Can you get an Admin or someone to remove them? I know how it's been done in the past with people's addresses. Please contact me via My Talk page. Thanks! --Twintone 14:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Isn't the simple answer that once something appears on the internet it's no longer secret or private. I've just been to the history and checked out the information as I'm sure many others will after you gained our attention about the matter. --Charlesknight 15:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yep, and I just called and told ten of my best friends, who are calling ten of their best friends...and so on... :) --MichaelZimmer (talk) 15:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Could be a psy-op - we all learn the incorrect password thinking we have learnt a secret and it actually turns out to be a fake so they can identity us! :) --Charlesknight 15:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure if someone really wanted to know this information they would be able to find it. I just don't think Wikipedia is really the right place to devulge any private information. --Twintone 21:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

If ΦΚΤ considers the information "secret," by definition it is unverifiable even if true and thus unsuitable for publication at Wikipedia.-choster 16:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

What if the same source is used twice?

In the same article, i.e. chemical thermodynamics, I have used the same source twice. How do I keep it from duplicating in the reference section? Can you help? Thanks:--Sadi Carnot 16:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

• The first time you use <ref> add name=something like <ref name="chem jour 2.03">. Continue as normal and end with </ref>. The next time, use <ref name="chem jour 2.03"/> all by itself. Notice the extra / at the end. There is no </ref> in the second case. Notinasnaid 18:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I tried but I'm still confused? Can someone do the switch for me in chemical thermodynamics so that I can see how it's done. It seems like Notinasnaid is suggesting the "old" reference format whereas I'm trying to learn the "new" reference format. Thanks if you can help: --Sadi Carnot 19:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Tada, done for you! If you need an in-depth explanation please let me know on my talk page --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 19:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I may be wrong, but I think < ref > is the new reference format. Take a look at what was done to the article: this comparison may be especially helpful: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chemical_thermodynamics&diff=68462671&oldid=68428351 Notinasnaid 19:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for the help. Later:--Sadi Carnot 14:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Creating a userpage as an anon

Hello, how I can I have a userpage created as an IP editor? I have submitted it to Articles for creation but it was deleted without comment, so I presume that was not the place. So where should I make that request? Thanks. --67.169.212.172 07:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

as far as i know.. u can't have a userpage, because you share the IP with many other ppl, therefore, u have no real "right" to a userpage. Take alook at Special:Userlogin, and make an account today! :) --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 07:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

You don't need to request it: Just click on the link to your IP user page and create it. There are a lot of reasons why you should register, and I definitely encourage you to do so, but if you want to have a userpage as an IP editor, then that's fine. --Emufarmers^(T/C) 07:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit conflict: IP sharing shouldn't be a problem unless it's a dynamic IP. --Emufarmers^(T/C) 07:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Anonymous users cannot have user pages. One of the benefits of registering an account is havin your own user page that you can customize, so I suggest you register an account. For more compelling reasons as to why you should register an account, read Wikipedia:Why create an account?. Cheers, Tangotango 07:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, yes, anons can't create new pages. My bad, then; registering is certainly the best option, although if you stay an IP, you could nominally substitute your talk page, a la 68.39.174.238. I wouldn't recommend it unless there's a real reason you can't register, though. --Emufarmers^(T/C) 07:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick replies everyone. I noticed that User:216.237.179.238 appears to have requested his user page be created, per its talk page.--67.169.212.172 09:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

By the way, while I only vaguly understand how Ip addressing etc. works, it appears that my IP dosen`t change every minute, since my first edit on this Ip was July 5th, per my contributions page.--67.169.212.172 09:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

But really, if you are serious enough about Wikipedia to want a user page, why on earth don't you just register? (Rightly or wrongly) your edits will carry more respect. Do you have some security concerns? Notinasnaid 10:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Please register for an account on Wikipedia. It just takes 15-30 seconds, and no e-mail address is required - your IP will be hidden, thus increasing your privacy. Many features, such as uploading images, are restricted to registered users. These measures are to prevent abuse as many anonymous users vandalise. Many Wikipedians, such as myself, have formed the impression of anonymous users as vandals, so you should register if you wish to contribute further to Wikipedia. There are many other problems with anonymous users, particularly shared IPs. Registering will make it easier to contact you and will help you build your reputation. If you won't register to contribute, what you wish to contribute probably isn't worth much anyway. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 10:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree with the last statement. Anonymous contributions are as important as those by registered users, and many people with a strong understanding of various subjects either choose to contribute anonymously, or don't know to register, but still end up making great contributions to Wikipedia. Registered users also vandalize Wikipedia, and sometimes it is more difficult to figure this out because they are registered. By no means is there a clear-cut anonymous = vandal, registered = trusted distinction. - Tangotango 17:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Well said. Or as another user put it, a good edit is a good edit, no matter who made it. So, how can I create a usepage as an anon? Thanks. 67.169.212.172 06:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

You can't. You have to register an account to do that. :) - Tangotango 06:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Some have, perhaps indirecly, through registered users. See User:216.237.179.238(as mentioned above), and also User:69.179.138.158. Cheers,User:67.169.212.172 07:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Changing edit summary

Can admins or bureaucrats go back and modify the edit summary? Lincher 12:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Interesting question. No they can't, however in exceptional circumstances they can remove a version edit and the edit summary (or at lest hide it from any non-admins). Why? is there something you need removed? --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 12:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I imagine the situation about which Lincher writes isn't a simple one, but a dummy edit may be used where one inadvertently omits an edit summary or unintentionally misstates the content of his edit... Joe 17:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

No. The real reason behind this is that there is a need for edit summary to keep track of different things on the Good articles' project and for this it would be soooooooo useful to be able to change the edit summary of users that don't bother to add edit summaries. It would thus be really necessary to have such a feature for projects like GA or FA to better keeping track of edits. Lincher 14:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Too Many Errors

Why are you listed at the top of so many search engines on so many subjects, as you have so many, many inaccuracies?

Being a professional researcher, I write for a major syndicate, and hold a couple "Trivia" Guinness World Records.

Seems everytime I look at your articles, there's error after error. Quite candidly, I cannot count on you for accuracies.

My fear is there's many of your readers taking what you say as being factual.

Sorry, as I'm just venting, and in my position I cannot trust any of your pages.

I do wish you all the best, as you've a great concept.

Sincerely,

Wilson Casey,

(email removed to protect from spam)

I think this is less of a problem than you think - although you have ot remember when using wikipedia as a resource that it is not written by experts in particular. If you have spotted so many errors why not correct them? That way you can contribute too. I think it is unfair to say Wikipedia cannot be trusted! --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 14:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

• A recent Nature study showed Britannica isn't much better. Any website, book, encyclopedia, etc is susceptible to errors. As professional researcher you should know not to trust a single source. If you look something up in Wikipedia, you should always evaluate its source. - Mgm|^(talk) 16:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
• The question is an interesting one. Wikipedia certainly isn't 100% accurate, but can you suggest an alternative way that a search engine could guarantee 100% accuracy? Wikipedia is the internet in microcosm, but overall, more accurate. Notinasnaid 17:46, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
• Not to mention, if you happen to know that something is inaccurate, you can fix it up yourself, so that at least no-one else will fall upon the false information (just make sure that what you are putting up is indeed correct, of course, and it always helps if you can cite a reliable source to back you up). Confusing Manifestation 14:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• If you would fix and improve articles, there would be far fewer inaccuracies. — Reinyday, 20:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

reset password

I thought I had created an account with a username that I commonly use elsewhere. When I tried to access the account with that account name, I found that I did not have the proper password. Accordingly, I used the "Reset Password" feature. When I checked my email, I found no message. Therefore I am afraid I reset someone else's password. Is there any way to inform Wikipedia that the rightful owner of that username did not request a new password so that he/she isn't surprised that a new password is suddenly required?

The only way Wikipedia can contact you is through your email. And because of this, I want to ask you, did you enter your email adress at the beginning of the registration? That is probably the missing thing. Take care -- Imoeng 22:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

You cannot accidentally reset anyone else's password (or even your own really). The reset password feature allows both the old and new passwords to work, so no one will be inconvenienced.--Commander Keane 14:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Deletion

Can I delete the part I've contributed ? Because I'm unhappy to be told arrogantly by wikipedia's editors what can be added and what can't , and being insulted as "racist" "uncivil" etc. That's why I want to take off what I have contributed. I will be carefull not to touch anything else. If wikipedia can do that automatically, that will be great. I don't what to contribute with these "civilized" editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.192.19.59 (talk • contribs)

• You may go to any article and remove your contirubtion, but other editors may add it back. When you edit the Wikipedia, the edit page says, "You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL." so your contributions are licensed as such as soon as you make them. — Reinyday, 22:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
• This means you can't retract your permission. You shouldn't want to anyway just because of a few nasty people. This is a large project and there's bound to be a few people trying to mess things up as with any large project. Try reporting them instead. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Trouble logging in

I log in whe I start with Wikipedia, but every time I try to do anyhting, it tells me I'm not logged in, I hit the link to log in, it says I successfully logged in, and when I try again to edit, around we go again!

Using Mozilla Firefox, is there something not set right?

Do you have cookies enabled? --Gray Porpoise 00:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's one thing I made sure to check.

It's doing that for me too. It happened before, when the foundation was fundraising. I have assumed it's a subtle reminder to support Wikipedia financially.Anchoress 05:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know much about this kind of thing, but it works at work, and not at home. The main difference I can think of, is that we have DSL at work, and at home, I use a satellite connection. Can that make a difference? Is it something about a static IP address on DSL, but not on satellite?

I have DSL at home and for the last few days I've had to re-log in regularly (several times a day). Anchoress 23:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

If it was just that, I could live with it, but I can't accomplish anything before I am logged off. Here are the things I've tried:

Disabling firewall

Using both IE and Mozilla Firefox latest versions

Checking for the latest installations of multimedia flash and Java

Removing toolbars from my browsers

Made sure cookies were enabled

And I haven't figured it out. There must be somebody that knows more than me?

I tried it with my wife's computer, and I get the same behavior, which leads me to think that it may be something in the satellite setup. I am going to try to check on Hughes' site.

Copyright issues

Hmm...I'm not sure if this is where this belongs, but anyways..
I recently uploaded an image Image:Ayurveda_oil.jpg from this site. However, I hadn't provided the exact URL of the page at http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com, from where the image was taken. So Abu badali (talk · contribs) sent me a message, asking for the specific URL. He also dutifully tagged the image as {{no source}}. I immediately complied with the request and provided the correct link. However when I looked up the page this time, the Creative Commons tag which was present at the time when I uploaded the image was missing. So my question is: Is the CC license for the image still valid? And can I take off the {{no source}} template?
By the way, here's proof for my claim — the page still is listed in Google under websites that are "free to use or share, even commercially".-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}12:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

NCRP Continued...

From NCRP- You told me to email you premission to reuse the text from the organization's website - from an ncrp email - I did. And you still removed the information...I don't understand why the information was removed when I did what you told me to to verify that the information was directly from NCRP?!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.156.197.40 (talk • contribs)

• Is this a continuation of the previous query, or a completely different issue? Notinasnaid 13:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• (Or perhaps resuming the discussion from #Naming Your Article? Notinasnaid 13:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it seems like it. Anyways, the above comment by the anon is totally unrelated to my query above. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Since this is a collaborative project, you can't expect something that was discussed in one place will necessarily be read by another editor removing copyright violations in good faith - that's the nature of such a big website. You might like to leave a message on the article's talk page until the e-mail can be verified. - Tangotango 13:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

link colors

I notice in some articles some links show up red and some blue. What's the reason for this? What does it mean?

Red links are links to articles that don't exist. Blue links are links to articles that already exist. Light blue links are external and interwiki links. - Tangotango 13:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

That red link looked decidedly odd in a diff. Viridae^Talk 13:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

songs

I'm loking for the answer to a question:

There is a five way tie for the shortest title of a song to make it to number one on the billboard hot 100. Name the songs:

I would really appreciate it with any help. I have been working on this for two days and can't figure it out.

Thank you!

Connie

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Cheers, Tangotango 14:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Free license for pictures of puppets

I've been told that images of puppets can't be released under free licenses, as their designs are copyrighten. Is there no license or text that I could use to assert that the free license applies only to the photography, and not to the content of the photograph? -- Zanimum 14:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

These are just my thoughts, I'm not an expert and not certain of what your question was getting at. This is discussed at Commons:Derivative works. Your image has two copyrights - your free licence, and the copyright of the puppet owner. The puppet owner's copyright will take precedence.

Say for example you took a Cc-by-2.0 photo of Elmo. I think the following text would be ok:

While I took this image and licence it under Cc-by-2.0, it is a derivative work of Elmo and thus copyrighted. It is used in Wikipedia under fair use...<insert fair use template here>

I think having two licensing templates (in this example Cc-by-2.0 and fair use) on the same page would be confusing (the contradictory categories that automatically get added for starters) so have just linked to Cc-by-2.0.

I couldn't find a template that does this sort of thing automatically, but maybe it already exists, or should be created. Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags could be the place to bring that up.--Commander Keane 16:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks all! -- Zanimum 14:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Portal

Hello everyone. I've just made a new portal, its Portal:Indonesia, my home country! yay! So, umm, does anyone know where can I get feedback for the portal? Cause I think its impossible to get it from WP:RFF and WP:PR, also, all Indonesians probably have gone to bed now :P. Cheers -- Imoeng 14:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Article Title Question

Hello,

I would like to write a bio of someone but there is already a bio of another person with the same name! In this case, how do you title it differently since both names are the same? Thanks very much for your help!

Joschus 14:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

You can write the name with the characteristic, like if there are two Imoengs, I would write Imoeng (handsome) and for the another one Imoeng (more handsome). Don't worry about the name to search the article as you can disambiguate the article. For that, please check Help:Editing. Cheers -- Imoeng 14:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I love your example! Just to add to that, the concept of disambiguation (often abbreviated to dab.) is explained at Wikipedia:Disambiguation. The style used for disambiguation is decribed at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). Cheers, Tangotango 14:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Upps, yeah, WP:DAB would be better :P thanks Tangotango! Imoeng 14:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, my turn now! How would I change the title of the article? Can I? Or do I have to make a new article? Regeane Silverwolf 01:44, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

How to nominate a template for deletion?

Hi, I'm wondering what the best way to generate a consensus on the value of a given template is...I came across a template that seems to just be fluff to fill out a page, and since it doesn't add any value, I would nominate it for deletion if I knew how. BTW, the template is {{flsr box}} --Thanatosil 15:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

You can go to Wikipedia:Templates for deletion for instructions on how to delete templates. However, I would urge you not to bother nominating this one. Most state route projects have implemented a way to browse through state routes numerically, which is what {{flsr box}} does. Florida doesn't have a separate WikiProject, but you might try Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads if you want to discuss the issue. Powers 15:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! I have trouble believing that people are actually browsing state route after state route numerically in ascending order, but to each his own I guess :) I'll leave it alone, but at least I know about Wikipedia:Templates for deletion now --Thanatosil 15:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

You can also click "What Links Here" on the left side of the page and see what pages link to that template. Apparently, a lot of pages use it and that would really factor into a decision on deletion.--NMajdan•talk 19:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I have a question

hey i was wonderin if i could ask the creator of wikipedia what was your inspiration for creating it?

Well, um, you could, but probably he is very busy right now, and tomorrow. Perhaps you can check his userpage and read some of the words there. Take care -- Imoeng 18:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, i'll check :)

I need help finding/putting up an image

Emily ^{(Funtrivia Freak)} asks...
Can someone please explain to me how to find an image, figure out if it's copyrighted, and if not put it up on the Matt Camden page? I need a picture of Barry Watson....
Question transplanted from user's talk page by Commander Keane 16:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Figuring out whether it's copyrighted is easy. If it's less than 50-90 years old it is copyright. Unless it specifically says it isn't. The ideal thing is a photo you took yourself and are prepared to release for anyone to use. Notinasnaid 16:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

But I can't take a picture myself. I know people use screenshots all the time, and promo photos of actors. Is there a way to do that? Emily ^{(Funtrivia Freak)} 18:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

You most likely will need/want to find a promotional photo. Looking at the official website(s) of Barry Watson or Matt Camden may have photos that are labeled under "Media Kit". If you find an image to use, you may upload it here and tag it {{Promophoto}} and/or {{Promotional}}. Also see Fair Use for the restrictions of using photos under this claim and provide the source (URL link) to where you found the image. If you don't have any luck finding a photo, you can use {{Reqphoto}} on the Talk page of the article and maybe someone else will help you find one. You can also look through Wikimedia where all the images there are free use and can be used here without hesitation. Good luck. MECU≈talk 13:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Links to diffs

Kindly pardon the elementary question, but how do I link to a diff? Newyorkbrad 18:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

You can copy the URL of the diff from your browser's address bar. Kalani ^[talk] 18:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. So obviously, but I didn't see it anywhere on the help pages. Of course the follow-up question is, how do I link to a URL? Newyorkbrad 18:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

See WP:QUICK, the quick and dirty editor's cheatsheet. :) Short version, surround it with single brackets. [http://en.wikipedia.org/] generates [1], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/ text] generates text. Hope that helps. Luna Santin 18:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

It's exactly what I needed; thanks very much for quick responses. Newyorkbrad 18:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I see this convo has already concluded, but I thought I'd chime in. There is also a recently created template ({{Wp-diff}}) that can do this as well. While it lacks information on how to use it, it has four variables: page (name of the page), diff, oldid (id of the old revision), and title (what you want the link to say).--NMajdan•talk 19:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright tags

Referred here by Omegratron:talk. So, I will follow the herd. Here is a copy of my question. Help/explanation needed. - -Let's start with my first uncertainty. I have uploaded images that are by me [such as the ibeji], and looking at that set of tage, one was for an image that the creator permitted to be uploaded by a Wikipedian. I have used that, but questionably, and I cannot find that tag any more. It seems iffy, in that how can the site know that the agreement for another to upload is real? And what should one [I mean 'I'] do in such cases. The creator may not know Wikipedia, have no interest in it, not agree to personally upload, but it is fine with him/her for the image to be there in a valid license. --Dumarest 15:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC) --Dumarest 18:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)-

External links

Hi

Could someone advise me as to Wikipedia's position on the following circumstance of whether or not to include an external link on a page?

I wish to add a link on various composer pages to link to http://www.coronostro.com/recordings.htm, so that readers can experience some of the music written by several composers for free. I would place the link at the bottom of the page with something like: "to listen to a free recording of {whatever piece}, performed by Coro Nostro, click here."

Would these links be appropriate?

Thanks for responses.

Cheers, Rob Bobnotts 19:49, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Sure, you can add these links at the bottom of the page under the External Links heading. Example G.He 20:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Great, I'll add them soon. Thanks for your help. Bobnotts 20:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Reference for formatting of "band" pages?

I'm trying to locate some kind of reference on the proper way to format a "band" wikipedia page. I'm sure there is some sort of reference page round here, I just can't seem to find it. Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

In my understanding, you want to cite a source, am I right? If so, please take a look at Wikipedia Cite and Wikipedia Footnotes. If not, well, umm.. hahaha, I'm sorry. Okay, take care -- Imoeng 21:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

• If you want to find out how to format a certain type of entry, featured articles are always a great source to take a look at. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, WikiProject Music should provide you more detailed information. -- Natalya 21:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, so I was wrong, sorry. :P Imoeng 21:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

No worries! :) Those are also helpful pages. -- Natalya 21:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

This is What you want: WikiProject Musicians. I fix up a lot of band pages and this is what I use. Make sure to use their infobox: {{Infobox musical artist}}. The Project itself is inactive but the guidelines they created are good. Also, take cues from already good artist/group pages. I tend to use the Nine Inch Nails page a lot, but search any well known band and chance is someone's put a lot of time into it. --The Talking Sock talk contribs 13:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

How to save a "clean" wiki page?

I would like to use a bunch of wikipedia pages in a project. I have been trying everything I can think of to save an offline copy that works in IE or Firefox. I would like it to look just like online, but I would like to be able to do something to remove some of the stuff that does not make sense on an offline copy. Any tips would be super appreciated!!!!!!

Hmm... there's a link on the left menu below the search bar called "printable version"; this doesn't have the links to other articles in it, but it might be something like you're looking for? -- Natalya 01:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The objective is to look like the normal live page, but without the caveats and other notices, ie: the Peru page.

Adding in new information on people not already listed

How can I add in new people to your data base? ----

Its your database too! Its everyone's database. If you would like to make a new article, just click this and follow the instructions. You may also need Help:Editing and Help:Tutorial. Happy editing!! Take care -- Imoeng 01:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• Databases and encyclopedias are not neccesarily similar. Databases may be less discriminatory than encycloepdias (like Wikipedia) about the info they include. Make sure you read WP:BIO to make sure the people in question should be entered. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Dark Room...a different one than listed

I have tried to start a wikipedia page for the band Dark Room but whenever I do a search on wikipedia it always defaults to "dark room" for photography. I'm wondering how to make it so that the band will also be an option for a reader to choose from. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jcunderground (talk • contribs) 03:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, you seem to have created the Dark Room article on top of an active redirect - that is why you are being redirected to Darkroom. [2] To fix this, remove the #REDIRECT... line from the article. By the way, please do note our notability guideline - the band you are writing about may not be "notable" enough for inclusion in Wikipedia, and your article may be deleted (and the redirect to Darkroom restored) if this is the case. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (music) to determine this. Cheers, Tangotango 03:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright query - very old items

I would like to illustrate some articles with images of ancient/medieval coins, etc. As far as I understand, there can be no copyright on the objects themselves, since they were created long before the concept of copyright even existed. But does copyright subsist in the photographic images of those objects? It would seem odd to me, but I cannot get a straight answer reading the applicable Wkikpedia policy pages. It would seem outlandish to me if someone could own copyright over such an image. Of course, if the photograph was an artistic interpretation of the object, that would be different. But what is the situation for images that are straight representations of the objects photographed? I imagine this would also apply to photographs of old art work (eg Old Masters) as well. Thanks for your advice.--Iacobus 03:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

This is probably better suited for Wikipedia:Request for copyright assistance. MECU≈talk 13:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding a Picture to an Article

I am used to adding a picture,in another wiki, by geting the picture, saving it, saving the link for the page, then d/l it, attribution, adding it to the article. I do not see any thing similar on the page. So if I wanted to find and add a picture, how would I do it?..What are the steps..

happy 03:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The upload page is located at Special:Upload - a link is in the "toolbox" on the left of every page. See Wikipedia:Uploading images for more information. Hope this helps, Tangotango 03:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Font question

I added a heading and contents thus: Major buildings/corporate tenants in its history on the Rockefeller Center page but for some reason it has appeared in a different font. An editor has (quite correctly) criticised it and requested I convert it to adhere to Wikipedia standards but I'm unsure in this instance how to do this. Is there a way also of putting this info in 2 columns down the page? QuantumOne 05:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, this is because there was an extra space at the beginning of every line in the list. The MediaWiki software, which Wikipedia runs on, treats lines starting with a space as a pre-formatted (<pre>, in HTML lingo) section, hence the different font and colour. I've changed your list into a formatted list for now - feel free to change it. Cheers, Tangotango 05:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Warnings on User Talk Pages

I'm wondering what (if anything) should be done about Richardgush's user talk page? It's blatant advertising, the same content found at the Methvin entry (which I've proposed for deletion), but I don't know if we're supposed to propose user talk pages for deletion. Maybe an advert tag or would it be appropriate to add it to Miscellany for deletion? (Reply on my talk page if possible.) Wyatt Riot 06:29, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the content in question as it is inappropriate for a user talk page.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 06:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I've deleted Methvin itself. It was irretrieveable as it stood. -- Zanimum 14:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

NUMBEROFPAGES

Is there any way, without using a bot, to put the number of pages in a category on a page like the {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} tag?

