User talk:Thirty-seven

Politics of Canada Page

You told me to partake in discussion at the Politics of Canada page, which I've done. I'm doing my best to follow Wiki guidelines and do not know the complete ins and outs. I'm wondering what authority you have to tell me to stop adding an external link page there, please explain.

If you do not have authority please note I am following Wiki guidelines and added 'edit notes' to my additions. As we have dispute I am also contacting you directly to see if we can reach compromise, as suggested by Wiki.

I await your reply, Thank you, Dancingwatersdancingwaters sept. 04'06,12:13am

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--Robojames 17:28, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I am following guidelines and have posted on the pages asking for support. I don't think 3 people reverting my links constitutes 'many', 'a few' would be more appropriate wording and perspective. Besides posting in the discussion on these pages Wiki recommends dispute resolution 'talking it out and reahing compromise', so I urge you to follow along. I've stated my case and feel my link follows Wiki guidelines. As compromise means 'giving' to reach peace, I will committ to building on a humour section for these sites. What are you willing to give? Dancingwaters 07:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Canadian coin images

Hey, you asked about coin images. Actually, I don't even have a camera, I used a flat-bed scanner and just scanned the coins directly. I cropped them and adjusted balance and whatnot if necessary.

Funny story, I work using the scanner, so i scanned them over a week, checking my change every time I got coffee for the coins with the updated portrait. Anyway, good luck, Robojames 23:42, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Canada

Very good point, I think people can make the argument that Canada is becoming less and less dependent on the US, maybe we should try and re-word it to that extent. Tawker 08:32, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On April 18, you made and edit to Canada with this summary "Changed 'referenda' to 'referendums' as per my explanation in Talk page". However, I could not find your explanation on the articles talk page. Could you please provide one? Andrewjur e n(talk) 01:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian coinage & Canadian banknotes

You did good work there! I looked for ways to help with the split, but you had already done everything I could think of. :-) Luigizanasi 06:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Norfolkcoa.jpg

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Thanks

Thanks for the Barnstar. I really appreciate it. But truly, it's been a team effort on the Canada article recently :) -- Jeff3000 14:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Norfolkcoa.jpg

I noticed that after Norfolkcoa.jpg was deleted, you removed the link to it from the Norfolk County, Ontario article. According to a warning placed on this Image's page a week ago, it was deleted because it was only tagged as a Coat of Arms, which does not necessarily mean it is fair use. I'm the person who uploaded this image and I included comments explaining why I thought it qualified as fair use, and provided a link for the source. I thought that this would be OK, because the uploaded Image:Ottawa Coat of Arms is also only tagged as a Coat of Arms and provides a link to its source, but has no explicit justification for Fair Use.

Both Coat of Arms images (Ottawa and my deleted Norfolk) have the same source: www.gg.ca - City of Ottawa www.gg.ca - Corporation of Norfolk County

The point of my long-winded comment is:

Do you know why these two images were treated differently?
If there was no significant difference, does that mean the Ottawa COA image should be deleted, or that the Norfolk COA image should not have been deleted?
Most importantly, if you don't know the answer to these questions, do you know where I should ask them?

Thanks! --thirty-seven 09:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The explanation will be long-winded too, sorry :) First, to explain {{coat of arms}}, this tag is more an indication of the content of the image than a copyright tag. Just because it's a coat of arms does not mean we have a license to use it, or that the image is in the public domain. Often a coat of arms will be fair use but that is not a guarantee. Sometimes a coat of arms may even be in the public domain or licensed any other way. It's further complicated by the fact that in Europe there is a designation "coat of arms", which applies to a text description of the image, yet the actual rendering is subject to copyright by the creator. So the short answer is {{coat of arms}} is a useful tag but it does not replace either source or license information.

As to why the images were treated differently, we are dealing with a huge number of images in a very distributed fashion so variations are bound to occur. That doesn't mean we shouldn't follow policy, but we should probably err on not deleting images. In this particular case the image that was deleted was uploaded 11 May 2006 after the implementation of an automated system that checks for license tags after upload. This was done to try and help us address problem images faster and notify users in a timeline where they might be able to help rather than waiting until we could get to it. (usually we have a multi-month backlog with the manual system). Image:Ottawa Coat of Arms.jpg was uploaded before that system was implemented and we aren't currently looking at those images, so it has not been tagged as having no license. It does need a license though, and might be deleted in the future, but it