I want it to perform the same function but just for one category.

thank you for any help or information.

The Talking Sock talk contribs 13:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

No unfortunately not. I think there is a bot you can request this to be done for you but I cant remember for certain (it might have been another wiki). It would be a useful feature though... --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 13:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I guess you wanted it for the {{Wikification progress}} template from WikiProject Wikify, I have been trying ot figure out a way to do that too - so any other ideas? I am stumped on it too! ;-) --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 13:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I wanted it for that and also for the Task box I made for Wikify and for the Task box for GA. I've seen one project which had a bot to update the articles in their task box so maybe if we found this bot and made a request. I just wish there was something like {{NUMBEROFPAGES|Category}} which would return this number. Oh well, we'll keep looking. --The Talking Sock talk contribs 01:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Suits copyrighten?

Technically, the cut of a suit is a creative work. Any piece of clothing for that matter. So aren't all pictures of living, clothed people on Wikipedia kinda not free, as they're derivative works? Unless of course they're wearing vintage. -- Zanimum 14:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Err no because it is a picture of the item. The picture could well be covered with copyright but within reasons photo's of copyrighted material does not have copyright extended to the photo - unless the sole purpose of the photograph is to infringe the copyright status of the item. phew! does that make sense? --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 14:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• It might be if the clothing was the subject of the photograph, but if the person wearing the clothes is the thing being photographed it doesn't work like that. - Mgm|^(talk) 16:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Learning to Use

I have two questions: 1) I am trying to decipher the process for enterting references and I am totally confused. My article has been tagged because I have not yet gotten my references posted. Exactly how do I get the little [1] numbers to show and link to my list and enter the references below? Or, is that the proper method. and, 2) I wanted to use my talk page to communicate with the person who tagged my article but when I go to their page it is about other things and when I go to mine it says "no messages have been posted" for me, not from me. Please advise. Angikay2 17:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

1. I believe Wikipedia:Footnotes has the information you need.
2. Simply go to User talk:Mattisse (this is Mattisse's talk page), click the "+" tab at the top of the screen, and write whatever you want to him\her. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 17:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

photo

Hi - my name is Rachel Distler. I am a photo researcher for a small independant editorial publisher in Boston, MA, USA named Vista Higher Learning. We publish Spanish and French language text books for use in college language courses.

I found a photograph of the Festival Internacional de l Cancion in an article on Wikipedia that I would really like to include in one of our upcoming text books. I am wondering if you can put me in touch with the person who owns the photo, or tell me if it is public property. Did the person who submitted the photographs sign a waiver making the photographs available for others to use?

Thank you for your help!!

sincerely,

Rachel

Rachel Distler Photography Research & Art Buying Vista Higher Learning, Inc. 31 St. James Ave., #1005 <contact info removed to prevent spam etc. >

The person who uploaded the photo has the choice of which licence to put the photo under, or the option to place it in the public domain. Can you provide a link to the photo? —Mets501 (talk) 18:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• Clicking a photo gets you to the image information page which should tell you who uploaded it and where it came from. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe all photos on Wikipedia are licensed for commercial use so you should be able to use it. However, as its been mentioned, you'll need to view the license for that specific photo to see if you have to give the photographer credit and if you're allowed to alter it.--NMajdan•talk 20:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Just as all photos should be licensed for commercial use, all photos should be licensed to allow modification. The question is whether this particular image is freely licensed or in the public domain, which would make it acceptable for modification and commercial purposes, or is being used under a claim of fair use. Without knowing which image is in question, it's impossible to say. —Bkell (talk) 20:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I narrowed down the article to Eurovision Song Contest, which is the en.wikipedia equal to the Spanish article, "Festival de la Cancion de Eurovision." Teke 05:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible.....

...to fix my name? Instead of User:Jakinthebeenstalk I would like it to be User: Jak_Inn_Thee_Been_Stalk. Thank you. User: Jakinthebeenstalk Ps.I is not an l or a 1 it is an )i(.

Well, the easy way to do it would be pipe link it. Example: Jak Inn thee Been Stalk. Other thant that, if you want to just change it, I believe you have to request it. I'll look for that info now. SynergeticMaggot 19:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I think you'd want to contact User:Essjay about changing the name. SynergeticMaggot 19:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

If you're replacing words with homophones, why not replace stalk with stock? —Bkell (talk) 19:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

A much easier solution will be to just create a new account with the name you want. You have made virtually no edits with this account. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 19:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Go here: Wikipedia:Changing username.--NMajdan•talk 19:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

explain the tool for text-compare in wikipedia

Hello

can you give me a hint?

1) which text-compare utility/algorhithm does wikipedia use, to compare two versions of edited text?

Im told it is a quite good tool to work with.

2) Is there a way i can compare two texts of my own?

Thank you

Erich Bruder, Switzerland bruderich(at)bluewin.ch

Your first question is probably more suitable for the Village Pump (technical), as it deals with the programs and mechanics that most of the people here aren't as familiar with. Good question, though ^^;;

As for your second, you can visit the "my contributions" link that should be located above or to the side (depending on the skin). There should be a link that says "diff" - you can click that to compare it to the last edit before yours. If you have two edits in a row to the same article then it would be comparing your own text. I don't think there's a way to compare your text for two separate articles, though, as then the whole thing would show up as red. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 21:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleting

Help me! I really need to know how to delete what I have searched so far...Please help me.

You need to be a LOT more specific. Delete "what" from "where". Your question makes no sense in the realm of Wikipedia. --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

In the Search Box, when you type in something to search it...I typed in what I was looking for a Birthday present for my sis, and it comes up when you click in the search box, and I dont want her to see it

Just highlight it and press the "delete" button on your keyboard. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 21:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

That is a web browser issue. Web browsers keep a history of what you typed in text boxes (just about any text box). Wikipedia has nothing to do with it. Try clearing the browser's history/cache. Since every web browser has a different way to do that, you'll need to look at the instructions for your web browser to see how to clear the history and/or cache. --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

WOW! You guys and gals are great!

Could you git rid of the old ugly account? Where could I start editing? What do I Do with my User Page? And where can I go to learn new things??? Questions, Questions Questions. Thank you! I have "Been Inn Thee Stock" for the past few days reading about every thing I could get my hands on about Wikipedia. Well have fun and thanks for the help. Jak

I'm glad you've taken the time to read up, that's the best way to familiarize yourself with editing. Really, you can just dive right in....just be bold. If you have any questions, this Help Desk is a great way to ask and receive fairly prompt attention. If you are interested in getting real-time help, there is an IRC channel, wikipedia-bootcamp, that houses a lot of regulars who would be happy to help you. The web client is located here.

I strongly suggest just going for it - if you make a mistake someone will fix it, and as long as you have good faith you're unlikely to mess anything up too badly. Good luck! —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 20:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Source of Images/Image Tags

I have ome photos of products and product advertising material, screen caps of movies and tv shows, and other images that I have produced myself. I created the images so I am the source, do I just put that as my source information. What kind of tags would be applicable because althought I created the images myself I am sure that doesn't not give me copyright privileges and I shouldn't upload it as "I, the creator of this work....." So how should I tag them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.245.213.60 (talk • contribs)

I'm not sure, but I imagine just tagging on something along the lines of "I have created this image and hereby grant the rights to use it" or some such thing. I bet Wikipedia:Copyright has more specific guidelines. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 20:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

You don't own the copyright to these images. Also, you're not really the source, either; you just happened to be the person that created the image file, but you didn't create the content. The copyright holder is the original creator. You can request that the copyright holder release the images under a free license such as the GFDL. Note that getting permission to use the images on Wikipedia is not enough; see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. Alternatively, if you can't contact the copyright holder or if the copyright holder refuses to release the images under a free license, you may be able to use the images on Wikipedia if they qualify for fair use. There is a more-or-less complete list of fair-use copyright tags at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. If you're going to claim fair use, make sure that the use of the images on Wikipedia satisfies all ten points of the Wikipedia fair-use policy.

One more thing: When you make a post on a talk page or a discussion page such as this, you should sign your name with four tildes, like so: ~~~~. —Bkell (talk) 20:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleting

Ok, fine, I'll be more specific, I was searching in the search box for some good present ideas for my sis. Then I noticed, whenever I typed in the first letter of the previous search (her present) it came up underneath the first letter. I need to delete that search ASAP. I don't want her to see the searches! Help me please!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.163.35 (talk • contribs)

This is really more of a browser question than one about editing/using Wikipedia. At any rate, there should be an option somewhere in your preferences to turn that off; it's a feature that allows for quick searching, usually. It would really depend which browser you are using, really. I think this might be more appropriate for the reference desk in the future, anyway ^^;;

P.S.: remember to always sign your comments in discussion pages like this one - just add four tildes to the end like so: ~~~~. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 21:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

anyone know lots about editing entries?

Hello

I need some help for an article:

looking at the history of edits that you can go check out, how can I see where each person who wrote an edit is from?

although if you look at the minutes it appears as though the edits were written in order, this isn't the case. does anyone know how to know what order the edits were written in? i wish they put the seconds and not just the minutes! i need the precise order.

any help is much appreciated. thanks.

-JADM

Hi JADM - I am sure they are in order, bottom last top first if it matters, or select two entries next to one another and compare to show differences ST47 22:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

• JADM, the edits are listed in precise order. You cannot figure out where a person is from (where they are located in the world), but sometimes people list their location on their user page. — Reinyday, 03:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Easier way to change strings?

I'm looking for an easier way to change strings in articles. I need to change any pages that link to Inuyasha and change it to InuYasha, although not just specifically that. Suggestions? --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 23:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Try Auto Wiki Browser. It has a find/replace function built in. You should not, however, just change links simply to bypass a redirect, as it's unnecessary. If Inuyasha is wrong, then changing it is acceptable, though. —Mets501 (talk) 23:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, Inuyasha is wrong. Although there is plenty of dispute. Inuyasha is a redirect page. Thanks, I'll look into AWB. --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 23:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Let me clarify - if the problem is that the link is to the page Inuyasha, don't change it, since it already redirects to InuYasha and your change will not have a real effect. If the problem is that the text of the link, visible to the user, is Inuyasha, then it's okay to change it to InuYasha. Example: Change [[Inuyasha]] to [[InuYasha]], but don't change [[Inuyasha|some text]] to anything. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 09:27, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

locations of editors

hello...thanks to the last person who helped me.

now i need to know how do you find out the location of people who post edits. i know they're there somewhere but i can't find 'em...

thanks.

-JADM

Basically, all the users, and all IP's are "registered" in the userspace "Users". If you want to access the talkpage of a specific user, eg. me, you have to go to the page User talk:Bjelleklang. The same applies for other users, including IP-addresses, except you'd have to type in the IP instead of 'Bjelleklang'. Bjelleklang - talk 00:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Foreign language links: order

I'm trying to find a reference to a style policy on the language-links list, but I can't find the right place.

I want to know in what order the list of links to an article in other languages should be kept. Should it be in alphabetical order according to the two-letter ISO code (for example, DE (German) would come before HR (Croatian)), or should it be alphabetical according to the English name of the other languages (Croatian would come before German). Does anyone know what the guideline is? Thanks. EuroSong ^talk 23:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, the order of the links doesn't really matter, as the mediawiki software sorts them by itself. Bjelleklang - talk 00:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• They are always placed in alphabetical order. — Reinyday, 03:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• Order them by the two-letter code. The reason is that people should see which links are included in a quick glance. If you were to do it by their English name you'd have to learn each code by heart which makes no sense. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Reinyday, does your reply mean alphabetically according to code or to English name? That's the whole point of the question.. hehe. I'm rather inclined to believe MacGyverMagic: thanks. Actually I DO know each code by heart.. ;) EuroSong ^talk 09:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Specific citations vs. Article-wide references

When an article contains a list of references at the end of an article, but no specific citations in the body of an article, under what cases should {{citation needed}} or {{unreferenced}} be added? I'm reading some very long articles that only have one reference listed at the end, and I'm really doubting whether the only source for the article is that one reference. Patiwat 23:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

As I see it, an article with only a single reference should contain at least one {{fact}}, as one reference alone is no guarrantee that the article is npov. If you think an article should contain more references, I'd advise you to add {{unreferenced}}, as this would only serve to improve the articles by either having someone add another source, after specifically checking if the current source covers the point litsted, or by removing the sentence. Bjelleklang - talk 00:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think {{unreferenced}} should be added to articles with references, even without inline citations. There may be a template which says "This article needs to incorporate inline citation", but if I've seen one I don't remember where.

If you dispute one or more facts in an article with references but no inline citation, I would say that you should feel free to add a {{fact}} to all of them and question them on the talk page. I think Wikipedia:Inline Citation is getting so close to standard - no Featured Article candidate gets away without them, and most Do You Know entries more than a few paragraphs have them - that you shouldn't take "oh, it's somewhere in one of those" as a satisfactory response. However, if there is only one reference, and it's easily searchable online, it may be prudent to check it first. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 00:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips! Patiwat 22:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

August 12

" requires Windows Media Player 9"

I put up a link to a website that contains the link to a radio station that plays taiwanese aboriginal music (see the "Modern" section of Taiwanese aborigines). It includes the text " requires Windows Media Player 9". What's the correct way to handle legal issues etc.? Ling.Nut 00:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• If you've included the warning that a player is required, that should be fine (as far as I know). — Reinyday, 03:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Consused

There is a page on Jodie Carn that went through fine. There is a page on her mother, Dona Massin that will not go through. Could this please be explained to me.

Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jodie317 (talk • contribs) .

Hi Jodie. From What I can see there is a page on Dona Massin here, and your the main contributor. Please remember that all Wikipedia titles are CaSe SeNsItIvE so "Dona Massin" is not the same as "dona massin". If there is any more troubles, let me know. Thanks --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 01:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict)--Hi Jodie317. I'm really not sure what you mean by "went through". The latter article you mention, Dona Massin is still extant. Are you having trouble accessing it? Editing it? something else?--Fuhghettaboutit 01:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Questions on YouTube's Policy on Copyrights

Ok, here is my question. An anon user and myself have been in a somewhat heated debate and I would like an Admin's response to put this question to rest. On the YouTube page, there is a question on whether including text on how to download videos from the website. If you are unfamiliar with the website, youtube uses an embedded player to play files stored on their servers. While YouTube does not give any information on how to download their files, some people have figured this out by using Third-party software or websites. As it stands YouTube has stated in their website's Terms of Service/Use that such actions are against their policies. Now this Anon user believe that reguardless of this, wikipedia should have information, directly or indirectly, on how to download these videos...which again is against the TOS of YouTube. Their arguement is that 1)if youtube didn't want downloading to occur, they would stream videos 2)downloading any video from YouTube for personal use is ok and 3)Wikipedia should have this information because others would be interested to know how to do this. My arguement is 1)if it is a violation of YouTube's TOS, then including such information on WP could constitute a violation of WP's policy on copyrights 2)Wikipedia is not an instruction guide or 'How To' 3)the anon in question is just pushing this to Make a point.

If I could get an admin to step in and end this discussion (either way) I would be greatful. --Brian ^{(How am I doing?)} 02:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, but I think it might be a good idea to request a comment. I can argue my own point or whatever, but this isn't really the place for that, so a formal proceeding to develop a consensus would be a good idea. Hope that helps a bit.... —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 06:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Sorry for dropping this in the wrong section!--Brian ^{(How am I doing?)} 06:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• I don't agree with your point 1, Brian. It would be a WP violation because it would encourage breaking the law, not copyright, because YouTube doesn't own the copyright on the videos. Besides, they have scores of copyright violation videos stored on their servers. I just reported one a few days ago. It's like taking water to the sea. Most uploaders don't care about copyright, so you end up with violations galore. Downloading the stuff is the least of their worries. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• If you do deicde to do an RFC, post it here for continuity. Also, I agree with the how-to argument. It may be nice to have a section that states some users download article in violation of the policy, and there have been proven instances of this with users being banned. But to even link to places to get software to do it is a how-to. MECU≈talk 12:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

etiquette or protocol for suggesting links?

I am new to Wikipedia (in terms of contributing) but a frequent user for reference. I love the concept.

I am trying to find the accepted protocols for suggesting links. I assume it is bad form to simply edit, adding links to my articles, but I can't figure out how to submit things for review/consideration by other contributors. I can't even figure out who the (main) author is for a given page.

I have reviewed the policies, pillars, guidelines etc., but for the life of me, can't find an answer to this question. Sorry!

I am a food writer and think there are contributions I could offer in a few places. I am respectful of the process and content and will not simply suggest things in naked self-interest.

Also, I don't see much content in terms of food, gastronomy - is there a place I'm not looking where more of this is catalogued?

Thanks in advance, Jacquelinec 02:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)JacquelineC

Wikipedia:External Links may be what you're looking for. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• Jacquelinec, there isn't necessarily a main editor for an article, but the "history" tab at the top will show you all contributors. Go ahead and add the links you want to. If they are inappropriate, a user will probaly let you know on your talk page. If you want to ask about some specific links, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page, or here. — Reinyday, 03:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• Also, for food topics, see Category:Food and drink and note that there are 20 subcategories filled with articles, such as Category:Ceremonial food and drink and Category:Food safety. — Reinyday, 03:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• Then, if you're ever unsure of whether something would be taken well on the page, the talk page is a good place to suggest your ideas and if there is a general consensus you are welcome to edit it in. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 06:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• When you say: "my articles" are you referring to submissions to Wikipedia or stuff you wrote on your own website? In the first case, please take WP:OWN into account. When it's the second case, make sure it is highly relevant to the article. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• If you'd like more opinions on a subject, see peer review. It's a way to garner outside information. Once you go through peer review, and feel the article meets the standards, you can submit for Good Article which will definately provide you with feed back. After Good Article, there's Featured Article which all articles aspire to, but few make to. MECU≈talk 12:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd cut through all the complications of the replies above and say to you just go ahead and add your links or edits. I'm an experienced editor and that's what I do. There's no need to ask anybody about them (unless you want to) and if they are poor then someone will revert them or correct them. Good luck, have fun - Adrian Pingstone 19:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

technical difficulties

I can't edit articles since wednesday and always encounter with a page which says:

"The Wikimedia Foundation servers are currently experiencing technical difficulties. The problem is most likely temporary and will hopefully be fixed soon. Please check back in a few minutes."

Do you know what has happened and when the problem will be removed? Thanks.--Sa.vakilian 03:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• That message pops up from time to time. Try hitting the back button and resubmitting your changes after a minute. You were able to post this question, so you will be able to edit articles. — Reinyday, 03:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

define sugar and sugar product

sugar and sugar product answer pls. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.215.75 (talk • contribs)

I think this question would be more appropriate for the reference desk, don't you? However, as far as I know, "sugar" is defined as any chemical with a Empirical formula of C₍₁₎H₂O₍₁₎ —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 06:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• No. Make that C_nH_2nO_n. The way you wrote it makes it look like it's always 2 hydrogen instead of twice as many as the other atoms. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank goodness this isn't the reference desk, since there are so many mistakes in your replies. Mgm's correction isn't correct, since Keakealani specifically mentioned this is the empirical formula. This empirical formula is certainly not the definition of a sugar (formaldehyde is not generally taken to be a sugar, and CHOH=CHOH is certainly not one!) and is not even the correct formula - It may be true for most monosaccharides, but is not accurate for more complex sugars. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 09:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Empty Cells in a wikitable template

I'm trying to create a List of Television episodes using the Template:Episode list but empty cells are being ignored so rows with differing empty cells don't align correctly. An attempt is here. Do I need to fix the template itself or add something to my table or is it just a problem with the wiki software? - Peregrinefisher 05:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

You can work out an elaborate solution, or just pop   (a forced space character) into the empty cells. Guess which one I'm recommending for now? ;) Luna Santin 05:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Phi Rho Alpha

I recently created a new page for a local sorority at the University of Michigan, Phi Rho Alpha. It was on the Local sororities list here because it falls under the category of a local social sorority: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_fraternities_and_sororities

However, when I checked back to look at the page, the link to Phi Rho Alpha was removed, as was the entire Phi Rho Alpha page. I received a message saying the information on the page was not note-worthy. I am confused, however, as to why it was not "note-worthy:" the sorority is the first local sorority at the University of Michigan, and three of the other local sororities linked there also have their own pages with information about their organizations. Could someone please explain to me how a page about Phi Rho Alpha is unacceptable? Because this doesn't make much sense to me.

P.S. I used to be a journalist, and I tried my best to ensure that the page was unbiased and neutral, so I highly doubt that was the reason it was deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sedaniel (talk • contribs) 05:08, 12 August 2006.

• Hi Sedaniel, Wikipedia currently has a policy (which I totally disagree with) that an article can be immediately deleted if it is "non-notable". The policy exists to allow the quick deletion of articles about high school bands and such, which we get a lot of here. I have asked that Phi Rho Alpha be restored, and hopefully it will be soon. Sorry for the inconvenience. It sounds like you're going to be a fabulous contributor to the Wikipedia! — Reinyday, 05:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
  • PS: Just in case it wasn't clear, everything you wrote is saved and can be restored without you having to rewrite it. — Reinyday, 05:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Reinyday, why isn't there a link in your sig? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Because I don't want one. — Reinyday, 20:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
• Also, make sure that facts that convey notability are included in the article. Don't assume people know. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• The article was restored and should fall under WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities. — Reinyday, 00:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Gary Swann- Footballers in England

Hi I have recently entered an article about former english footballer Gary Swann.He played for Hull City,Preston North End,York City and Scarborough.The problem is that i cant seem to put the article in the correct category.He should be listed with all the clubs he played for but he isnt as i dont know how to do it.Can you help and let me know what to do in future as i have other former players i would like to enter also.Regards Kevin Doctor Jimmy 06:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

There's two steps, here -- first, figure out the categories you want to add him to, and second, add him into the categories. Adding an article into a category is pretty simple -- go ahead and click the edit link for any featured article and head to the very bottom of the page, and you should see the categories. Hope that helps. :) If you need anything else, don't hesitate to ask. Luna Santin 07:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Also check out [3]--Commander Keane 07:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Accessing archives

How can I obtain a copy of an archive of a deleted article? I just contributed a new article Dove Foundation, and then discovered that there was a previous article that had been deleted. I read the discussion and am quite certain that the new article doesn't have the same problems as the deleted one, but I'd still like to see the old one to see if there is useful information there that I'm missing, references, etc.

Ccrrccrr 12:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

It sounds like you've already seen this page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dove Foundation. If not, it was determined there wasn't enough noteability for that article to be included in Wikipedia. I read the current page, and as-is, there still isn't enough to support noteability. It just sounds like some random company that hasn't done anything special or important. I won't list it to give you a chance to add info though. MECU≈talk 12:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your helpful and lenient review. I'll add more to support noteability, and review the guidelines to ensure I think it does qualify for noteability. But my question remains unanswered: is there a way I can obtain the archive of the deleted article? Ccrrccrr 12:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Basically, only admins have access to deleted pages. Since Xezbeth is the one who performed the deletion of the page, you may want to contact him and request to view it. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Copyright question regarding image from 52 years ago

Is Image:Vista-vision.jpg now in the public domain? It is publicity artwork used by Paramount more than 50 years ago. I ask because the image was removed from the article CamelCase. --Mathew5000 13:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

It is not in the public domain, it applies under Fair Use. However, legal and Wikipedia restrictions govern the usage of such images dictate how and where images that are used under this legal allowance. In the article it was removed from, it most certainly did not apply under fair use. If the article was about Vista vision, the image would certainly apply, but not an article about fonts. MECU≈talk 13:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

50 years isn't usually enough for public domain. Wikipedia:Public domain talks about it, and this site indicates that in 95 years it will be public domain (I'm making assumptions). There is also a possible problem of the logo, I'm not sure how copyright would apply to that. But no, it is not in the public domain.--Commander Keane 13:30, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I think you are mistaken. According to Circular 15a of the US Copyright Office, works originally published in the 1950s had a copyright term of only 28 years. So the image in question, apparently from 1954, would have entered the public domain on 1983-01-01. The only exception is if the copyright owner renewed the copyright registration in 1982, but there is no reason to think that Paramount would have gone to the trouble and expense of renewing the copyright registration for old advertising artwork relating to a film format it had long since abandoned. --Mathew5000 17:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I just did a copyright search [4] for VistaVision and, if I'm reading this right, Paramount did renew the copyright as of January 6, 1983. It's generally safest to expect that a corporation will renew copyright registrations. Even though the film format is abandoned they may still get some licensing revenue for use of the logo or at least PR value by being able to require terms of use when they license the logo. Brian 18:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Do you mean Registration No. RE-162-004? That looks to me like a copyright registration for a piece of music ("Vistavision theme"), not an image.--Mathew5000 18:38, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's the one I found. Sorry, I should have included the registration number to make it easier for others to follow my tracks. The title says "Vistavision theme (Paramount seal) Music: N. L. VanCleave", so I think they protected the entire theme including the image (seal) and the music - which would mean that the image alone would also be protected. There's no way for me to tell for sure without getting the entire application, which so far I've not been able to find without paying a fee :-( - so you may well be right. I'd err on the side of caution though. If we really need to find out there are two ways to do it - someone can write to Paramount (I'll not volunteer for that) or we can find the full copyright application (I may poke around a bit more to see if I can find the full application). Thanks, Brian 18:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)btball

am a system engr

my name is hafiz onike, am from nigeria , am 22 years old, am into system engr looking for assistance i searched for blacks that can help&i found yur site,plz if u can assist in any way plz u can mobile no (removed number) am a frauder& or scamer, am just looking for help. i know u people who help me. god bless u all as yu reply me hafiz onike lagos nigeria.--82.128.6.209 13:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I can't tell what your question is. Please ask a definite question - Adrian Pingstone 19:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Userbox query

Hey everyone! Recently I created Template:User WPIndonesia for WikiProject Indonesia's userbox. My question is, based on the image explanation, the image ([[Image:Coat of Indonesia.png]]) has green copyright (its not really clear), but on the Userbox policy, I can't use any image with copyright. So can I use that, with green copyright image? Cheers -- Imoeng 14:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe you can use that image, since the copyright holder states that you can use it with attribution. You certainly can use (free) images in userboxes, many have them. I think you might be confusing that you cannot use fair use images in userboxes. That is definitely wrong. MECU≈talk 15:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much, now I can go to bed, hahahah. Cheers again, take care -- Imoeng 15:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I was rejected a post

Below is a news story I used to post "3k" as a group. It exists and is not vexicious. (story below) Beaumont Police Detectives are investigating allegations that there was a secret sex club at Ozen High School that involved students, alumni and possibly even an employee of the school. A Jefferson County Grand Jury has indicted a current Ozen employee, 42-year-old Tommy Floyd Granger for indecency with a child. A former student, 25-year-old Byron Aaron Bell was also indicted for sexual assault. The accuser is coming forward 5 years after she says the assault took place. She claims she was part of a group known as "3K" made up of 9th and 10th grade girls who would perform sexual favors for upper class boys. We're not detailing what 3K stands for because the title is explicit in nature. The accuser told Beaumont Police she was sexually assaulted in the Ozen High School Field House in 2001 by Granger and Bell. Police say she was 14 or 15 years old at the time. Granger works as Ozen's "In School Suspension" Supervisor, in the past, he has also worked as an assistant football coach. Police say Bell was a former Ozen Football Player who had already graduated from the school. The accuser gave police names of girls she says were also members of the 3K group. When contacted by police, the other girls' parents told officers they did not want to discuss the matter. Detective John Boles tells KFDM News he believes other students may have been victimized and wants those girls to come forward. BISD Spokeswoman Jolene Ortego says anytime an employee is arrested the person is suspended from the district with pay until the criminal investigation is completed. Ortego says the outcome of the court case will determine if Granger is allowed to return to the district.

Det. John Boles/Beaumont Police "We have to look back to what it was like being in high school. Idolizing seniors because they were the big people on campus and there is certain status when an upperclassman pays attention to someone who was freshman or a sophomore. Until a victim comes forward we can not say for sure, but my gut feeling is that there are probably more victims."

And? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper. We don't write article about every news story in the world. You may want to look at our sister resource, Wikinews. The information you posted above also looks like it was copied from a newspaper or a television station's website, which makes it a copyright violation. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

how to get an own article.

Hey, i couldnt find an ordinary question ask spot, so il ask here, what are the criteria to get an own page? (a real one, no USER:) For my father, Mike Barson has one. Thanks allredy for an answer! Timothy Barson.

Your father must meet the notability requirements set by Wikipedia. If your father does not meet these standards, and you create the article, it will probably be deleted. So go through that page first and determine if he meets requirements.--NMajdan•talk 16:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, User:Dlohcierekim answered Timothy on his (Timothy's) talk page as well.Brian 17:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)btball

watching my page

how do i keep my page from being deleted

What page are you referring to? An article you created? A user page?--NMajdan•talk 16:27, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

help

im trying to find oriental writing symbols...something that means raven...can youhelp?

Try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language. --Mathew5000 18:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

adding exterminal link

−Hi, We are attempting to add an external link to the Tibetan White Crane page: www.whitecranegungfu.com White Crane Gung Fu - SF We cannot get it to work... Please advise. Thank you. Linda A. RochaWhitecrane 19:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

What you would want to do is:

[http://example.com example]

which would turn out like:

example.

But please read the policy on WP:EL and remember that wikipedia is anot an external linkfarm. GeorgeMoney (talk) 19:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Question

I put a proposed first contribution in a sandbox, did the necessary editing, but could not find any way to send it or post it. So I clicked save! Where do I go next? Despite its beauty, the site is extremely confusing for the contributor. There are lots of options but no clear-cut action.

Now I don't even know how to get this message to you!!

H a s s a nAbogalambo 20:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Your first article and then Help:Starting a new page. --Hetar 21:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• More information provided on user's talk page. — Reinyday, 00:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit counts

I used an edit counter(Essjay's)and It said I had made 8 edits to my user page, 8 to my talk page 8 to main (what is main?) And 4 to wikipedia. What are ment by all of those terms? I know I have made More than 4 edits to wikipedia. so please explain this.

Thank you,

--Jak 21:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Differet types of pages on Wikipedia are kept in different "spaces". User space are userpage, which are designated as "User:". User talk pages are at "User talk:". The main space is also known as the article space, which is where all the articles on Wikipedia are kept, and they have no pre-name designation. Wikipedia space is at all the pages marked "Wikipedia:". For example, the Help Desk, located at Wikipedia:Help Desk is in the Wikipedia space. Hopefully that makes some sense. -- Natalya 21:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. I look foward to asking another question. --Jak 22:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

You also don't need to indent your "signature" with all those :'s and with two lines. Just add it to the end of what you type. It will save space. MECU≈talk 22:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• I like that signature. It's unique. — Reinyday, 00:26, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

WP porn external link

Is it acceptable for an article to link to a website which has ads for porn in its sidebar? I'm thinking of http://www.outrate.net/default.htm, which is currently listed as an external link at List of lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender-related films. Dev920 01:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored for minors, so I don't see why not.. as long as its only ad's.. and doesn't make the article become un-encyclopediac :) --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 01:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Harvard citation

Question about the correct way to display page numbers. The Harvard citation page uses a colon:

• When you can (or should) provide a page number, the convention is (Smith 2005: 73).

BTW this is the method I prefer. However the citation examples in the Harvard Reference Templates section on Wikipedia:Template_messages/Sources_of_articles show that templates use "p." or "pp.":

• (Smith 1879, p. 289).

Is there a wikipedia standard anywhere regarding this? If not, is there a place where I can request that it be standardized? Ling.Nut 01:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

• Hi. The gudieline for this topic exists at Wikipedia:Citing sources#Page numbers. — Reinyday, 01:35, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

• • Please also see Wikipedia:Harvard referencing. — Reinyday, 01:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this doesn't answer my question. The format in the guideline differs from the format produced by the template. Why? Which is authoritative? If the guideline is authoritative, would someone please change the template? Ling.Nut 02:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

• I'm sorry I didn't answer your question fully. I'm doing my best to be helpful. One of the five pillars of Wikipedia is that Wikipedia does not have firm rules, so neither is truly authoratative. People who like your method will use Template:Harvard reference and Template:Harvard citation. If you would like to change the other templates, please be bold and do so. If you need help changing them, propose the change on the talk page. You can also be bold and propose a unified standard for citing page numbers at Wikipedia:Citing page numbers. Please let me know if I can help you further. — Reinyday, 02:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

No need to apologize; probably my question wasn't worded well. Your second answer is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!

Ling.Nut 03:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

August 13

LOCATION

If I want to arrange the following cities from north to south, do I use the lattitude?

Dallas Chicago Moscow Doha Riyadh Buenos Aires Panama City Mexico City Cancun

Thanks, e-mail removed —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Peachy6455 (talk • contribs) .

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Garion96 (talk) 03:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Image type usage

Can I upload a PNG version of a "photographic image" onto Wikipedia, as that is the only version I have available of a certain "photographic image?" And I don't think any other version of this image exists. And, if it matters, I would be uploading this image as a Fair Use image. I am asking because on Wikipedia's Image use policy page, it says, "Use JPEG format for photographic images, and SVG format for icons, logos, drawings, maps, flags, and such, falling back to PNG when only a raster image is available. Fair use icons, logos, drawings, maps, flags, and such should be uploaded in PNG format instead of SVG." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pitman6787 (talk • contribs) 02:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

• If it's all you have, and the image isn't a copyright violation, go ahead and upload it. — Reinyday, 02:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • If it's a 16bpp or 24bpp PNG (lots of colours), I'd suggest converting it to JPEG for the size reduction. --Kjoonlee 01:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Bitmaps included in an SVG

Image:Foodchain2.svg seems to depend on external bitmaps on the computer where I made it. How can I convert these bitmaps so that they're included in the SVG file itself and there are no dependencies? I'm using Inkscape for Windows. NeonMerlin 03:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Assuming you're using the current (0.44) version, select Images / Embed All Images from the Effects menu. That should do the trick. —da Pete (ばか) 15:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

block

I just discovered your site, tried to register and was denied. Reason given was some ambiguous remarks about prior vandalism???? I am very interested in using Wikipedia. Please help me get registered. I am 74 years, a veteran, with no criminal record and my MAMA taught me not to steal long ago. Oh yes, I pay my taxes and stop at all Red Lights and Stop Signs. Your refusal to allow me to register is, in my opinion, unfair and discriminatory. May all good fortune attend you.

Charles Coghlan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.11 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

It may be that your IP address has been blocked for vandalism by another user. You can post a request on WP:AN/I and ask them to unblock it. Anchoress 05:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it looks like that IP shouldn't be blocked right now according to the block log [5]. Since it looks like you are using AOL, I would highly recommend creating an account for yourself, as AOL users frequently change IPs and creating an account should prevent you from recieving messages meant for other users (among other benefits). See Wikipedia:Advice to AOL users for more information. BryanG^(talk) 06:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh wait, unless it's an Autoblock caused by some user getting blocked using that IP, then you might have to go to WP:AN and request an unblock after all. BryanG^(talk) 06:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

BryanG, the user said above that he tried to register and was denied, so it appears that just getting an user account will not solve the problem for him. --Anchoress 06:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I realized that after I posted the first message, but isn't the only way you cna't create an account is if your IP is blocked? Or am I wrong about that? BryanG^(talk) 06:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know. What's the connection? Anchoress 07:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

To clarify, this block has nothing to do with you personally, only with the IP address you happen to use, which unfortunately was also used by others for vandalizing Wikipedia. I have taken the liberty of requesting assitance on your behalf on the administrator's noticeboard - you can check the status of this request by clicking here. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 10:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

copyright

How do I put a copyright into my text? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.197.148.142 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

You don't, all text on Wikimedia is free-use, which means anyone can do anything with it. There is a warning to this affect below the edit box. (There is a lot more complexity to that, but that's the basics. —Daniel (‽) 07:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

(edit-conflicted) You'd have to be more specific. Some possible pointers: (1) To produce a copyright sign (©), use &copy; (2) All text that you write is copyrighted by default. Anything you post to Wikipedia will automatically be licensed under the Wikipedia:GFDL, as agreed when you click on Save page. (3) You cannot copy copyrighted text from other websites onto Wikipedia, except in special cases. (Citing small passages of text to comment on them is considered acceptable, but you will need to appropriately cite them.) (4) For more information on copyrights, read Copyright. If you need help on anything else, please clarify. Cheers, Tangotango 07:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Jostein Gaarder

Hi,

On August 10/06 I searched Wikipedia for information about Jostein Gaarder.

On that date, Mr. Gaarder was described here as being an "anti semite," but today, three days later, I see that this slur has now been removed. I'm interested in understanding the process by which this happened. Is there a record of any discussion on how this came about? Here are my cut-and-pastes from Wikipedia, August 10/06, and today, August 13/06:

Cheers

Wikipedia~ August 10, 2006:

Jostein Gaarder From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

Jostein Gaarder (born August 8, 1952 in Oslo) is a Norwegian intellectual, anti-Semite and author of several novels, short stories and children's books.

Wikipedia~ August 13, 2006:

Jostein Gaarder From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

Jostein Gaarder (born August 8, 1952 in Oslo) is a Norwegian intellectual and author of several novels, short stories and children's books.

09:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a collaborative wiki, which means anybody can edit articles at will. You can see the [history] tab at the top of every page to see exactly who added and removed what - for the article in question, that page is [6]. Also, each article has a talk page (accessible from the [discussion] tab at the top of every page), where editors can discuss changes they want to make to the article. See Talk:Jostein Gaarder for the talk page of this particular article. Cheers, Tangotango 10:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

contents

i am new to wikipedia. i don't know how that contents part, in which the basic structure of the article is shown, comes in an article.. plz help. Saorabh 09:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Simpler even than it looks. :) Once an article/page has more than more than four sections, the TOC should appear on its own, just above the first section. Good question, though. Luna Santin 09:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.

Saorabh 17:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding to an exisiting article

I would like to contribute to Wikipedia. Specifically I tried adding to the article on Driving on the Left or Right Section. Unfortunately I have to pay for my internet connection so after logging on I disconnected from the internet while I tried to write a detailed article on the history of the rule of the road for Austria, citing my sources. After spending about an hour writing I found that my window had closed and all my work has gone. How can I contribute to Wikipedia? Do I have to maintain my internet connection while writing? Is this a software problem? Noel Ellis 10:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

10:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

You could try writing it with a text editor, then pasting the entire text you have added into the existing article. Viridae^Talk 10:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) Hi Noel Ellis, Welcome to Wikipedia. Basically, from what I know, you dont need to maintain a network connection whilst on Wikipedia, but (even if u are connected), someone could edit in between when u clicked edit this page, to when u clicked Save Page, which will end up in an Edit conflict. If you plan on doing a huge addition to an article, consider writing it in your personal sandbox: see here; then copy the lot over to the article :). Thanks and let me know if you need more help. --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 10:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Moving my contributions (from when I didn't sign in) to my account

Sometimes I contribute to an article but forget to sign in. These contributions are in the User Contributions page for user "24.0.142.140" How do I move these contributions to my account "Vchao" so they are shown in my User Contributions page? Please notify me on my talk page when you have provided an answer. Thanks! Vchao 11:01, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Vchao, Unfortuanetly I don't think there is a way to 'transfer' these contributions. Try to remember to always log in, or choose the 'Keep me logged in' or 'Remember me' etc checkbox, and make sure cookies are enabled. Good luck :) --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 11:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

• This can be done at Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit, but the service is currently suspended. — Reinyday, 17:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

How do you see the history of what's been in a category?

It's history doesn't do it, of course, cause it only shows edits to that page. The reason I ask is because of WP:CSD C1: "Empty categories (no articles or subcategories for at least four days)". How do you see when the last articles were removed from it to determine if it's been 4 days? -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 12:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think you can. But, you could do this: Come back in 4 days from today, and if there still isn't any articles or sub-categories, put it up for speedy delete. MECU≈talk 16:20, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Although there may have been articles in the interveneing period, especially with maintanance categories. Rich Farmbrough 14:59 15 August 2006 (GMT).

possible vandalism

I've just been looking at this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV%27s_22_Greatest_Voices_in_Music

never heard of the guy at #1

is this a possible case of vandalism and how do I report it directly from the article page?

Thanks --Fountain ie 12:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I've reverted it. If you see things that look like vandalism like that, you can take them out yourself, especially in cases like this where no explanation was given for its insertion. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 13:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

For the record, he was the lead singer of Tool. · rodii · 00:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

How and Why Wikipedia Works

1.What are the main goals,vision and motivation?

2.How does the community collaborate?

3.What are their ethical values?

4.What are records and documents in Wikipedia?

5.How do they manage them?

6.How is Wikipedia beneficial to its stakeholders?

7.What are their current and future focus?

See Wikipedia:About, following links if necessary. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 17:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

copyright tag

Hi, everyone!

I see the photos, which I uploaded yesterday for “Karachays” section, are without copyright tag. Could you be so kind to inform me, which kind of information do you need for authorization, otherwise I’m not quite well in editing and do not know how to create the tag.

Best, Kemal

Here are all the copyright tags: Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. You should always include the source of the image (a URL if from on the web, if you took the photo say "I took this photo"). If you need assistance in determining the copyright, there are links on that page to help with that as well. Also, when adding your comments on a talk page, you should sign your comments using ~~~~. It helps to identify you and will help others in responding to you. MECU≈talk 16:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk page

How do I respond to another user's query on my "talk" page? I can't find a link to accomplish this...

You can just reply underneath the message on your talk page (edit the [edit] button), you can visit the user's talk page and start a new section and reply there, or you can do both - leave a message on their talk page and make a note on your talk page. The choice is up to you, but some users will say which option they prefer on their talk page. Cheers, Tangotango 17:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

• Use the "Edit this page" tab at the top of the page. — Reinyday, 17:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm rather curious how so many people don't have the "edit this page" link while using Wikipedia. What web browser/OS are they using? --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

locations of the editors

Hello

I need to know how to find out the locations of the people who have done edits (like those in the history logs) for a mag article. someone helped me out and told me i can use the editors' names or else IP adress to go to their section in the USERS section and it will tell me their location. BUT! i can't find this "users" section anywhere... presumably once there, i can type in a name and it will tell me their location. can someone please help me find it, and explain it so a very simple person could not mess it up. that'd be perfect for me. much appreciated.

-JADM

We have nothing that comprehensive. In the 'history' section of each article, the user's name is listed along with their contribution. If you click on that user's name, you will be taken to that editor's user page. Many editors, not all, include their origin and/or current location on their user page. Does that make more sense to you? Another way you can see someone's user page is by clicking on the wikilink of their name in their signed contributions on talk pages. If you click my linked name at the bottom of this entry you will see information about me. Not all editors give personal information on their userpages. Anchoress 19:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit Conflict

There is no such section that allows you to type in a name and get a location. Even with an IP address, you are just guessing at a location. For example, if the IP address comes up as AOL, what is the location? What if it is MSN? What if it is a military IP address? The Internet does not provide a means of locating a person from an IP address - and especially not from a username. That is why FISA was ammended in the USA Act, which was ammended in the USA PATRIOT Act to give the government authority to get a warrant to ask Internet Service Providers for a person's name and address during investigations. They wouldn't need a special law for it if any person out on the Internet could go to a special user page and get that information. --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

THANKS! for that. so if i click a user name or IP address and something other than a user page pops up, that means that the user has not created a user page and has not disclosed her or his location anywhere, correct?

Creating an account does not mean a person created a user page. Creating a user page does not mean a person disclosed their location. Disclosing one's location does not mean a person is telling the truth. --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

right, but if a user at any point in their wikipediaing decided to put a location for themselves (real or fictional), i would see it by clicking their name, and if i click their name and something other than a page telling me what they put as their location (truthfully or not) pops up (such as just a list of their contributions), then that means they have not put a location for themselves anywhere, correct? (thanks for this)

Not quite. If you see a list of a user's contributions, you're on their 'contributions' page. The contributions page is not a default substitute for a userpage, it's something else that you get into another way. There's one window, I think it's when you're looking at versions, where clicking someone's username takes you to their contributions. Anchoress 19:58, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

ah. if clicking their names is not the way to someone's userpage (assuming it exists), is there a way to enter a user name (or IP address) and get to their user page, simply and tidily? i've been clicking names and/or simply substituting them in in the address bar, but often i am taken to these "contributions" pages. if you could send me a link to a place where i can access user pages (or if they don't exist then be told so definitively), that would save my sunday. thank you people.

Clicking the names in the 'history' page and in the talk pages is the way to get to userpages. All editors have userpages, but many editors have not customised their userpages. The URL prefix is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User: with the username appended to the end directly after the colon. Usernames with spaces, punctuation or special characters are more challenging, because the HTTP encoding for URLs is unique. But for IP addresses and single-word or under_scored usernames, you should be able to just type them in. But under most circumstances clicking the wikilink of an editor will take you to her/his userpage. Anchoress 20:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, the hyperlink didn't translate perfectly. Here's mine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anchoress and just substitute a different name for mine. Anchoress 20:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

right, ok, but when i replace yours and put in, for example, snak3ater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snak3ater) or when i put in IP adress 172.188.35.77 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:172.188.35.77), i am taken to things other than user pages...and this happens for the large majority of ones i am trying. so, for these two people for example, do user pages not exist? does this mean that they used to exist but no longer exist?

You are being taken to userpages, but there's just nothing on them. I noticed snak3ater (and btw usernames are case sensitive) has no contributions. Where did you get that username? The IP address user has made contributions but just hasn't had any edits to her/his user page. Anchoress 20:35, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

i got it here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zinedine_Zidane&offset=20060709202447&action=history

i'm supposed to verify this paper i have with a bunch of locations for these users (the first 40 after 20:19) is correct. the only ones here that go smoothly is Joshlmay and Gunray...everyone else i'm taken to "User contribution" pages...but for SNAK3ATER i can know definitively that he/she has given no location, but for the ones that take me to "contribution" pages they still might have userpages somewhere i just can't seem to get to, eh?...hmm. by the way these people aren't to be assassinated or anything, this is for a stupid magazine article and i'm a lowly fact checker is all. and you are much appreciated.

OK, got it. The confusion came because that user's username is all caps (SNAK3ATER), which returns a different userpage than the ones you were linking to. If you check that user's page, you'll see s/he hasn't edited his/her userpage, but there's something on the discussion page. The short answer is this: a) with the ip addresses your best bet is to record them and do a WHOIS lookup. b) with the usernames, I'd suggest leaving notes on their discussion pages (click on their names, go to the 'discussion' tab and leave a message exactly the same way you did here) asking them to tell you where they are, in confidence if they wish. On your userpage (and please sign your posts in the future, using the 'sign your name' link below the edit window), you can activate your email feature, and they can email you privately. Anchoress 20:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

ok...cool. that's www.whois.net eh? ok cool. well thanks a lot for all of this help. very nice of you.JADM11 21:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

No probs. Good luck. Anchoress 21:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding a tribute to Joyce Kilmer entry

To Whom It May Concern: I am the author of Joyce Kilmer, A Literary Biography (Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 00-102725; ISBN: 0-615-11175-0; copyright 2000) I would like to add the Preface of my book as a "tribute" link to the Wikipedia entry for Joyce Kilmer. My link website is www.write-fitcomm.com I feel the Preface to my work presents Kilmer in light of the words of his contempories and that it presents your readers with some bibliographical material that will enable them to get more information on Kilmer if they so desire. That Preface is as follows:

textdump struck out - see history

• The preface, while a lovely piece of writing, is inadmissible. First, it is in the first person, which is incongruous with a communal encyclopedia. Second, our neutral point of view policy strictly forbids text that advances a certain bias as truth. This results in stodgy but ultimately more maintainable articles. Your efforts are still very much appreciated, and we hope you will continue to contribute to Wikipedia. Deltabeignet 20:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I share an Ip of a vandal

What does that mean I should do and how do I avoid blocking for having an IP. assoiated with a vandal?

--Jak 19:58, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Call your ISP (Internet Service Provider) and ask for instructions on releasing and re-setting your IP address. Anchoress 20:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

My understanding is that if you sign is with a username, you can use an IP address that has been blocked as a vandal. If that is true, just create a user account. It is easy and free and a hell of a lot better than dealing with an ISP. --Kainaw ^(talk) 21:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

That isn't true, apparently, since I remember another user having problems with that (he had an account but his school was blocked). So unless things have changed and Natalya's idea is correct (and standard), you might still encounter problems, unfortunately. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 23:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

• Jak, do you by any chance have AOL as your Internet Service Provider? - Mgm|^(talk) 21:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

There is now an option for administrators that when blocking an IP address, they can choose to only block anonymous users. Providing the blocking admin chooses this option, it should cut down on the collateral damage that comes from blocking an IP. -- Natalya 23:26, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: blocking anon users for an IP or range; I saw the page where this was being discussed two weeks or so ago; from what I understand it's a proposed policy that hasn't been adopted yet. But I really don't remember where I saw it, it might have been in someone's user space, or it might be policy now. Aah... I think this is the proposal; it looks like it failed. Anchoress 23:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The option is there when you block an IP address. Whether it functions I can't say. Rich Farmbrough 15:08 15 August 2006 (GMT).

Article on "John Sherf"

I submirtted a biographical article on "John Sherf" some time ago. I happened to check it today and I observed that while the term <Calumet High School> was underlined, it was in red indicating there was no URL link provided. I looked up the public website for the school and attempted to edit my article, providing the URL to that schools official website. I immediately received a reply saying that my edit was a candidate for a "quick deletion". I'm curious why...or if I provided the link in an incorrect way. Let me know by e-mail <removed for protection> — Preceding unsigned comment added by PFGaecke (talk • contribs)

Another editor might have thought that your edit was advertisement, non-notable, or otherwise un-encyclopaedic. If you want to fix the article to better fit Wikipedia's guidelines, place the {{hangon}} template on the page and write up an explanation as soon as possible why you feel that the article deserves to remain (such as "I am in the process of researching more to keep NPOV"). If your explanation is sound, the article will remain long enough for you to put your reasons and make the article worthwhile. If not, you can propose that the article go through the regular deletion process which allows for discussion before action.

As a note, also, Wikipedia is copied and distributed extensively and therefore posting your email address is making it very public. Therefore, I've removed it for your security. Also, please remember to sign your posts on discussion pages like this one with four tildes (~~~~), which adds your name and the date and time of your post. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 23:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The page you created at Calumet High School is a candidate for speedy deletion because it meets two of the speedy deletion criteria: it consists solely of an external link, and is considered "empty" by the standards we use. If you want to fill the redlink you should write an actual stub, which should provide enough context for readers to know what the subject is, and preferably provide a basis for expansion. So at a minimum "Calumet High School is a high school in City, County" would probably save the article from being speedy deleted, and to be a good encyclopaedia stub, not just a Yellow Pages entry, you should include a few interesting details like "It has x students", "It was founded in x", "It is famous for its high intake of Eskimos / champion lacrosse team, the Flying Hamsters / godawful smell" (strike out all that do not apply). You'll find Wikipedia:Stub and Wikipedia:Your first article very useful reading. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 23:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Becoming admin/peer review

I'm not sure where to ask this, but here goes. I'd like to maybe be an admin here in the future (I don't want to now, and I don't think i'm experienced enough or well-versed in all areas) and I may have made some mistakes along the way in trying out WP and am curious if that could derail my chances of becoming an admin. Is there any sort of peer review or advise board or page where I could ask a few admins to look at my general contributions to see if I may have a chance at being an admin and that my earlier actions haven't hurt me? I'd really appreciate any feedback. Burgwerworldz 23:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

A visit to editor review would be good if you're interested in seeing what other editors think of you (and is often a good way to gauge potential for RfA). If you made mistakes as a newbie but learned from them and made a genuine effort to avoid further mistakes, you shouldn't have a problem. I don't think it's at all realistic to expect perfection from Day 1 - we wouldn't have any admins if that were the case, I think. I'd suggest really just keeping good faith and keeping any past mistakes in mind for the future. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 23:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Biography: Todd S. Loren

Todd Stuart Loren (nee Stuart Loren Shapiro) was born on January 14, 1960, in Detroit, Michigan. As a child he was very creative making home made comic books as well as animated movies which won him a prize at an Ann Arbor Film Festival at the age of 13. When Todd was 16, he was a comic book collector. He spent so much of his allowence on comic books that his father encouraged him to put on his own comic book collectors convention. His father fronted him $200.00 to rent a hall and and Todd made up flyers and with the help of friends distributed them all over Detroit and suburbs.

The "comicon" was a tremendous success. Todd bought all the comics he wanted, made a lot of money and paid off his dad. From that point on, there was no stopping him. While continuing to put on his comic book conventions, he also put on record collector conventions. Soon the Detroit area was not a big enough venue for him and he expanded to other cities as well. First it was nearby Chicago and Cleveland. Later he covered most of the west coast, with occasional forays out west to Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Diego.

At the age of 18 he bought a house in a Detroit suburb. Soon he felt constricted by the Detroit area and by the age of 22 moved to San Diego Where he

Is there a question you're trying to ask? If you want to start an article, Help:Starting a new page is a good place to start as well as Wikipedia:Your first article. If you have a question, please restate it. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 00:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

question about naming articles

hello there,

i have a question about article naming etiquette. specifically, i am interested in creating an article about a band, named "electro quarterstaff." should the article name be Electro Quarterstaff or Electro Quarterstaff (band)? there currently is no electro quarterstaff page, but perhaps someday someone would want to write an article about the weapon found in Rocket Robin Hood which the band is named after. does that make sense?

Machinebuster 00:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Electro Quarterstaff (band) to be safe. It might be unnecessary, but it'll save someone having to rename it if the weapon article is ever written. Anchoress 00:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

(editconflict)Hi Machinebuster. Basically, just put it in Electro Quarterstaff if u want, and if and when another article comes along, it can easily be moved. It's up to you. But if you want to be good now, you can make it at Electro Quarterstaff (band), and make Electro Quaterstaff a redirect.. Let me know how it goes. --Deon555|talk|e|Review Me! :D 00:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

WP talk pages to Commons images

On August 6 I posted a question regarding what to do with various image talk pages. One of these was Image talk:386DX40 MB Jaguar V.jpg (this now-deleted edit). I was told content like that should be speedied under {{db-talk}}. But I now learned the following: You may not think it by clicking on the red "image" tab (it brings you to this url), but that image does exist in Commons (as evidenced by this WP url) and is likely used on Wikipedia. The deleted talk page may have had valid discussion. Should it be undeleted even though it technically doesn't have a corresponding image page on en? —BazookaJoe 01:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• I believe it should be undeleted. — Reinyday, 04:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Wiki WAP?

Is there a way to access Wikipedia without viewing the images too? Preferably, just a text version? (For use on WAP enabled cell phones.) I don't need the search box--I can just type in the page myself. CoolGuy 02:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Viewing Wikipedia on PDA sized displays is mentioned at Wikipedia:Browser notes#PDA & cell phone browsers, and Wikipedia:Wikipedia on PDAs which it references. Also see http://www.en.wapedia.org which may be exactly what you're looking for. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Now I will reading and editing Wikipedia nonstop. Thank you! CoolGuy 03:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

What was Wikipedia's first article?

Like, an actual article, not a project page or the main page.

That'd generally be a question for the reference desk, but I'm pretty sure I know the answer off the top of my head -- check History of Wikipedia, where I'm almost dead sure it's mentioned. Luna Santin 02:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Here's some more detail: Wikipedia:Wikipedia's oldest articles CoolGuy 03:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

User info boxes

Where can I find a list of the info boxes that people often use on their personal pages. (i.e. en: this user is a native speaker of English...) Thanks! CoolGuy 03:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The largest central listing would probably be WP:BOX. The language ones in particular are usually called Babel boxes, but alltogether, the whole group are known as userboxes. You should be aware that there's an ongoing controversy about userboxes; see the German solution. :) Luna Santin 03:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

That's the link I was looking for. Thanks! (WP:GUS is quite interesting too.) CoolGuy 03:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Standards Page for Towns

Is there a standardized way to create pages about a certain city or town? Perhaps a template page. OPaul 03:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities has all the good details :) --Hetar 04:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Specialist (Rank)

I re-wrote a paragraph in the Specialist (Rank) article as follows:

"In 1955, four grades of Speciaist were established: Specialist Third Class (E-4), Specialist Second Class (E-5), Specialist First Class (E-6), and Master Specialist (E-7) similar to the Petty Officer grades of the Navy and Coast Guard. When the (so-called) Super Grades (E-8 and E-9) were introduced in 1958, the Specialist grade titles were changed to Specialist Four through Specialist Seven; Specialist Eight and Specialist Nine were added on top; each such grade parallelled the corresponding grade of non-commissioned officer (E-4 through E-9) in terms of pay, but without the NCO authority conferred on the latter."

The article as written suggests that the E-8 and E-9 (super) grades existed in 1955 -- they did not.

I would have saved my changes, but I noticed protocols for marking up pages and didn't want to screw things up so I'm advising you of my corrections here.

e-mail address removed

• Please be bold and update the page. — Reinyday, 05:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Using three of my photos, but they're also on my site

I have two spectacular high-res photos of fireworks that I would like to add to the firework article. I was about to upload the 500 KB JPG files and trying to figure out what copyright-related tag I need. I then saw the banner that images on websites or image searches shouldn't be posted here. Thing is, it's on my website as part of my blog on how I process fireworks each year and it's also my photo. I would also like to explain a bit more about consumer fireworks as well (possibly as a new article linked to from the firework article) such as how they are lit and stuff (and I have some good photos of this process as well, again a good chunk of the content is on my website). What do I do in this case?

Ulillillia 06:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The message you saw means that people shouldn't just find images on the Internet and upload them to Wikipedia without the copyright holder's consent. If you are the photographer, however, then you hold the copyright, and you are welcome to upload your photos to Wikipedia, as long as you are willing to release them under a free license. You should consider uploading the photos to the Wikimedia Commons instead, though, so that all Wikimedia projects can use them (not just the English Wikipedia). —Bkell (talk) 06:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, you are welcome to edit any article in Wikipedia. Simply click the "edit this page" tab at the top of the article. If you think you have enough information to start a new article on consumer fireworks, you can simply use the title of the new article in a sentence somewhere and surround it with double square brackets (like I did in this sentence). This will create a red link, which means that the article hasn't been written yet. You can then click on the link to begin editing the article. —Bkell (talk) 06:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, its worth noting that someone may find the photos on your blog and request a copyright review. To keep this from being a problem, send an email to permissions at wikimedia dot org from an email address that would be recognized as coming from that website and state which photos you're releasing and under which free license. Alternately, you can list the licensing you're choosing on the blog. Either way, it will confirm you as the owner of the photos and their licensing and head off issues later on Shell ^babelfish 07:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I have three more photos yet to add and I'm starting on the article about consumer fireworks. However, I do have some uncertainties in some of the facts about them. What do I do in this case? Post it when I have considerable certainty on it, or just leave it out? Ulillillia 07:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

All facts on Wikipedia should be able to be verified by reliable sources. It can be quite dangerous writing from your personal knowledge, as even if true it may not be verifiable (Wikipedia:Verifiability states that verifiability, not truth, is the key to including information here). If you're uncertain about something, you should try and find a reliable source that confirms it, otherwise leave it out. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 14:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Images

I have two pictures that I posted on my page but cannot figure out the tags that I need to put on them so that they are not deleted. I have tried to follow the guidelines but still seem to be getting nowhere. What exactly do I need to put on my pictures? And where exactly do I need to put it?

Where did you get the pictures? Did you make them yourself, scan them, find them online, or another source? --Gray Porpoise 14:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Obtaining a copyright holder's consent

If an image copyright holder consents to use via email, what are the next steps in the procedure prior to using the image?--Scribner 15:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Send an email to permissions at wikimedia dot org. Be sure to include what file you are referring to. Get more info here.--NMajdan•talk 16:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!--Scribner 16:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

abortion

As someone who has contributed to the clinical information and political commentary on the abortion issue during the past 35 years, I would like to forward information to Simion Pulsifer so that he may have access to it if he wishes to edit or write contributions to Wikipedia about this subject.

 He may contact me at:
  Warren M. Hern, M.D., M.P.H., Ph.D.
  Director
  Boulder Abortion Clinic
  Boulder, Colorado 80304  
  303 447-1361   email [email redacted]
  website:  www.drhern.com   see "News and publications"
 
Thank you.
  Warren M. Hern, M.D.   Warren M. Hern

I've removed your email address to prevent spam robots from stealing your address. You ought to remove your other details, but at least they won't be stolen automatically. What is it that you want us to do? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. There is no reason that Simion Pulsifer should look here to find your address, and there is no reason that Wikipedia should contact him. If you want to bother him, do so yourself. —Daniel (‽) 16:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The best way to contact SimonP is to leave a note on his talk page, or email. I will drop him a note about your message here so he knows about it :-) --Commander Keane 18:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for you offer. However, I really do not work in this area and I have no scientific or medical background. The best idea might be to contact someone at Wikipedia:WikiProject Abortion/Participants and ask if they would be interested. - SimonP 19:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible?

I'm curious...

Is it possible for someone to find your IP address when you are logged on? Is it possible for someone to find your home city through your IP addresss?

Thanks.--BoWavem0n 19:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe the administrators have tools to check users' IP addresses, but they won't use them to violate your privacy and I don't think normal users have that ability. So overall, no, nobody will be able to figure out where you live just from Wikipedia, if that's what you're worried about. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 19:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict)

Only trusted users with Wikipedia:Checkuser capabilities can find out the IP of a logged-in user, which is only done in case of sockpuppet suspicion. —Daniel (‽) 19:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

(antoher edit conflict -same answer though)

Only some admins have the checkuser status that allows them to see IP{ adresses. If you are logge3d in noone will be able to trace your IP. If they do find it then there is little chance it will be traced to you. See here for the wikimedia foundations privacy policy to allay your fears... --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 19:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Admins with Checkuser permission are in the extreme minority - just the Arbitration Committee and a few other trusted users. You can see the current list at Special:Listusers/checkuser. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 19:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Lost Password

I've forgotten my password, and since I've requested that it be e-mailed to me multiple times, I can only assume I forgot to set an e-mail address for this purpose. Since I now have to create a new account, is there any way my old account can be deleted so that I can use my same login name?

No, sorry. If you have done any edits, the account cannot be deleted for copyright reasons. If you have not done any edits with the old account you can ask for that account to be moved and you can make a new one where it was. To do that go to Wikipedia:Username changes. —Daniel (‽) 20:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

"Planned articles"

Two questions -- one, can someone tell me what the tag is for an article that is currently under revision (flagging it to be sure it is not nominated for deletion)? I've seen it around, but can't find it right now. Two, what is the best protocol to patrol pages such as El Rancho Charter School (NOTE: the preceding link is to a historical version of the article) which were created without content? I suppose technically they can be tagged as SPD and the user told that articles should be fully developed before placing in the encyclopedia space, but I wanted to be sure. I'd flag it with the tag I'm requesting, but I'm not certain that's really the right protocol. Thanks. --CPAScott 21:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey Scott (remember me from the Erie Canal table). I think you mean Template:Inuse. There's an explanation for the template on it's page, but briefly, it's to prevent edit conflicts or people overlapping each others work. As to the school pages, it's hard to say w/o being able to see the deleted page (perhaps an admin can glance at it an offer more specific advice). I can't see any speedy deletion criteria that schools meet. You can try prodding them if they're nursery schools and such. Larger schools are more controversial and probably ought to be taken to AfD. High schools are forever controversial, but they tend to be kept. Hope that answers your question.--Kchase T 21:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Right answer, wrong question. The tag you're looking for is {{db-empty}}.--Kchase T 21:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Nope. The Template:Inuse tag was exactly it. Thanks. I didn't tag the El Rancho article for speedy deletion, someone else did. Best, --CPAScott 23:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

• It is valid to delete a completely empty article, but once a school article exists, it is rarely deleted as it is part of WikiProject Schools. — Reinyday, 00:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Uploading new versions of pictures.

If I improve upon a diagram slightly, then upload the improved version, should I use the same file name that the original had or a different file name? --Amanaplanacanalpanama 22:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

It depends on the copyright status of the original image, and what copyright you are willing (or required) to release your works under. But it also matters if your improvements are intended to display the exact information, if someone could possibly ever want the older version, or it really is just a slight improvement with no general change in the image (like you cleaned up some whitespace, or compressed an image, etc). I'd also check with the original uploaded to see if they would mind if you replaced the image with yours. To be on the safe side, you could just renamed it "-v2" and replace the instances you want to use the improvements on. Uploading with the exact same filename will replace the original image with yours in all instances it is used (see the What links here on the image). MECU≈talk 22:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Mecu --amanaplanacanalpanama 03:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

User renaming

Is there any way I can change my username? -- Blarrrg 23:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

There sure is. See Wikipedia:Changing username. It's important to note that you can only change to a name that's not yet created -- so don't start the account you want to switch to. I'm not sure how long the wait is, but my impression is that they're pretty good about meeting good-faith requests. :) Luna Santin 23:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Jump to line

Say I go to a diff of an article and see that a user made a typo around line 200 or so. Is there any easy way to find this line or this typo other than scrolling through the article on the edit page looking for it? -- Blarrrg 01:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

If the article is seperated into sections with headings, you can click "edit" on the right hand side of the screen next to the heading for the section you want to edit. 67.169.212.172 01:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You could use your browser's "find" option, possibly (usually CTRL+F or Apple+F) to find either that word or a word around it. Unfortunately I don't think there's an internal way to jump to a particular line. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 02:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Updates

Where can I find out about updates to Wikipedia regarding its software (i.e. now articles can only be created by logged users, etc)? Maybe there's a mailing list? How about ideas that are in progress or under discussion.

By the way, to everyone here, I've found this page very helpful. Thank you all so much! --CoolGuy 02:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The central place for current news on Wikipedia is the Wikipedia:Community Portal. There are also several mailing lists, see Wikipedia:Mailing lists.

Hmm -- there's not quite any one place that I'd call the place for talk. Important areas large numbers of poeple may watch would probably include the Community Portal, Administrators' noticeboard, Village pump, the mailing lists, and finally Wikipedia:Centralized discussion. Depending on what you're looking for, you can probably find some of it, or a link to it, from one of those areas; at least, that's my experience, so far. :) Luna Santin 02:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Going bananas -- and asking for help from original writer

Hello,

I'm a new contributor and I imagine some of my contributions will simply be grammar and logic for articles that I run across and believe I can improve. That's happened today with Bananas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana

In this paragraph, the last sentence is very confusing:

"Cultivated bananas are sterile (parthenocarpic), meaning that they do not produce viable seeds. Lacking seeds, another form of propagation is required. This involves removing and transplanting part of the underground stem (called a corm). Usually this is done by carefully removing a sucker (a vertical shoot that develops from the base of the banana pseudostem) with some roots intact. However, small sympodial corms, representing not yet elongated suckers, are harder to transplant and can be left out of the ground for up to 2 weeks; they require minimal care and can be boxed together for shipment."

It starts with "However". Then says small corms are harder to transplant -- a negative -- follow by several positives -- "can be left out of the ground for up to 2 weeks", require minimal care, can be boxed together.

And if they're harder to transplant, it's odd that they require minimal care.

All of this is beyond my knowledge but presumably within the knowledge of the original writer. Is there a procedure for either asking that writer, or unobtrusively flagging the paragraph so that someone can make it a little smoother?

And a second question: I have a photographic website that shows the life cycle of the banana. Is it permissible to list the gallery as a link? My website is popular enough that I'm not doing it to increase traffic. Frankly, I don't care if people visit, but it is relevant information. http://www.kleptography.com/gallery-bananagrove.htm

I look forward to your advice to keep me on a community track.

Thank you.

Don — Preceding unsigned comment added by Don Ellis (talk • contribs)

You can either contact the author(s) on his/her/their talk page(s) or leave a note on the article's talk page itself. You could also label the article or section with {{cleanup}} or a more specific cleanup template, if you feel the article in general needs a good once-over. I would suggest starting with the article's talk page, and if that doesn't yield any results asking one of the more prominent contributors directly about it.

As for your website, I'd also suggest asking about that one the talk page to develop a little consensus. It would probably be okay, but since it seems slightly self-serving to post your own website (whether or not that's the intent) it would be better to get another opinion to back up your claims first. Better safe then sorry, I guess.

Welcome to Wikipedia, at any rate - we're glad to have you ^_^ —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 03:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• I think if you use {{Cleanup}}, no one will know what the problem is. It would be better to use {{Cleanup-section}} or {{Expert}}. Also, a post on the talk page should get editors who are monitoring the page motivated to fix it. — Reinyday, 06:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Logging out -- need to clear username

When I have been editing Wikipedia while logged in, and then log out, and then click on "Sign in/create account" again, I notice that my username is still there. This is fine when I'm using my own computer, but what about when someone is using a more public computer? If you don't want the next person using the computer to know your Wikipedia username, how can you clear that out? --Metropolitan90 04:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• That would involve clearing the browser cache, which depends on which browser you're using. — Reinyday, 06:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Company Information - Changing Content & Logo

Can you please advise how we go about changing some company information on your site. I am writing in reference to Jaycar Electronics. The logo on the site is not current. We need to replace this along with some company detail.

Please email to e-mail removed

• You may click the "edit this page" tab at the top of the page of the article. Click the "Help" button on the left for help in uploading an image. — Reinyday, 06:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Question

How i may promoution my site with helped yours service

• Sorry, you cannot promote your site with the Wikipedia. Best of luck. — Reinyday, 06:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding page to WP:AfD

Hey, I've been going through and adding non-notable vanity press-published books to AfD. I added three without problems, but for whatever reason I cannot add Red Prophet (Macias) correctly. I added afd1 to the article and afd2 to it's deletion entry just fine, but I cannot add afd3 to today's Articles for Deletion log. ((subst:afd3|pg=Red Prophet (Macias))) (with {{}} in place of (())) seems like it should be correct, but it produces:

{{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Prophet (Macias)}}

which is correct, except it fails to copy the title of the article and just runs it into the previous item on the AfD page. If I'm not making the problem clear, try to add it yourself and see what's produced. This is weird, because using this exact process to list three other articles just minutes ago worked fine. Anyone know what's wrong? Thanks. -Elmer Clark 06:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• You don't want the pipe ( | ) at the very beginning before the "subst". — Reinyday, 06:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, but even without that pipe I experience the same problem. -Elmer Clark 08:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I fixed it for you. For some reason this page didn't have the right formatting. (I guess you didnt use {{afd2}} on that page). The afd3 bit you posted is correct it wass just that page that was wrong --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 09:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

PS I nowiki'ed the AFDtranscluson above so as not to mess up formatting :D --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 09:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks a lot for clearing it up. How silly of me :) -Elmer Clark 09:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

No problems, sometimes the obvious answer is also the silliest one. I do it all the time :D --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 09:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Can I get everything on CD or DVD?

I would like to get all of WikiMedia, in all languages, on a set of DVD's. Is this possible to order? And how much does it cost? Thanks, David Broderick (e-mail removed)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.209.146.45 (talk • contribs)

Unfortunately this is not available at the moment. The closest thing to what you might want is Wikipedia:Version_1.0 but that is only for enwiki not all of wikimedia and also is not yet finished (if it ever will be!!) --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 09:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

technical problem

Hello,

I'm a french scientist. I would like to present some features of science. Appearently it is possible to include sketches, drawings, equations, curves, anything in the free encyclopedia. I suppose there are some restriction. If not, many people would add a lot of heavy pictures ti their texts.

How could I include illustrations ? I suppose this could be controlled by the Wikipedia team.

By the way I have written 25 poplar books, translated into 22 langages. See :

http://www.savoir-sans-frontieres.com

118 album presented with free download and no publicity. It is just ... free ( I am 69, retired ).

I offer all these album to Wikipedia, if you accept to include it in your pages. If desired you even remove my name and the name of the association. We don' ask for anything back. The goel is to give scientific knowledge to as many peolple as possible.

We could sign a contrax where this authorisation would be given, in a clear way. Now, my albums are no longer copyrighted.

About the pictures, is it a solution ?

Thanks by advance

Pr JEan-Pierre Petit —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jean Pierre Petit (talk • contribs) 07:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Hello Jean Pierre. We would love to have more diagrams and illustrations. If you would like to create them, and release them for free use, please follow the instructions at Special:Upload or preferably release them at the Commons. You cannot use images that you have published in your books, since that would be a copyright violation, but you can create mew images for the Wikipedia. We look forward to seeing them! — Reinyday, 20:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Actually, maybe you can release your published work. I'll defer to someone else, who may know more on the details. — Reinyday, 20:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Featured portal candidates

Hey everyone. Is there any place to advertise or inform a featured portal candidate, since this portal hasn't got many comments to reach the consensus. WP:FPCAN. Cheers, take care -- Imoeng 08:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

greetings

Apparently I have been banned, although I have spent the grand total of 1 hour looking through your site.

I tried contacting Masza13, but the webpage I was directed to told me I couldn't leave a message because I was banned, or words to that effect.. which is a catch22, I believe. Hence my appearence here. (By the way, it really is quite difficult to find an email to contact people on this site directly with.)

Apparently the IP 202.7.166.173 has been hard at work.

my email is !!!Email removed to prevent spam!!! ,and yes, I'm with the apparently troublesome TPG.com Perhaps if you could load me up with some technical details, I can attack them as well.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing. You were blocked by Misza13 for the following reason (see our blocking policy): vandalism

Your IP address is 202.7.166.173. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

regards Adrian K http://members.ozemail.com.au/~classblu/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musodata (talk • contribs)

You block expires in 9 hours. If you do not wish to wait put {{unblock}} on your talk page and provide a reason why you think yous hould be unblocked. Viridae^Talk 09:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, you can email any user (which has enabled his email) by going to his userpage and clicking on "email this user" in the box to the left. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 20:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Linkspam

Is this linkspam? Can I have a second opinion from someone? AndyJones 12:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I would say so. Go ahead and get rid :D --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 12:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Done, thank you. AndyJones 12:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Newbie: unsure about disambiguation

There is an existing page called FlyBuys. A variant Fly Buys also redirects there. I want to do the following: set up a disambiguation page which will link to new pages called FlyBuys (Australia) or Fly Buys (New Zealand) and I'm getting confused about exactly how to go about it. Many thanks in anticipation! Murtoa 13:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I wrote a draft about this sort of thing the other day at Wikipedia:Disambiguation/Case_study. Maybe it will help, if not ask more questions here (or maybe someone else will give you a better answer :-))--Commander Keane 13:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually maybe that explanation isn't appropriate. After some discussion (which you may have already done) you could:

1. move FlyBuys to FlyBuys (Australia). Then create Fly Buys (New Zealand). Then edit FlyBuys which now redirects to the Australia page, and turn it into a disambiguation page.
2. Just start Fly Buys (New Zealand) and place a note at the top of FlyBuys saying "For the New Zealand set up, see Fly Buys (New Zealand)"--Commander Keane 13:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

French Translation of the Lord's Prayer

Your translation is incorrect. I am a French Catholic and first of all we do not use the informal tu which is reflected in your translation, but Vous. Notre Pere qui etes au ciel que votre nom soit sanctifie, que votre regne arrive, que votre volonte soit faite sur la terre comme au ciel, donnez nous aujourdhui notre pain de chaque jour, pardonnez nous nos offenses comme nous le pardonnons a ceux qui nous ont offenses, ne nous laissez pas succomber a la tentation, maid delivrez nous du mal, ainsi soit-il.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.60.184.254 (talk • contribs)

Hi, Im not sure what your reffering to here but there is no french translation on the english wikipedia. If you mean the french wikipedia (http://fr.wikipedia.org) then you need to ask there as different people work on that :D PS dont forget to sign your posts by typing 4 tildes: ~~~~ --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 13:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually there is: The Lord's Prayer in different languages. Viridae^Talk 14:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

That said, I can see neither tu nor Vous in the prayer. Viridae^Talk 14:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The second person and "ton" and "ta" are used throughout. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 14:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know enough french to know that :( Viridae^Talk 14:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The translation is Wikimedia-consistent. The French Wikisource article s:fr:Notre Père also uses the second-person forms. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 14:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Ooops I didnt get that far. I only made it to the main article... :( --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 14:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm interested that you wouldn't use the 'tu' form for this, as English uses the 'thou' form which was once equivalent. Martin Luther's German translation work uses 'du' and not 'Sie'. I thought this was common? How interesting. That should probably feature somewhere in Wikipedia. Skittle 15:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Curiouser and curiouser. Some site on the Catholic church in France thinks you use 'tu'. Skittle 15:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

And to cap the weirdness, the Vatican Itself (go to the end of the page) disagrees with you and uses the 'tu' form. It is sort of purposefully done, since you are calling god 'Father'... Skittle 15:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Animal pictures for Book

14:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)208.21.172.158As I read, it is OK to copy pictures from Wikipedia. Is that correct?

–208.21.172.158 14:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)Barbara~~Yardman––14:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)~

Unless the image's page says it is copyrighted by someone else (or it has no tag), you are free to use it. Remember, though, that you still must give credit to the author. --Gray Porpoise 15:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Redirect from Page Cocceius

On webpage, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cocceius&redirect=no

I edited that page to include a redirect to Johannes Cocceius, but that redirect does not show up. I used the form for the other redirect (Cocceius Auctus). That one works, but mine does not.

What have I done wrong?

Thanks,

216.19.11.159 15:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You added the redirect below an existing redirect and a redirect can only redirect to one page - not two. I suggest you add a dismbiguation template to the top of Cocceius Auctus or turn http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cocceius&redirect=no into a disambiguation page. Viridae^Talk 15:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Images

I uploaded a picture from my computer that was scanned from a comic book and then cropped by me. Now someone says I need to put some sort of lisence or copyright on it. What should I do?

Firstly, sign your posts on talk/discussion pages. It makes it much easier to identify you. It can be done by putting four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comment.

Secondly, you should know that most images from publications are subject to copyright which may prevent you from publishing them on the internet. I don't know enough about the various rules and restrictions to give you a full answer. Try and write exactly how you made the image, and why you think it should be on Wikipedia, and maybe you won't be deleted. —Daniel (‽) 17:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

When was the comic book published? The image is probably copyright protected and the copyright is probably owned by the comic book publisher. Most likely it is still protected and even though your scanned and cropped it that, at best, is a derivative work and you can't publish a derivative work without a license from the copyright owner/holder of the original work. It's probably an image we can't use - except for possibly under the very narrow terms of fair use. You should determine the holder of the copyright of the original image and tag your image with that information. If you want some help, post the information about the comic book from which you scanned the image and I'll see what I can do. Brian 17:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Adding pictures and illustrations.

Hello!

How does one go about adding noncopyrighted pictures or illustration to the materials about which they are writing? Similarly materials that the person may wish to add but protect their copyright interest?

Kirk. L. Hurley Kirk L. Hurley 17:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

There's information on uploading and adding images at WP:IMAGE. --JD 18:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Referencing

I want to cite the journal article which is the source of some information I have added. The advice provided by the wikipedia help pages is confusing, containing various ideas and some sentences which make no sense to me. I think it is a good idea to have a link to click at the location of the information in question, that will take the reader to the reference from which this information was taken. Is this possible with Harvard Referencing? I have seen some sort of template where you fill in title =, journal =, url =, etc and this appears very useful; however it is not mentioned in the help guide.

Why is it that every time I try to use the help pages I'm confronted with a barrage of conflicting rubbish and am never able to find what I'm looking for? --Username132 (talk) 18:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I can only suggest WP:CITE, but from the sound of it, you've probably already read that article. I'm sorry you're having so many problems, but I'm not familiar enough with citation that I think I could help you much more. Probably the reason it seems so unclear and contradictory is because Wikipedia does not, in general, have firmly set policies (NPOV, Verifiability, and Original Research aside), and thus many guidelines are purely different Wikipedians' opinions. I wish I could help you more, but maybe I'd be able to help you sort out the various help tables for something of use. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 19:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Try Wikipedia:Template_messages/Sources_of_articles/Generic_citations - Mgm|^(talk) 19:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• Once you have figured it out, please update the help pages so that others won't have the same confusion. — Reinyday, 20:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

It would take days for me to sort that mess out. I'm sure there are wikipedians who understand it already. I don't have a clue and getting a clue takes time I don't have. I'd rather spend time editting proper articles than trying to understand how things work behind the scenes. If wikipedia doesn't have set policies on referencing, then it should go about aqcuiring some :( --Username132 (talk) 09:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

translation chinese / Japanese

I was looking for the symbol or character that meant or reperesented the word "Player" and the word "free"... I wanted the chinese or Japanese characters/symbols that meant the corresponding meaning of the two english words/expressions above? Thanks....

• You want the language reference desk. This page is only for help with Wikipedia itself. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

There are many online Chinese dictionaries. Try http://www.zhongwen.com - type in an English word and it will show a list of similar Chinese characters. Note, it is rare in Chinese to use a single Character for anything. Most things are described by 2-4 characters. --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Improving a page

I just added a bunch of information to the page for the Wildlife Conservation Society. The only problem is, I'm not sure how to format it so it's as easy as other pages to navigate. For example creating the box at the top of the page that tells you the content within the page below, and turning notable names in the entry into links so that people can be redirected to the entry on them. I would prefer if there is someone you have who can make the changes themselves, but if need be you can tell me what to do and I will make an attempt. Thanks for your help and for your great website.

Mike66.28.37.1 19:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Either you can tag it with {{wikify}} or you can do it yourself - the Table of Contents (which is what I think you're talking about) will create itself after a certain number of headings are made (four, I think?). The links can be made by adding double brackets around it. For example, [[Apple pie]] makes Apple pie. You can also change the link's text with a | (pipe symbol) like so: [[Pie|Apple pie]] which would give you Apple pie. For more information, try Help:Editing. Good luck! —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 19:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Selected article in portals?

If a portal has a selected article system set up that means that a new article is chosen once a week, is it then possible to make an archive page that automatically adds selected articles as they're dates pass. I realise that you can just put {{CURRENTMONTHNAME, 2024 (or whatever the page is called) on the archive page and it wont show up until the page is made, but what if the page is made a few weeks in advance so as to be ready.

Is there a way to do this? --chris_huh 20:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

To do something like that, you'd need a bot. Essjay's bot might be able to do it, if you ask him nicely. —Daniel (‽) 20:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Can I move the Contents table around?

I currently have the contents box showing up in quite an odd spot on my entry. Is there a way for me to insert it somewhere other than between the introductory section of my entry and where the first H2 section appears?

See: Hunter Engineering Company

Thank you!

If you write __TOC__ at the point in the article at which you want the contents to appear then they'll be placed there. --Cherry blossom tree 21:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

• I'm not sure what's so odd about it. It's the common place for a table of contents in Wikipedia articles. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Simple redirect.

How do I create an immediate redirect of "W. P. Haskett Smith" to "Walter Parry Haskett Smith"? So that someone asking for the first, gets the second? I tried to do it by creating a "W. P. Haskett Smith" article, but seem to have screwed it up. Thanks. Silentrunner 22:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The redirect seems to be working fine, for me...is there a specific problem you have? —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 22:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Try refreshing your browser by pressing Shift-F5. (Works like this in Firefox, and I believe IE as well) ColourBurst 22:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

On Internet Explorer, the hotkey for refreshing is simply F5, rather than Shift-F5. A refresh button can also be found under the "View" dropdown menu, and there is an icon of a piece of paper and two arrows going clockwise in the tab below the top. --Gray Porpoise 23:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

It bears noting that Shift+F5 should give a hard refresh (including reloading images) while F5 by itself should give a normal refresh, where cached information stays put. At least, that's the difference between apple+R and apple+shift+R on macs, I don't remember what it's like on a Wintel. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 00:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Ctrl + F5 is a hard refresh in IE. And the problem was that you didn't enter the #redirect command, you just wrote plain text (The MediaWiki engine is not that intelligent!). Bob Castle has already fixed this. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 11:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Web address redirects

I have a lot of spare time on my flippers, and I've created redirects to the articles for editions of Wikipedia with over 50,000 articles from their web addresses (e.g. eo.wikipedia.org). Would it be a good idea to create redirects from web addresses to the articles of smaller Wikipedias, or would they probably get listed on Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion? --Gray Porpoise 22:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• I can't think of any specific page regarding this, but I wouldn't recommend this. People who visit English Wikipedia should get English articles. Besides, cross-language redirects don't work and I would remove them citing the speedy deletion criterion for external links.- Mgm|^(talk) 08:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
• I think what Gray Porpoise means is that anyone viewing the article eo.wikipedia.org on the English Wikipedia would be redirected to the article Esperanto Wikipedia, also on the English Wikipedia. No cross-language redirects are involved. --=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 09:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, that's what I meant, Amos. --Gray Porpoise 10:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Many smaller Wikipedias don't have articles anyway. —Daniel (‽) 11:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

There are articles for some Wikipedias, such as those with 10,000-50,000 articles. Would it be a good idea (or at least not a bad idea) to redirect to them? --Gray Porpoise 11:09, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

How do you create a redirection? Is that even what I need to do?

I recently created an entry for the Pensacola Museum of Art, but when I tried searching for it, I typed in "pensacola museum of art" in the search box and not only was I not taken to thta article, but my article didn't even show up on the search page! Is the search box Case-Sensitive? Because I search for things all the time with out paying attention to the case but it has never mattered. Am I supposed to redirect "pensacola museum of art" to "Pensacola Museum of Art"? If so, how do I do that> — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaEditora (talk • contribs)

Yes, the searches are case-sensitive, except that the first word is always capitalized, and yes, you would need to create a redirect page. You can learn how to create a redirect here. Generally, people create redirect pages for common capitalization differences, which is why you may not have noticed it in the past. It's not a big deal, in fact it's fairly standard. Good luck! —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 00:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

For a redirect from another capitalisation, please put {{R from other capitalisation}} after the redirect markup. --Gray Porpoise 00:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The search doesn't immediatley show up new articles, it can take days before it is indexed. Viridae^Talk 00:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#An article doesn't show up in the search. Like it says, "search" is infrequently updated but case insensitive and "go" usually masks the fact that article names are case sensitive. In your example, the "go" algorithm doesn't work so you should add a redirect. I'd suggest Pensacola Museum Of Art. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• Usually words like "of" aren't capitalized. If case is her problem I suggest Pensacola museum of art as a redirect. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

How do I create an archive?

I've been trying to clean up my talk page so that only recent discussion appear on it, however, I don't know how to archive a previous discussion. Please help. You can respond here or on my talk page, whichever is more convenient. Ramsquire 23:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You can create a subpage of your usertalk that's something like User_talk:Ramsquire/Archive and copy the content from your talk page that you want to archive, or there's probably some way to do it with a bot, but I'm not really familiar with bots. I'll leave a note on your talk page too, that I answered. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 23:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You might want to read How to archive a talk page too. Brian 23:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Thank you for your help. Ramsquire 00:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

How do I cite my resorces

Excuse me. I just wanted to know how to cite my information. Please anser.Aberon Jones 01:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:REF should help you. Viridae^Talk 01:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation page

Is there anything special that needs to happen to make a disambiguation page? Where can I read up on making them? I am thinking about James Lewis and James W. Lewis. Anchoress 02:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Read WP:DISAMBIG Viridae^Talk 02:27, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much! I'll get reading. ;-) Anchoress 12:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Linking...

If im talking about a city. Lets say NYC. and i mention a metro. Should the link be to the noun metro, or to the NYC metro system, if such an article exists?

Pro: you get linked to a relevant location.

Con: The link could have little relevance to the general subject. SvenGodo 03:08, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The usual style is to link to the article that has the best context. In that example, I think NYC Metro would be more appropriate. I'd be willing to be the NYC Metro article links to Metro, so people can get more granular info if they need it. The Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) page discusses linking in more detail. Shell ^babelfish 03:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• I second that. When you are writing about films instead of linking to a year, it's also custom to link to "2006 in film" instead of just "2006". - Mgm|^(talk) 08:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Search engine question

Wondering whether I have to do anything special to get my article indexed in the search engine? I added it a few days ago, but it doesn't pop up when I

down less often and it can search for variant spellings and capitalisations). Go to Google and type "site:en.wikipedia.org (search term)" to search Wikipedia via Google. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 12:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!

4PL

WHAT IS 4PL??? WHAT IS THE DEFINITION FOR 4PL —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.42.2.22 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

You may find the answer at our article 4PL. Otherwise, try the Wikipedia:Reference desk - this page is for questions about using Wikipedia. They may find it helpful if you provide more information (is it a computer term? business? engineering?) --Sam Blanning^(talk) 12:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Should pricing and dollar amounts be inflation adjusted?

I've seen several articles that reference a dollar amount for a specific period in time (e.g. Videocassette_recorder) with no indication of whether the amount is adjusted for inflation.

I've searched through the Wiki style guides and FAQ's and there's no standard for this. It's my opinion that because the Wiki "could be printed at some point", that all amounts should be in non-adjusted dollar amounts, or at the very least, stated that they are inflation adjusted to some date. --Qexter 14:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

You could point out, if necessary, that the prices are in X dollars, where X is the year of the statement. That's a fairly standard way of describing a price/value over time. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• Monetary values are generally given in whatever the amount was at the time it was calculated or recorded. Inflation correction is only really needed in comparisons between different years or in economic context. - Mgm|^(talk) 16:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

My edition to an article

I recently add a "Glossary of Card Counting" to the article on Card Counting. When I went back to chedk the citiation today it wasn't there. Why? I received some notes that I didn't understand under the New Messages click. Please explaing to me why my "Glossary" is not eligible to be added to the article on Card Counting. Thank You, Jay Friedlander fpyaj95@... email removed to protect from spam —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.188.116.71 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't find the edit you mentioned (in your contributions or in the history of Card counting). Perhaps your computer crashed, and the edit wasn't made? —Daniel (‽) 16:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I found the edit (diff) here. I suspect that its placement at the very end of the article and its layout, which created a large number of boxed sections, probably caused a regular editor of the page to remove it as problematic. You might want to go to the Talk:Card counting page and discuss the insertion of some of this information, and whether it's suitable for the article in question. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 16:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The glossary was added by User:Jay_friedlander on August 13. It was formatted in a rather disgusting fashion. On August 14, it cleaned up and renamed "Typical Traites (sic) of a Card Counter". That was further cleaned up throughout the day and then deleted by User:Rray for being original research - which is not allowed on Wikipedia. --Kainaw ^(talk) 16:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

how do i delete a picture i uploaded

--Amirstal 19:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

If it was a mistake and it's not used anywhere, add {{db-author}} to the page. —Centrx→talk • 19:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, directly asking an admin in conjunction helps. — [Mac Davis] (talk)

Redirect problem: page vanished

V: The New Mythology Suite now redirects to wikiversity (presumably because of the "V:" in the title). All the links to this page don't work anymore (e.g. the links in this article). How can we get this page back? Petergee1 19:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I would ask a developer, either User:Brion VIBBER or User:Tim Starling. Prodego ^talk 19:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I have asked about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Interwiki redirects bumping into articles; there was a similar issue with another article just today as well. —Centrx→talk • 19:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Tab order of sign in page

I'm used to using the keyboard to fill out sign-in forms. The sequence is generally:

• Type user name
• <TAB>
• Type password
• <TAB>
• <SPACE> (or <ENTER>) to submit the form

On Wikipedia, the next field in the tab order after password is the E-mail a password button, and not the Log In button. Can this be changed? I keep e-mailing myself new passwords, and even though I can still go ahead and use the old password and disregard the e-mail, it gets a little irritating. --Silvaran 19:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC) (Firefox on Ubuntu Dapper Linux, UA is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.5) Gecko/20060731 Ubuntu/dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.5)

Just press enter (return) after you've typed your password. —Daniel (‽) 19:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• It used to tab onto the login button. Why was it changed to begin with? That's the second time I send for a password in two days when I didn't need one. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

If its really that big of an issue for you, you can raise your issue here: WP:VP/T.--NMajdan•talk 19:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

register

I keep trying to find the to create a username to create an article but i can't find it can some one help me?!?!?

Top right corner, there is a link to log in / create an account.--Kchase T 20:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Commercial Link?

I would like to add a good resource on psoriasis to the psoriasis page but I don't know if it's commercial or not. Here is the link: http://www.healthtalk.com/psoriasis/index.cfm Can I add this to the external links section?

It doesn't look like a commercial site to me. Well done for asking first! —Daniel (‽) 20:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Unprotect

Could someone please unprotect my talk page? Mo-Al 22:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. For future reference, you should make such requests at WP:RFPP. Prodego ^talk 22:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Mo-Al 22:20, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Creating an entry with the same name as another entry

I would like to create an entry for "Sun Studio". But there already is such an entry. But the "Sun Studio" I'm talking about is the collection of compilers and tools from Sun Microsystems and not the famous recording studio of the same name. See http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio

So can I do this? rchrd 22:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Rchrd, you can do that with a disambiguation page. Icey 22:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• The other option is to put a descriptor in parentheses, such as Sun Studio (compilers). — Reinyday, 03:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

contacting a member

$Insertformulahere$ A member posted interesting comments on a talk page and I would like to talk to him personally. I looked on how to contact another member of wiki, and it simply said to type user: <username> and then select "email user" in the toolbox. However, there is no such option on my toolbox. How do I get in contact with this wikipedia user? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mike333221 (talk • contribs) .

To email a user, you have to provide an email address for your account (which they will see if you send them an email). The other way is to put a message on their talk page, i.e. "user talk:<username>". -- Rick Block (talk) 02:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

hallo dear concerned i have read your message about change of my name which infact is a E Mail i have gone through the istructions but could not understand how to change it with my name IQBAL My e mail which is displayed is as under <email removed>.please change it with my name iqbal

thanks iqbal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iqbal2300@yahoo.com (talk • contribs)

You can request your name be changed at Wikipedia:Changing_username. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 03:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

UCIMED

Hello! I just wanted to ask how can I make my UCIMED wikipage appear in search engines such as yahoo and google. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huaizhi (talk • contribs)

Usually search engines have a way to rank pages by popularity or relevance to the search term. Therefore, there is no real way to artificially push your page up in ranks. You might be able to pay money to have your page displayed as an advertisement, but high-traffic sites like Google tend to charge a LOT of money so that may not be the best thing to do.

At any rate, your question really has nothing to do with editing or using Wikipedia and so should probably have been directed elsewhere. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 03:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• Wikipedia articles tend to be picked up by search engines automatically. Patience is the key. - 87.209.70.231 04:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Keakealani, you have misunderstood the situation. The OP was asking about Universidad de Ciencias Medicas, or UCIMED, which he has created. Regarding the question, as explained in the first answer in the VFAQ, Wikipedia's search engine is indexed very infrequently. It will probably take a while until your page is indexed. The google engine is much quicker - it shouldn't take more than a few days, and as anon said, you don't need to do anything for that. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 09:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Creating an archieve for a talk page

Hi there, I want to archieve a talk page. Talk:World War III It is getting quite long, and a lot of the discussions are no longer relavent to the material as the artical has now split in two. Help? Motorfix 03:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• Please see the instructions at Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page. — Reinyday, 04:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleting?

I need to delete a post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesinsight

I made it but realised you are not supposed to do things about your own sites, so can it be removed please. Thanks.

• Thanks for letting us know. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, you could just add the tab {{db-author}} to the page. Brian 18:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)btball

how is it pronounced?

Hello, Is it possible that you put phonetic symbols for names for those who do not speak English and/or are not familliar with the English/north american names??

Thank you

That is why there is a Wikiepdia in many other languages, so you can read the one that is in the language you prefer. --Kainaw ^(talk) 13:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

For many articles when an editor believes that a name or unusual word will be difficult for people to know how to pronounce they included the IPA version of that word. If there's a particular word where you think it would help the article by including the IPA, you can leave a comment on the talk page of the article or be bold and add it to the article yourself. Brian 14:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Restoration of deleted article request page

Is there a page in Wikipedia to request restoration of an article due to being speedy delete, so the article can be nominated for Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion. (Reason: No consensus) Hello32020 14:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you are getting at but try WP:DRV. Viridae^Talk 14:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Image won't show up

Can anyone figure out why Image:BeersSteersandQueers.jpg won't show up on the Beers, Steers, and Queers pagein the album infobox?

thanks

--The Talking Sock talk contribs 15:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it was a typo. Either way, it works now. Garion96 (talk) 15:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

This is really really weird: History.

Oh well, now it works --The Talking Sock talk contribs 17:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

DELETION

I know this question may seem dumb, but how do I delete a picture that I uploaded? Zabuphia 15:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Only administrators can delete images, but if you add the {{db-author}} tag to the page, someone should come around a take care of it. -- Natalya 15:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Help for a computer idiot

Through Google, I found a Wikipedia link to a building that is going up on the campus of my alma mater, Franklin & Marshall College. So far so good. But then I started checking all the info on F&M and found lots of errors, but one bothered me the most.

In a section on the history of the College, under 21st century, I found a reference to January 19, 2006 (two days after Ben Franklin's 300th birthday; the College delayed the day-long celebration of his birth because the students had not yet returned to campus). One of the day's activities included a lecture by Edmund Morgan, a Franklin scholar, which indeed he is, but on that day Walter Isaacson, another Franklin scholar and author of a highly praised biography of Ben, gave the keynote lecture. The day itself was called the "Franklin Experiment."

I tried to edit the "mistake," by replacing Edmund Morgan with Walter Isaacson, but I don't think I did it correctly. I just opened my "account" last night, as Wikwonk, and then a half hour ago started to ATTEMPT the change/edit. I don't think I succeeded.

Wikwonk 15:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome. You're correct, your edit was not made. You might want to read how to edit a page. I've also supplied some good getting started information on your talk page. Brian 16:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)btball

New Slang Word

Does Wikipedia accept new slang words or only articles?

• No. Wikipedia does not accept new slang words for a variety of reasons.

1. We're an encyclopedia, not a dictionary.
2. new slang is usually unverifiable or non-notable.
3. Wikipedia is not the place to promote something new. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• But there is a sister project, Wiktionary (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Main_Page), which is a dictionary that accepts words in use. Kdammers 17:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

But Wiktionary is not the urban dictionary. Don't go nutz. — [Mac Davis] (talk)

• Yes, let it be clear that wiktionary doesn't accept new slang either. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Avoiding clustered section [ edit ] links

Notice for example Sky and Cleopatra's Needle which have __NOEDITSECTION__ to avoid clustered [ edit ] links. These are apparently caused, in at least some browsers, by all the right-aligned images in those articles. Is there a better solution than doing away with the [ edit ] links altogether? (note that you cannot see the [ edit ] links in previews or older revisions; you'd have to actually remove __NOEDITSECTION__ from the article and save it in order to see what I mean by "clustered") --144.92.32.246 18:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Move the photos to a different page, such as "Photos of Cleopatra's Needle". Do you need 10 pictures of the same thing to get the point across? Mainly, people just want their picture on the article. The same thing happens on an article I keep an eye on: hedgehog. Everyone wants a picture of their own hedgehog on the page. --Kainaw ^(talk) 19:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but that isn't helpful. --144.92.32.246 20:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:How to fix bunched up edit links. -- Rick Block (talk) 02:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit Summary

What is an Edit Summary and why and when should I use it?

--Que? 19:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Help:Edit summary ? --144.92.32.246 19:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

As a note, you really should always use an edit summary unless there's a pressing reason not to - it lets editors look at the history and know what happened without having to check the diffs every time. But yes, that link should help. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 21:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Article deleted

I wrote an article recently about The College of Westchester, which has since disappeared. The information was factual, and it's a real school that isn't listed in Wiki despite other schools like it being listed. I wondered why it had been removed?

Please post reply to my "talk" page. Thanks! RoaringMice 19:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Replied on talk page.--NMajdan•talk 19:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

External links

On the page for Michael Emerson, we're having a bit of a problem with external links. Someone keeps removing all but 1 of the links. The 1 link they're leaving up is for an unofficial site, that simply has information copied from the article. I'm confused as to why he/she keeps inserting that link, but removing the other 3. The other 3 are:

1) A fan message board, which I can understand being removed. 2) A link to Emerson's off-Broadway theater history. 3) A link to Emerson's Broadway theater history.

I've tried reverting, but they revert it back. I tried getting them to leave their reasons for this on the talk page twice, but no response. Am I misinterpreting Wiki policy here by thinking that the unofficial site that has simply copied the information from the Wiki article has no more place in External links than the other 3 links? It's starting to piss me off, but I'm not sure what to do about it, since reverting and discussing it isn't working. -Flummery 19:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Be careful to avoid the three revert rule, but I think you're probably in the right - at the very least the editor should explain why he or she is reverting your edits, and I assume you already have explained it. You may want to get a third opinion or request a comment so that you can display a sense of consensus in your side of the argument. At any rate, you may want to check out Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 19:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Linking Images?

I've uploaded an image but don't see how to link it so that the image appears in an article.

Is there a how to page on this?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spamdumpster (talk • contribs) .

Hi. Please see WP:PIC, WP:IMAGE and WP:IMG. In short though, the code in use in most articles is [[Image:name of image|thumb|caption text]].--Fuhghettaboutit 19:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Walter Devereux, Lord Ferrers of Chartley

Walter Devereux (c. 1431 - 1485) was a minor member of the English peerage and a loyal supporter of the Yorkist cause during the Wars of the Roses. He was killed at the Battle of Bosworth Field, fighting for Richard III.

Walter was born in Weobley, Herefordshire. At the age of only thirteen, Walter married Anne Ferrers - who predeceased him by seventeen years - and became Lord Ferrers of Chartley in right of his wife in 1462. As a Yorkist, he held many offices under Edward IV. In 1461 and 1469, Walter was commissioner of array for Herefordshire, Shropshire and Gloucestershire, as well as Worcestershire in 1469. He also served in 1470 and 1471, as joint commissioner of array for Herefordshire, and then again in 1474 for Herefordshire and Shropshire.

Walter's military career was also thorough. He fought at Towton in 1461, where he was made a Knight of the Garter. He also fought at Barnet and Tewkesbury.

Death

Walter Devereux supported King Richard III during Richard's reign, and fought at Bosworth on the 22 August 1485. There, Lord Ferrers commanded in the vanguard under John Howard, Duke of Norfolk, alongside Sir Robert Brackenbury and Thomas Howard, Earl of Surrey. Devereux was slain during the initial fight with the Earl of Oxford's opposing van, fighting next to the young John, Lord Zouche. An in-law, Sir John Ferrers, was also killed at Bosworth.

|- style="text-align: center;" |- style="text-align:center;"

|style="width:30%;" rowspan="1"|Preceded by

{{{before}}}

| style="width: 40%; text-align: center;" rowspan="1"| Baron Ferrers of Chartley
1462 - 1485 before=Sir William Ferrers

| style="width: 30%; text-align: center;" rowspan="1"| Succeeded by

John Devereux

|-

History: Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton

August 17, 2006

I am somewhat confused as to where to lodge my comments of my editorial changes to the Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton pages I have made. I hope this reaches someone who will read this and answer. Here goes: I have made several additions, several changes, and a few deletions to these two pages. Several years ago,I was a Researcher, and did an in-depth project on Burr and Hamilton on and off for eight years, using Burr's life as the core of the study. I read maybe seven or eight biographies, most of them turning out(with further research)to be highly biased, and sprinkled with unproven accusations about the man. Often a contemporary critic (friend or enemy) of Burr or Hamilton would be used with no corroborating evidence or proof, other than the critic's own opinion. Strong myths about the men have proliferated unchecked for over two centuries, many of them unfounded in fact. Using the Library of Congress, the New York Historical Society, and a recent, two-volume study of Burr, I weeded out many "facts" about them. Using only personal letters, many diaries and newspapers and journals of the time, I believe I cleared up a lot of misinformation about Burr, and, by virtue of the study, of Hamilton, and have added information that I hope would give fuller portraits of the two men. Especially helpful were conversations with Milton Lomask, who published a two volumes life of Burr after spending two years (several days a week)in the Library of Congress, where he was given a room and an assistant. A popular writer of historical biographies and a fierce fighter for truth, Mr. Lomask's biography, "Burr," was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize in 1980. It was published in 1979 by Farrar - Straus - Giroux. (Mr. Lomask had new information on Burr that came when the country of Spain opened up their Archives in 1968, clearing some of the myths about his "Conspiracy" in the Southwest.)

I hope this goes to the correct place, and would appreciate any help on these matters. ````User Bruno Monkus (only my user name). Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.133.159 (talk • contribs)

What is your question? This is a Help Desk for questions about how to use Wikipedia and how to edit, and I don't see your question here...If you are intending to delete things because you think they're biased, be bold, but also recognise that showing both sides is more neutral than showing neither side. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 20:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand what you're asking. This really seems like a giant wall of text to me, and I don't really get the relevance to the Help Desk x_x; If you are trying to edit a page, you will need to search for that page (or type the address in manually) and click the "edit this page" tab. From there, you can insert whatever you want (provided that it falls under all the various rules like WP:NPOV and the like...Is that what you're trying to ask? I'm sorry, but I am really unclear as to what your problem is. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 21:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Lodge your comments on the pages Talk:Aaron Burr and Talk:Alexander Hamilton. Every article has a talk page, accessed by the "discussion" tab at the top of the page Clappingsimon talk 12:33, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

When editing a page, don't enclose your new text in double braces like {{ and }} . On this wiki they are reserved characters. They cause your text to display in red with the word Template: inserted. Clappingsimon talk 12:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Can this be done??

I'm curious...

Is it possible for someone to find your IP address when you are logged on? --BoWavem0n 21:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Only a small handful of people have the permissions to do that; it's called Checkuser. The privacy policy dictates that they can't do it without good cause. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

user name

How can I find out if a user name I have in mind for myself, or something very much like it, is already in use by someone else?

• Try registering it. If it is taken, it won't work. Alternatively, go to User:theirusername and see if it has a userpage, talk page and/or any contributions (be careful, some names are registered and not used yet. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

  The easiest and perhaps best way is to look up your proposed name at Special:Listusers. Most users don't have user pages and (curiously) haven't made any contributions. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know the page that shows particular page statistics...

Does anyone know the website that shows statitics for each article on wikipedia (e.g. % edits for each user on every wikipedia page) Hello32020 23:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

- Yes. You can visit the web page [7] (Design Methods 01:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC))

Mara Salvatrucha gang appears to be editing their article extensively

I'm doing what I can to fix up the grammar, NPOV, punctuation, formatting, citations, practically everything, but the article is messed up on a scale I have never seen on wikipedia. The way it's written (almost no citations, apparently first-hand knowledge, the NPOV issues, and the poor grammar) suggests that members of that gang are probably doing a lot of editing on that article. The page has also been vandalized more than a couple of times, suggesting that gang rivalries are taking place on wikipedia, but it may be just be random. Anyway, this is just unbelieveably frustrating. I've added the cleanup tag, I've added it to the list of articles that need cleanup, I've added a note about cleanup in the discussion, and I've added the article to my watchlist to try to keep it from getting any worse (no more than a day after I added the cleanup tag, someone had removed it and added more uncited information!). Less than a day after I added the cleanup note in the discussion, a user without an account replaced the entire discussion with one comment. What else can I do to help fix the article? -NorsemanII 04:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Normally I would recommend getting the attention of a Wikiproject with this article under its wing. Unfortunately, I do not know of one. You can have a look at Wikipedia:List of WikiProjects to see if you can find a wikiproject which might be interested in this article. If not, I guess your best bet is to make sure the cleanup tag stays in the article, and wait a few weeks until someone comes around to sort it out. If that doesn't work we can try other things (I have no idea what those things might be right now, but let's take it one step at a time). -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:25, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Convert Microsoft Word to Wiki

Is there a converter that will convert text from Microsoft Word to Wiki format? I would copy and paste, but subscripts, bold, etc. are not kept using that method.

Thanks --CoolGuy 04:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Found this on Google, see if it works for you. WP 11:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Hooray University of British Columbia!Anchoress 12:13, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect Information

Hi:

I've never done this before and want to know how to fix the following page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aclu#Structure

The error is in the listing about California having chapters. California has three "affiliates" not chapters (N.CA, S.CA, AND SAN DIEGO/IMPERIAL COUNTIES). Each affliate then has local chapters in the immediate and surrounding areas. These tend to be in major cities or urban areas.

All State-driven ACLUs are called "affiliates". A small state may have one affilate. A larger state, like CA, has three affilates with possibly a 4th in the making.

You see how you edited this page to add your request? Just do the same thing to that section of the ACLU page. It's that simple (just click on the edit box above each section for easier editing, the one below the structure section will edit the section below it, not the one you want. If that's you want, though, you could always hit the "Edit this page" button at the top of every Wikipedia page and scroll through all the text to get to that part). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 05:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Fixing a template

This isn't a newbie question, but rather one regarding a template, Template:WikiProject Ethiopia. I actually don't know that much about creating templates (I modified and merged already used templates to create this one), so I would appreciate it if someone well-versed in WikiCode would help me. Currently, the "Top" and "High" assessments show up on article talk pages as having about 3 lines of height instead of the intended one line as it is for "Mid" and "Low." I can't figure out why this is the case, as I made the High, Mid, and Low assessments from copying the already extant "Top" designation (from the templates I used to make this template) and simply changing the wording. Can somebody figure it out? — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 05:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

can't seem to edit the section I want to edit

Hi there,

I am just too tired and lazy tonight to sort through all the stuff about editing entries, and so I'm just plain hoping somebody else will correct this mistake.

In the introductory section on Andreas Schroeder, it states he is from Robert's Creeek, B.C. That should be Roberts Creek, without the apostrophe.

I can edit the stuff below that, but not that section. I'm hoping somebody else will take care of it because I'll probably get sidetracked and not make it back here.

Thanks. Ruth Michaels 07:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Just click on the "edit this page" tab on the top of the window. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 07:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I was clicking on the edit links along the righthand side. Didn't see the one at the top. Ruth Michaels 07:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I figured as much. That happens a lot. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 10:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Untitled question

Dear editors,

If one is visiting your site it is extremely annoying that one can not leaf the site. When I have gathered the information I want to leave the web page in a simple way instead of closing down Explorer. Could you please change that?

Thank you.

With kind regards,

A. Krielen194.39.218.10 12:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried using the "Back" button of your browser? Can you give an example of a site where there is a simple way to leave? -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 15:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

droplifting

am a new user of wikipedia i want to know the meaning of the word drplifting196.0.12.110 12:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

As a new user, the first thing you need to know is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia full of articles about almost everything. You can type droplifting into the Search box at the left and see what comes up. Notinasnaid 13:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Transferring images to other languages

IS it generally ok to reuse an image that is already being used on say, the English wikipedia, and reuse that image on the Spanish wikipedia? I've noticed that there are a lot of articles which would be well served by an image, and one exists on the English site. Thanks - Xobxela 12:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Check the image license in each case, and make sure it is compatible. Different Wikipedias have different policies e.g. no fair use is allowed in the German Wikipedia (so there are, e.g. very few pictures of celebrities, album or book covers). Notinasnaid 13:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The Spanish Wikipedia does not allow fair use, nor uploads to the local wiki. If you have a free image that you want to use there, upload it to Commons instead, where it can be used in all projects. Titoxd^(?!?) 08:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Changing article title

How do I change the title of an article? The one I had in mind was Isothermic titration calorimetry which is more commonly referred to as Isothermal Titration Calorimetry. Also I capitalised the wrong letters in my article Serum amyloid P component--Simon 12:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The best thing to do is to redirect the page. So make a new article (with a correct title) and copy paste all the text to the new page. After that, change the old page with #REDIRECT [[Insert text]]. Good luck, take care -- Imoeng 12:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Cheers--Simon 13:09, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Cutting and pasting loses the page history. The correct way to do it is to move the page, using the move tab at the top of the page. This moves the page history as well as the page and creates a redirect at the same time. Select the move tab and enter the new name, and a reason for the rename. It's that simple. Clappingsimon talk 13:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, I just read it from Help:Moving a page. Maybe its my bad, sorry! sorry! sorry!! :( Imoeng 13:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I think the tab should be named move/rename, so it was more obvious. Cheers Clappingsimon talk 13:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it's not so simple now that the manual c+p has been done. =( Powers ^T 13:36, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

From Wikitravel to Wikipedia

Just a short quick question. How can I use an image from Wikitravel (or maybe other Wikis) to this English Wikipedia? Cheers -- Imoeng 13:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Check the image license and make sure it is compatible with the English Wikipedia's copyright policies. Credit both the original source and the other wiki. Notinasnaid 13:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, but how to link the image? Using the same method? [[:travel:Image:blablabla]] ??? Cheers -- Imoeng 13:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

No, you'd have to upload the image to the English Wikipedia (or commons), respecifying all the license and source information. Notinasnaid 13:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

about wiki

What is s "wiki"?

Try to put "wiki" on the seach bar. Lets see what comes up ;) Take care -- Imoeng 13:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Old Songs

Who sang a song about God that (in part) says" He alone can hear a child's first prayer." Also," Though it makes Him sad to see the way we live, He always says "I Forgive". My husband and I have been trying so hard to remember who sang that song. I would like to know who wrote it if anyone happens to know that as well, but will be THRILLED to know who sang it so beautifully. My husband feels sure the man who sings the song is Al someone and I just have no memory of the singer's name. Can't seem to get it out of my head. How will I know if anyone answers?

This is a help desk for Wikipedia. You probably want to ask this on the Humanities Reference Desk (look at the top of the page). --Kainaw ^(talk) 14:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

But see [8]. · rodii · 15:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

golf

Can I pllay golf at Inverness golf Club in Toledo Ohio without being a member?----

This is a help desk for Wikipedia, not for the Inverness Club. I suggest you click on the link (in the previous sentence) which contains information about the club and a link to their website. --Kainaw ^(talk) 13:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

COLUMBUS, OHIO

i AM INTEREST IN THE 30 DAYS PRESENTATION THAT WAS FILM HERE IN COLUMBUS, OHIO HOW DO I GET THE VIDEO?

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Natalya 15:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Mirror sites

This isn't exactly a request for help, but I'm not sure where else to ask. I'm curious about what sites that mirror Wikipedia are allowed to reproduce. At algebra.com I came across all kinds of non-article stuff from Wikipedia such as user talk pages (for example [9]), project pages, templates, etc. Is that kosher? Just curious. 148.177.1.213 15:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

It is silly but legal (user talk pages are under the same license as the articles are). Kusma (討論) 15:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Redirect problem

I'm having a slightly bizarre problem with a redirect: while looking in the Spanish painters category, I noticed the page Antoni Saura which is nothing more than a copy of Antonio Saura, so I tried to make Antoni into a redirect (since Antonio is the artist's real name). However, after saving my changes, the page still looks the same, and does not function like a redirect. However, when I hit "edit" on that page, the #REDIRECT.... appears. What have I done wrong? Salmar 15:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

It seems to be alright now, although nothing changed...maybe I'm just crazy (-; Salmar 15:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

view atlas of the world

Hi,

I'm trying to acess the telescopic atlas ofthe world- the one in which you can zoom onto a city and see a specific location. Please help.

• What problem are you having? Notinasnaid 15:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you thinking of Google Maps? If not, Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Natalya 15:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

using the tilde as signature

Does one just use 4 tildes only when you sign your name?

Does typing Max Macks 15:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC) somehow put your user name in ?

Max

Yes :) 4 tildes gives you your username and current UTC date/time, 3 tildes just your username, and 5 tildes just the current date. On talk pages, one should always sign with 4 tildes. Cheers, Tangotango 16:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Picture deletion question

A few months ago, I uploaded a picture of mine to Wikipedia, but after some abuse (including others claiming my work as theirs) I decided to remove it, and managed to do so by db-author. However, in the meantime, another editor had copied the photo (in good faith) to Commons (as Image:Kimi Raikkonen 2005 Belgium.jpg). I tried to get it removed there as well, but since I'm not registered at Commons, my actions looked more like vandalism than anything else, and were treated as such. The image has even been protected now. Is there anything I can do? Nick Mks 16:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Probably not. The first time you uploaded the image you released it under a free license. I'm guessing it was either PD or GFDL or something simillar. In any case, other individuals now can use the picture as they see fit (within the terms of the license of course). --Hetar 19:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm aware that I do not have the right to demand it be removed. But Commons must have administrators as understanding as the one who speedied the image here? Nick Mks 20:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried asking on Commons? Many admins here are admins on Commons, but this is essentially a Commons-related issue, so your best bet is to ask there. Bear in mind that the image may already be (legally) used on non-Wikimedia websites/publications. Cheers, Tangotango 03:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding a new entry

How do I add a new entry, for a new definition?

Wikipedia is for articles, not definitions. If you just want to define a word, go to Wiktionary. If you want to add a new article: see Help:Starting a new page. You might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. —Daniel (‽) 20:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Prefab Housing Article

The articles on prefabricated housing, mobile homes, manufactured homes and prefabricated homes (the last and the first links are not the same), are all very low quality, and share tons of material. They must be merged and require the attention of someone more expierienced than me. Please Help, Thanks 4dhayman 21:09, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Check out WP:TM, with a variety of template messages you can put on these articles to get the attention of experts. You should also leave comments on their respective talk pages expressing your concerns (to avoid repetition, put the comment on one of them and links to it on the others). -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

• Isn't a mobile home something completely different? Anyway, I suggest you use {{merge}} and {{mergefrom}}. Don't forget to end any merge with a redirect (especially with different terms meaning the same thing so duplicates aren't created again). See also Wikipedia:Merge and Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Meiosis

Request:

I found online the web page "Meiosis - How Chromosomes are passed from parent to offspring." The web address is

http://www.contexo.info/DNA_Basics/Meiosis.htm .

I would like to see the results of Wikipedia people verifying and perhaps expanding on this piece. Very interesting, but is it true?

Thank you. Do enjoy your day. What a wonderful world. I am absolutely thriled to be alive.

Paul Kamrath < email removed to protect from spam :D >

Happily tohe article already exists - Meiosis - so add to it if you feel you can :D --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 21:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

• But be careful and don't copy stuff verbatim from the site you linked to. If there's anything to add, write it in your own words. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Redlinks

I'm embarassed asking such a stupid question, but when did redlinks suddenly change to red question marks Thanks--Joshdboz 21:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

You can change this setting in your "my preferences" tab in the upper right hand corner. Then click on the misc. tab. the first check mark will say "Format broken links like this (alternative: like this?).". Make sure the check box is checked. Doing this will make redlinks red agian. Thanks for asking!, and no the question is not stupid. Cheers!!! —— Eagle (ask me for help) 21:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! For a second I thought I missed some big new change. --Joshdboz 21:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

external link problems...i don't really know what i'm doing, but i wanna get involved

I was editing Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions, a game by Activision, and I couldn't figure out how to make my external link right or how to make a citations list after i already made a number citation. I was able to learn how to use references by looking at how others did it when i edited the osama bin laden page by adding information and a reference.

Responded on user's Talk page. —Centrx→talk • 23:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

About uploading images

I just created a new account here at Wikipedia, and I decided to put some images of the covers on articles about manga that didn't have them. I made sure that the image I wanted to upload was under the "Fair Use" policy, and saved it on a folder on my own computer with a .jpg extension. Then I went to the Upload page, got the address for the image in the Source field, chose a license, but when I tried to upload it, I got a message saying that the file was corrupt or having the wrong extension. I'm positive that the image file isn't corrupt. I tried the same thing with another image, saving it with a .jpeg extension this time, and I got the same error message again. This frustrates me. What should I do? Breed Zona 00:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Try asking at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). —Centrx→talk • 00:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Hoefle telegram

There is a fundamental translation error in the "Hoefle telegram" article? The German word "Zugang" simply means arrivals, rather then "deaths." This changes the total context of the article.

You can be bold and make any necessary changes to Höfle Telegram. If you would like to hear some more opinions, you can leave a note at Talk:Höfle Telegram. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

One little comment

Today i was searching for something that my friends told me to search for: "Pablo Pérez Gay Rossebach". I tried and it didn't appear. I asked one frined wath was happening and I was shocked. He told me you erased that article from web. I just wanted to tell you: HOW DARE YOU TO ERASE SUCH IMPORTANT ARTICLE??????!!!!! It might be irrelevant to you, but that article shows the life in an important school in México. If you don't put that article right know, all the community of students will boicot your web page. Just like the Boston Tea Party!, don't you think? Consider, my school has over 1 million students around Mexico and we have a lot of influence with others. Bye :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.154.198.212 (talk • contribs)

You can ask for the article to be reinstated at WP:Deletion Review. · rodii · 03:51, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

recipient of Nobel Peace

How do you select the recipient of the Nobel Peace? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.93.96.238 (talk • contribs)

I don't. Nobel Peace Prize might have your answer, though. Failing that, try the Reference Desk. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 04:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

add a dismabiguation page

I want to add a disambiguation page for "True Faith" which not only refers to a song by New Order. It's also the name of a Filipino band. Thank you.Doberdog 03:54, 19 August 2006 (UTC)Doberdog

Start by creating the article True Faith (disambiguation). Add all the possible links in the form of a bulleted list, preferably sorted alphabetically. Add {{disambig}} at the end of the article and save it. Now add {{otheruses}} at the top of all the articles that have been linked by the disambiguation page. Ask for help if you have trouble doing any part of it. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 04:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

You may want to take a look at Wikipedia:Disambiguation. You may also want to consider moving the pages to True Faith (band) and True Faith (song) respectively. It really depends on which is more notable (as in, likely to be searched). Good luck, though. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 05:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Editing confusion

Hi all, I was wondering if there is any really easy guide to starting a page, with links to websites. I'd like to start a page on Jesse Martin, and i've created a VERY basic one, however I am finding it SO confusing trying to work through the Wiki pages. Is there any other way to make things easier??? Thanks so much in advance for any help!--130.194.13.105 04:44, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Responded on IP talk page, at User talk:130.194.13.105. —Centrx→talk • 04:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

It's ok, think i've got it now...

Thanks anyways, ignore the above question. --130.194.13.105 04:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Strange login issue

Not sure if this is an accident or something different (or paranoia!). In less than a minute late yesterday (GMT) I was sent 8 changed passwords to my email address at a time when I was not on line. They were all "requested" from the same IP. At the very least I thought it worth mentioning? Thanks -- Nigel ^(Talk) 07:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Someone was clicking "send me a new password" like crazy, most likely to annoy you. Don't worry, keep editing normally, as those new passwords won't work unless you actually log in with them, and they will expire soon if not used. Titoxd^(?!?) 07:04, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - guessed that was it but thought I should check. Regards --Nigel ^(Talk) 07:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

about satelite image

195.229.242.89 07:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)–sir, i request to you to add the satelite image of madayi and surroundings.195.229.242.89 07:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

It'd help if you were a bit more specific: which picture, and which article? Links are always good. :) Luna Santin 07:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Which picture license is appropriate?

I wrote an article and wanted to add a picture. I tried to find out which picture license is the right one but I think it's really not explained in a sensible way. (Maybe this could be simplified??) It's very confusing and so I hope someone can quickly answer this simple question:

The article I wrote is about a person. This person owns the rights of a picture of himself that I would like to use. This person allowed me to use this picture for this article.

=> Which license is applicable?

Thanks in advance!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.76.63.138 (talk • contribs) .

You could use {{Promophoto}}, but a better idea would be to get the person to release the photo under the CC BY SA licence because it will make it easier for us. If you can secure that permission, use {{Cc-by-sa-2.5}} on the photo. Yes, those tags can be annoying, but you will get used to them after a while. Thank you for your contribution. WP 11:32, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Image tags

I have looked for informatin on this in several places, so I will copy my request here to see if that works.

Let's start with my first uncertainty. I have uploaded images that are by me [such as the ibeji], and looking at that set of tage, one was for an image that the creator permitted to be uploaded by a Wikipedian. I have used that, but questionably, and I cannot find that tag any more. It seems iffy, in that how can the site know that the agreement for another to upload is real? And what should one [I mean 'I'] do in such cases. The creator may not know Wikipedia, have no interest in it, not agree to personally upload, but it is fine with him/her for the image to be there in a valid license. --Dumarest 15:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

--Dumarest 12:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

• See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. For the images you created entirely yourself use {{GFDL-self}} {{PD-self}} or an appropriate Creative Commons license. Images that aren't labelled as free by their owners cannot be uploaded. To ensure given permissions are real, they should email permissions@wikimedia.org from an email address that belongs to the website or organization the image belongs to. Owners who don't know Wikipedia or don't want to know it should be informed about the fact their images can be reused without them knowing if they are uploaded here. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Structural cohesion

I edited the article structural cohesion, and noticed that the "edit" buttons are now misplaced. Is there something wrong I did with the formatting of the templates? --HappyCamper 17:42, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

It looks fine to me; could it be your browser? -- Natalya 21:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

"The" and disambiguation

I would like to know if disambiguation should cover both forms of an expression. I've put up a merger suggestion for Awakening and The Awakening which are two different pages listing pages which all have the same key word, with or without "The". Ditto for Race (which points where it should), The Race and Race (disambiguation), both of which, I'm starting to think, should point to the latter. I'm a frequent editor for The Race, and I almost feel that having had the link first is unjust for all other instances of sporting events which claim the name. The Race could be moved to The Race (Worldwar), for instance.

Please Wikipedia, enlighten me!

Arasaka 17:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

You are corrct in your thinking. As far as I interpret consensus the disamb page should generally be at The Race with the current page moved - perhaps to The Race (world war) or The Race (fiction) --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 18:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

And for "Awakening" as well? Arasaka 21:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

real time operating system

i have read about real time operating system from wikipedia page ,that a real time operating system responds to input instantly and DOS and unix are not real time.explain with examples that how dos is not a real time operating system.

Real time operating systems include facilities for programs to gain control at reasonably accurate real time intervals. Non-real time systems don't. In DOS you can construct requests that will block other programs from running for arbitrarily large amounts of time. -- Rick Block (talk) 19:35, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Information boxes on Talk pages

Hi,

I've been seeing a lot of boxes appearing on talk pages like, "This user is a resident of Australia," proceeded by an icon relevant to the topic. I looked at the source of these, and it's simply a template. Question is, is there a list of all of the available boxes, because I wouldn't mind doing my user page up with some.

Thanks in advance ;)

try this page Wikipedia:Userboxes CG janitor 21:44, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Removing red links

I have made a list in my userspace of a number of category pages that I want to give some attention to. Some of these categories have gone through CFD and now are nothing but redlinks on my page. Is there any easy (automated) way to remove them from my list, or do I simply have to remove them manually one-by-one? CG janitor 21:40, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

• No there's no automated way, cause usually redlinks are something you want to keep around (especially when they are integrated in an article rather than a list). You could however, use preview and take them all out in one edit instead of removing them one by one. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Deletion

Can someone delete thiswaste of space?

Tagged as CSD A3. I checked history, it's only had three edits, and nothing since July, so. Luna Santin 22:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

How to make table for a Wiki article?

Easy enough in Word Perfect, but I have not come across usable examples in Wiki articles of a template.* In particular I'd like to make a table with 2 boxes of text below text at top to make parallels more obvious. All of that within a box like:

THIS. If I could just keep the text from wrapping with my own typed columns, I'd have no need of any special table tools. Alas, I have not figured out how to keep the 2nd column from wrapping into the first.

• There was the example at bottom of my Talk Page that I copied, but it looks untransferable for my purpose.

Thx. Thomasmeeks 23:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Voila - the following may do what you ant - or give you an idea.

{|
!Column1 name
!Column2 name
|-
|Cell content1
|cell content2
|} Gives:

Column1 name	Column2 name
Cell content1	cell content2

Wiki template syntax can be awkward to begin withg but look at Wikipedia:Help for more info on using them. Any specific questions you have go ahead and ask on my talk page and I can walk you through it! --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 23:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Thx. Like your enthusiasm. From my failed efforts, it looks encouraging seeing some familiar stuff. This could make history (if anyone reads the article). I'll give it shot. BW, Thomasmeeks 01:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Libel?

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but could someone look at the discussion page of the Ben Bradshaw article, as I think he is being libelled. Indisciplined 23:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

In progress. Will watchlist page. Luna Santin 01:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

How do I establish an account in order to contribute?

I learned it is best to have an account for various reasons but I searched the mainpage and did not see anything labelled "How to establish an account." Please inform me. You make it difficult to establish an account. Zan Overall. Zanrumg@aol.com

Hi Zan,

Simply click here and choose a username (please see Wikipedia:Username first, and a password, and you're good to go! Please let me know if you have any issues, thanks! - GIen 02:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

• • On the main page there is a link in the top right corner that says sign in / create account. CG janitor 02:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Actually, if you're not logged in, it's on every page, not just the main page. - Mgm|^(talk) 15:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Featured article star

What happened to the gold star that used to be at the upper right corner of FAs? The file links seem to be OK but no star! --hydnjo talk 03:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

It's only displayed in monobook skin due to problems with various browsers in the other skins. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:55, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Argghhhh, I love classic. Any way to override on an individual basis (User/css) or something? --hydnjo talk 04:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Add the following (now commented out in MediaWiki:Standard.css) to User:Hydnjo/standard.css:

div.topicon {

position:absolute;

z-index:100;

top:120px;

display: block !important;

}

and do a "shift-reload". -- Rick Block (talk) 05:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Well thank you, that went well! --hydnjo talk 05:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

HELP!!!

how do i create a new entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeman590 (talk • contribs)

Creating_an_article should help. --Wildnox 05:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

On a side note, what are you creating an article on? --Wildnox 05:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Problems

Hi, I'm having a bit of a desagreement with another user, what can I do? Numbuh 201 06:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

It depends a lot on the type of disagreement, but Wikipedia:Mediation might help, or one of the more specific methods of mediation listed. You can also contact me on my talk page if you want, and I'd be happy to try to sort things out ^_^ —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 06:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Dispute resolution describes a number of ways in which you can resolve disputes. - Tangotango 07:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Oskat Forest Park

Hi Staff , I would like to tell you about a interesting eco tour product we are involed in,called <removed spam>. I am interested in your travel television series & how it works .If you would like to visit a place that you can get close to nature & is like a shapshot of so much New Zealand has to offer.We could have just what you have been looking for .Please visit our website at <removed spam> to find out more .203.109.169.208 08:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

First of all, none of us replying here are staff. We are just volunteers. Secondly, advertisment spamming like this is frowned upon by many of us. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 08:49, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

• We don't even have a travel television series. Make sure you send your messages to the right people. - Mgm|^(talk) 15:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Location-specific external links

Hello. I was looking at the salsa dance article, and apart from some obvious link-spam, there are also several links to salsa websites that are really only relevent to people living in a particular location (particularly San Francisco). In my opinion such location-specific links shouldn't be in a general article like that, but I can't find what Wikipedia's official policy on this is. Can anyone advise me before I start removing links?

Thanks! Zugvogel 09:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

This may help you. Also use the talk page of the article to voice your thoughts. You will get more inputs -- Lost^(talk) 10:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

• I totally agree with you Zugvogel. Unless those pages contain particularly useful info not specific area, they should be removed. - Mgm|^(talk) 15:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Viewing special characters

I am just trying to view Wikipedia pages, not edit.

I cannot correctly view the special characters used in pronunciations. They look like this: http://www.freemars.org/jeff/misc/Kuiper.png

I am using Internet Explorer 5.0, which is the version installed with Windows 98 SE. (I tried to download and install version 5.5, but wasn't successful.)

What do I need?

-- Jeff Root, in Minneapolis

The characters you're looking for are part of the International Phonetic Alphabet. According to the technical note at the bottom of that page:

"Most IPA symbols are not included in Times New Roman, the default font for Latin scripts in Internet Explorer for Windows. To properly view IPA symbols in Internet Explorer for Windows, you must change your browser font to another font which includes the IPA extensions characters, such as to Lucida Sans Unicode font, which comes with Windows XP; Gentium, Charis (SIL), Doulos (SIL), DejaVu Sans, or TITUS Cyberbit, which are freely available; or Arial Unicode MS, which comes with Microsoft Office."

Hope this helps! Ziggurat 11:05, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Question on adding an external link

I recently editted a page on the Film page by adding a link to a movie review website because I noticed Rotten Tomatoes was a link at the bottom. I received a comment on how that is inapropriate and it was removed. How can I add a free website link about movie reviews like some of the sites I saw listed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarqueeUnderground (talk • contribs)

Take a look at Wikipedia:External links, which talks about what should and shouldn't be linked to in the "External links" section of an article. -- Natalya 13:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleted edits

How do we keep track of the number of deleted edits a user has? Thanks. Aran|heru|nar 14:34, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

You can see how many deleted edits a user has by using toolserver tools like Interiot's (http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits) However, note that the toolserver currently has a replication lag of two or three months, so the data will be old and/or corrupted. Cheers, Tangotango 14:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Aran|heru|nar 14:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding a new page concerning religion.

A certain religion which will not be named in this particular question was not located on Wikipedia, and I as an individual willing to contribute attempted to create an informative and objective page about this religion.

This page was removed twice, both times without a warning, or a reason. The page was considered 'inappropriate', but I cannot see why. Please help me sort out this issue, as I truly do wish to contribute to the Wikipedia community.

Thanks in advance, Regards, Caitu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caitu (talk • contribs)

Sorry but unless you give some more info (ie a name!) and tell us what you wrote then we cant really help. Every issue is individual and can't be generalised --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 14:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

It looks like Caitu wants to create an article about Gandharism. He's been warned by an admin (Wknight94) to stop creating nonsense articles. A google search returns zero hits for Gandharism. I left a note on Caitu's talk page pointing out that information must be verifiable and that if Gandharism is real he needs to supply verifiable sources. Brian 15:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Caitu, you can see the deletion log here. It has been deleted because of non notability. Please go through the policy of Verifiability as well as Notability to understand more -- Lost^(talk) 15:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

specific heat

What is the specific heat of "Gel Refrigerant and Menthol oil"?

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost^(talk) 16:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Added appropriate links to Keri Russell

I added links to Keri Russell that were already on Felicity. I was reverted & scolded 4 adding spam links. I did not add spam links. All I did was add links that were ALREADY IN THE WIKI ENCYCLOPEDIA. I have been corresponding w the administrator who reverted me but he just keeps telling me " the links r spam " &" the links r inappropriate ". RockyMM, another user even said " the links r interesting not neccessarily spam ". My stance is that the links were already in wiki, all I did was add them to another wiki page where those same links r applicable.

So what to do? I dont want to get into a I edit- u revert-I edit-u revert wiki war, which I will loose bc he (the admin) will just ban me.

Thx alot, I luv luv luv wikipedia!

• It helps a lot if you tell us which IP or username you used to add these links. Anyway, you should read WP:EL. Links that are appriopriate for Felicity aren't neccesarily appropriate for an article on Keri Russell. Just because the links exist there, doesn't mean they can be posted anywhere else. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

  I assume this relates to the discussion at User_talk:208.58.196.156#Keri Russell External links. To reach a larger audience, the first step would be to bring this up at Talk:Keri Russell. An admin is not allowed to block you for a content disagreement the admin is involved in (if this happens it should be reported at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, unfortunately this will generally have to wait until the block expires). If either of you violate Wikipedia:Three-revert rule, you may be blocked. You might also want to refer to Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

security

i am a student and i am trying to answer this question. what is the external and internal security of wikipedia? Twolips 17:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)twolipsTwolips 17:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not obvious to me what you mean by "external and internal security". Nearly all pages are openly editable by anyone. All changes to any page are recorded (tracked to the user login or IP address that made the change) and can be reverted very easily, see Help:Reverting. There is a page protection feature allowing certain pages to be protected in various ways, see Wikipedia:Protection policy. The software itself runs on a large complex of servers in multiple computing centers, and although I don't know this for a fact I'd assume physical access to the servers is restricted. Login access to the servers is restricted to a small set of developers. Is this the sort of information you mean? -- Rick Block (talk) 18:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

HELP! Category Deletion : British Cultural Icons

Dear All - Can you shed any light on this? I reproduce below a note I have written to User:wub. Please leave me a msg here if you can explain what's gone on and what, if any action I can take, or if you can help.

Re: Category:British Cultural Icons Hello, wub. I have contributed to both Buckingham Palace and Trooping the Colour. I see that on both of these you recently removed the Category:British Cultural Icons with WP:AWB, citing WP:CFD. Relatively new to Wikipedia, I confine my activities to writing and the odd merge, and was unaware of this. Can you tell me what has happened to this popular and useful category? Has it been deleted? Or has it been merged? What has happened to the many articles which were under this category?

I will watchlist this page and check back here for an answer or would be grateful to hear from you on User talk:FClef

I am copying this note to the Help Desk and to a couple of Wikifriends more experienced than I, to see if they know what the fate of this category is. Best wishes. -- FClef

Thanks, HelpDesk. -- FClef (talk) 20:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I think you'll be interested in this discussion where the category was discussed for removal. I'm sure if you have a good argument against its deletion you can discuss it on the appropriate discussion page. —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 21:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

The discussion about deleting these categories is archived at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 August 9#Cutural_icons_categories. In general, the way to find things that "vanish in the night" is to check the deletion log, see Special:log/delete. In this case, if you plug "Category:British cultural icons" in the title box and hit "go", you'll get the same link I provided above. -- Rick Block (talk) 21:13, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Doug Marlett Commencement Address Wesleyan U. June-2003

Within 15 minutes after I read his commencement address under Kudzu Comics, it was gone! PLEASE put it back in!!! It contains his important definition of controversy! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.204.124.50 (talk • contribs)

I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. the Help Desk is for questions related to the use of Wikipedia and editing, and this really does not appear to be that sort of question. I might suggest using the Reference Desk, but you will need to be a lot more specific with your question or the editors there would not be able to help any more than I can, which is not much. —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 21:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps something related to the article Kudzu (comic strip)? Looking through its history, I don't see what you're talking about. -- Rick Block (talk) 21:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

adding edit summary after posting

I made a major change to an article but forgot to include an edit summary. How I can add it now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Classicragger (talk • contribs)

Add a Dummy Edit with a note like "The previous edit was blah blah blah blah". —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 21:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

For the future you can also get the software to prompt you to enter an ediot summary if you forget by going to your preferences, selecting Editing and ticking Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary then clicking save. Then you wont forget :D --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 22:11, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

"Ediot" summary? Was that a Freudian slip? JIP | Talk 16:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

how to edit my page

i woul like to know how to brief about myself in this website--ashwin 22:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

If you click on your name (ashwin) you can edit your user page to give us an idea of your editing interests etc. Just type what you want and click 'save page'. If you want to write an article about yourself for the encyclopedia, I would suggest reading Wikipedia:Autobiography first. Ziggurat 22:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

You may also want to take a look at Wikipedia:How to edit a page. Ziggurat 22:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

University of Wyoming page

There is an error on the University of Wyoming page on Wikipedia. The page lists that students are allowed to attend university sponsored theatrical and musical events for free, and this is not true. Student fees contribute to these events, and students are required to pay a small fee to attend events in the Theatre and Dance, Cultural Programs, and Music departments. Students are allowed to attend some events for free, but these are generally sponsored through the ASUW (Associated Students of the University of Wyoming), SAC (Student Activities Council) and CAC (Concerts and Convocation). Please correct this information on your page.

Sincerly, Leslie Gallagher leslieg@uwyo.edu

I copied this to the Talk:University of Wyoming page. Patleahy 00:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Citing Maps

Can you use a respected published map as the source for a fact, (e.g Panhandle Gap is at 6,800 feet)? If so, how do you cite the map? Patleahy 00:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I imagine so. As long as it isn't drawing speculative inferences from a map (eg Panhandle Gap looks a bit like a watering can) then there shouldn't be a problem. You'd cite it by giving as much information as possible - I imagine the title of the map / what area it covers, the scale, what series it is in (if any,) the publisher and the year of publication would all be helpful. --Cherry blossom tree 00:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

August 21

Age limits?

How old does one have to be in order to edit Wikipedia? 205.188.116.71 00:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Anyone of any age can edit. At Wikipedia we look at the quality of the edits, not at the age (or anything else) of the editor. See also Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia. Ziggurat 00:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Style (underline) changing?

For some reason, (on the same computer) links sometimes are not underlined and then later on they are underlined. I haven't changed settings on this computer. Why do they keep changing, once in a while? --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 02:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Links were just underlined a minute ago, and now they are not again. --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 02:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

It's a browser issue; someone asked about this just a few days ago, but I can't remember where the question was put. Answer in a moment... Ziggurat 02:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Ziggurat, how can it be a browser problem? If it's intermittent and without any precursory action? Anchoress 02:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah they were underlined for me for a couple of hours today. There's a thread about it just above, from a couple of days ago. It usually happens about once a month, but not usually for such a long time. Anchoress 02:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I'm misremembering; the previous answer went into detail, but I can't seem to find it! There's the one on redlinks, but not one on underlining. I know I've answered this before, and recently too. It's certainly a bug, anyway. Ziggurat 02:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Aha - Wikipedia:Reference_desk_archive/Miscellaneous/2006_August_10#Wikipedia_Underlining. Not a complete answer, but you're right, it probably isn't a browser issue. Ziggurat 02:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. I use Firefox, but it's said it happens with IE as well. Eh. --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 02:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

What do you have it set as in your preferences? I wonder whether it's only a problem when set on 'Browser default'. Ziggurat 02:55, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

It was 'browser default' up until now. I've changed it just now, hoping it won't happen again. --Zeno McDohl ^(talk) 02:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• I remember seeing this in WP:VFAQ. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Normally, a shift+refresh solves the problem. It occurs for me frequently. I am using IE6. -- Lost^(talk) 05:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

jimbo

can he send me any good porn?

Nah. Ziggurat 02:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

but...but...he's the porn king!

Creating an article

How do you create an article on a topic?

See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost^(talk) 05:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Requesting expansion for an article.

Hi. Simple question here, hopefully.

Is there a bracket - code to use to designate a page which needs expansion?

Since I have no details to add, nor time to research these details on my own, I'm hoping there's some way of calling the page's lack of details to attention, where those in the know can add to it at their leisure.

The page isn't really a "stub", in as much as it contains more than just a bare-bones summary - it's just completely lacking in history. --151.200.252.138 09:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe you're looking for {{expand}}. :) Luna Santin 09:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Now I am looking for {{Thank You}}. :-D --151.200.252.138 09:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Remember to stick it on the article talk page not the actual article (common mistake - I made it once) --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 09:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Shall do. --151.200.252.138 09:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Linking to sections of article and translation

How do I link a new article to a subsection of another article?

How do I persuade someone on the Scots wikipedia to translate a new article about Scottish history into Scots?

Thanks.

Answer to question 1, you need the title of the article and the section title. And then you can link to it as follows article name#section name. --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 12:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

How do i translate an article?

I want to translate articles into a different language but i am not sure of how to.

Am I supposed to create a new article in that language or is there a button or something?

• You are supposed to create a new article in the language you want to translate it in. Since the software can't know what the title should be (synonyms and all that) there's no button. You'll all have to do it manually. Human translation is better than machine translation. - Mgm|^(talk) 18:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• Just write the version of the article in the new language, and add it to the appropriate language version of Wikipedia in the usual way. Be sure to mention in the edit summary that you're translating from the English Wikipedia article. --Kwekubo 19:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

adding a biography

Can you advise me as to how one can post a biography of a notable person on Wikipedia? Thank you. Ned Davis— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.236.215.50 (talk • contribs)

As long as the person passes the requirements at WP:BIO then you can just create the article. Take a look at Wikipedia:How to edit a page, Help:Starting_a_new_page and the manual of style for poinhters on how to make a good article--Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 13:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC).

Just to note though that to start a new page you need to have a user account and be logged in. You may as well rtegister, its free!! --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 13:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

Hello, the band The Honest Mistake article was removed within minutes of it being put up as it wasn't deemed notable or something.

Now I'm aware notablility is relative to every person but I find the article quite worthy. Members of The Honest Mistake have previously supported bands such as The Vibrators, My Awesome Compilation, The Glitterati, Engerica, Ed Tudor Pole, Mendeed, Koopa, TAT (who have in turn supported The Offspring). Huge bands, most of which have their own pages... Our previous bands have had thousands of fans also.

Unfortunately you are right notability isd in the eye of the beholder. However on wikipedia we have general quidelnes for what can be included - this is simply to stop thousands of small bands such as the one you mention putting on articles that are infrequently viewed and normally used to advertise the band (not that I am accusing you of this). You see places like myspace are to promote a band for free etc. Wikipedia is about recording the facts and histories of large, important or well known bands. We do follow strict guidelines, which can be found here. Look at the first list and I dont think the band will qualify. Anyway if it does chances are it was speedied (what we call this kind of deletion) because it didnt establish notability in the article (the only time a band article can be speedied). If the band qualifies on that list add it again and make sure it is shown as notable in the article :D In fact post the link to it here if you do recreate and we can help --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 14:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, here's the link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Honest_Mistake

Ok... now you need to see if it meets any of the notability criteria, and make sure that your article includes the information that verifies this. If not, it will be gone very soon. I see that "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable" is in the notability list. However, "supported a band who were notable" isn't there, and it isn't clear whether the press reports, which aren't really more than a roster of bands at a summer festival count as "Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works ". Is featured the same as mentioned? Dunno. Notinasnaid 14:45, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Most of the press coverage was all on paper, that's one problem.

That's not a problem. References to printed media are fine, and in fact often preferable. They just have to be verifiable. · rodii · 15:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

How can they be verified?

Libraries? By the way, please sign your posts by adding four tildes (~~~~). It'll look like this, only with your information: · rodii · 16:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, seems a little complicated though Robb Blake 17:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

What do we do about unverifiable informations

I was browsing Starkville, Mississippi and I saw that the Trivia part had beed edited many times to change the name of people here. I couldn't find any template to bring the attention of someone about that, and I don't feel right about simply removing the content. What are we supposed to do with that sort of articles? Lucasbfr 15:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

One option is to tag it with {{fact}}. Another is to tag the section or entire article with {{sources}}. It's also ok to be bold and simply remove the information - in that case you might want to put a note on the talk page saying why you removed it (lack of verifiability). Thanks, Brian 15:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)btball

THanks a lot Lucasbfr 16:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Unused Username

Hi,

I'd like to know what is the policy on wikipedia for unused username? Are the automatically removed after a while?

I ask this because I've tried to create an account with the same name I have on the french wikipédia (Stevo(fr)) but it is already taken by someone who haven't published any thing (User:Stevo).

Thanks for answers

Stevo

There's a proposed Wikipedia policy to delete unused username after 90 days. However nothing's been implemented yet. Harryboyles 16:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Interwiki BJAODN, or something?

Look at the Portuguese article on Transformers (toy line). They show this nice picture:

Autobots... Transform and roll out!

even with a caption appropriate to the toy line and associated TV cartoon. However, the picture is of transformers, not Transformers. What do I do? I know very little Portuguese, so I don't know if I should contact the person who added it there. Can this be placed on an interwiki BJAODN page, or something? JIP | Talk 15:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Some misplaced question

My husband is trying to locate a long time friend who was employeed in the repair branch of your facility. His name is Lee P. Houston from Newton, GA. He was employeed by the civil service. If you could help us find our friend, we would be gratefully appreciated.

Thank you, CWO Elmer D. Hill

Wikipedia does not have a facility, or a repair branch. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia project, not a company. I think you have mistaken Wikipedia for some other site. Sorry. JIP | Talk 16:45, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Russian translation for a new English Page

I'm creating an English page for the Russian author D. N. Mamin-Sibiryak, and have found the Russian entry here. I haven't been able to find good English sources on the subject to begin with, and am thinking I should get outside help. Where should I go to find someone who can help with this? Bellemichelle 16:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Take a look at Wikipedia:Translation into English, you should be able to find someone to help you. -- Natalya 17:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

If you don't read Russian, you could go to babelfish, paste in the Russian text (in doses of 150 words) and get a (very) rough machine translation. You might be able to glean some information from that. Herostratus 17:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

aol

is this aol aim? Brennon60 17:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)Brennon

Is what AOL's aim? Notinasnaid 17:35, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

pronunciations of difficult names/words

Is there a convention for giving pronunciations on Wikipedia? I've seen some entries with sound (eg, Wroclaw) and some that give IPA (eg, Prague). If sound is preferred, is there a way to generate those? They all sound like they've been spoken by the same guy. Or do we just record our own? Mooncow 19:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Ideally they should probably have IPA and a recording. The recordings are all created by Wikipedians. In practice a small number of people make a lot of them so it is possible that you'll hear the same voice over and again. If you want help on making them then Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia is involved in a similar practice and will be able to help. --Cherry blossom tree 19:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, will work on the IPA bit. Recordings are a bit trickier for most people: a lot of folks don't have the software set up, or don't have the OGG codecs, or whatever, plus there are some people whose voices are just better than others for this kind of thing. Would it be a good idea to have some way to flag articles that "need" word/name pronunciations doing, and then people who are set up for it can go straight to that list and fire off a few dozen at a time or whatever?? Just a thought. Mooncow 21:55, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Articles I Would Like Advice On

Hi,

I own and operate the UK Whitegoods website in the UK. It is unique in the industry as it involves over 1000 members of the trade and presents things from an independent viewpoint.

However, in the course of running that site I have a lot of knowledge built up over the years on various manufacturers and products within the market. Obvioulsy I can correct and amend some minor errors that I've spotted but I had added the UKW URL as the source when I tried this before had it removed, which is fine, bu tI am a bit reticent to put in the work withouth being able to quote the source. I am sure that you will understand the reasoning in that.

I am extremely zealous about incoming links, as are most webmasters I should guess, and on UKW people can get almost live help with appliance problems which is most often the reason people (other than students) look them up as if they work generally people couldn't care less about them. It is not however possible to detail out the sort of feedback required to diagnose or repair an appliance in an encyclopedia, although Wikipedia is the best I've seen for a complete explanation.

Anyway, in a nutshell I'd like to re-publish edited versions of some of the articles in the following section of UK Whitegoods for reference, obviously edited to suit Wikipedia better, and quote the source.

http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content

We are currently actively trying to expand the manufacturer section that you can see there and a lot more brands and their histories will be there in due course.

Thanks for the time.

Kenneth Watt

?

Hi. I was wondering if you could create a new page/article that isn't covered by Wikipdia. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DannMc06 (talk • contribs) .

Sure, check out Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Starting a new page to find out how. Let me know if you have any questions, or if I can help with anything. Welcome to Wikipedia! --TeaDrinker 20:32, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

David Rockefeller Quotation.

I'd like to submit a quotation by David Rockefeller. I'm not sure how to use HTML language to edit a site so I used this instead? Hopefully someone can add it to David_Rockefeller#Quotations who knows how to...

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order" -- David Rockefeller

(statement to the United Nations Business Council, 1994)

As far as I can tell it is legit and can be verified by other sources as well.

67.175.220.26 22:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Anyone can edit Wikipedia, so you're welcome to insert your quotation yourself. You don't need to use HTML - in fact in this case it would be much better to use Wiki markup (a quick guide is located here). You can just follow the same format the other quotation use, and add your citation at the end. Let me know if you need more help, but I think you will be able to figure it out ^^;

As a note, also, I've wikified your link - for links to things inside the English Wikipedia you need only put double brackets [[like so]] to change things into a link. —Keakealani •talk•contribs• 23:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• While you're at it. Why not submit your quotation and the ones currently in the article to Wikiquote and replace the quotes with a link to wikiquote in a nice formatted box? - Mgm|^(talk) 23:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Featured Article

How do I nominate an article, which is, in my humble opinion, well written, to featured article status? I have already been to, Wikipedia:Today's Featured Article, where the instructions for requesting articles is, "Please place new requests at the top of the page." Can an expert (compared to myself at least), please explain these instructions to me, and, more generally, help a poor newbie such as myself? AndonicO 22:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

There is a good description on this page Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Have you also read Wikipedia:What is a featured article?? You might perhaps be interested in first doing a peer review before nominating an article. Garion96 (talk) 22:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Reversing redirect

A user has maliciously put a redirect on an article, with scant regard for the history of the article nor of the research which has gone into the article - the reason he gives is that "people can do their own research". How do I reverse a redirect, thereby reinstating the article? Rhyddfrydol 22:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

For the interested, this looks like it's Territories and Nations yet to send teams to the Commonwealth Games, which User:Astrotrain converted to a redirect to Commonwealth Games. Check the talk page for his explanation. I would have to say that after looking over the page pre-redirect, it was quite a bit of original research, which is not allowed, and did indeed refer to mostly territories that are not likely to take part. It could be merged into the Commonwealth Games article; Rhyddfrydol, you might want to take your comments to the talk page there. Tony Fox (arf!) 23:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I think you are not following the rule Wikipedia:Assume good faith. The change had an edit history and a comment in the talk page. You should probably engage in discussion on the talk page as the original user proposed, rather than immediately accuse him or her of vandalism. However, this is a normal edit, and can be edited in the usual way. Be sure you do not start a revert war, which can get you blocked under Wikipedia:Three revert rule, and bear in mind that no amount of work in preparing an article makes it immune to the Wikipedia:No original research rule. Notinasnaid 23:04, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

All the above being said, if there is sufficient reason to go back and edit the article which contains the redirect, you can go to the article, be redirected, and then up the top under the (redirected) article title it should have small text saying "Redirected from (redirect title)", and you can click on (redirect title) to get to the article in question without being redirected. Or you can add &redirect=no to the URL. Confusing Manifestation 01:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

envy

Hey, there! Did you have a question? :) Luna Santin 23:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Linking to History of Lighthouses

Dear Wikipedia,

I tried to create a link to the article: History of Lighthouses. I tested the link and got the response that this page didn't exist.

I did a search for: History of Lighthouses and got directly to the page: History of Lighthouses so there appears indeed to be a page: History of Lighthouses

You can also get to the page: History of Lighthouses by entering: Roman Lighthouses

This seems curious. Can you enlighten me about this?

Valerie Harvey (vharvey4)

Thanks!--Vharvey4 01:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Huh. My best guess at this point is that you're running afoul of capitalization -- Wikipedia is caps-sensitive, past the first character. History of Lighthouses and History of lighthouses are considered different pages, by the file system. Does that make sense, and more important, does that seem to answer your problem? Luna Santin 01:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Kyle Mullin

Kyle Patrick Mullin, born Jhonen Jauques Jacquliune VIII, was born in the quaint town of Butler NJ. I think. Not to be confused with the 1908 Swedish football player, Kyle Moolin. He is currently in a relationship with a tall Polish girl, whose identity will be concealed. Lets call her Jose.

Born on April 52nd, 1873, he is the only remaining person alive to witness the pwning of the Titanic, Lusitania, and the Red Baron. Whence witnessing all of these events, eyewitnesses recall hearing "PWNED, BITCH!", followed by a Cromwell Thrusting of the air.

He then served in dubya dubya II, also known as WWII. He single handedly stopped Hitler by getting Lou Diamond Philips, as Timecop, to assassinate that hoser.

After that war, he served in Mission Pie, a secret mission to gain control of the pie ports in Saint Petersburg. He then bombed Moscow in the Cold War, and then joined a basketball team, the 1963 Chicago Bears. Though the team was massacred on a busride to play the Kansas Knicks, he survived, and later took credit of inventing the Crapper, though Daniel James Plucinsky I did. So there, bitch!

After dying in Nam, he moved to Louisiana, then back to Butler, where he became known as SON OF SATAN to many old women.

He now lives in his mothers basement, obsessed with WoW.

He pwns those n00bs in soldat, too.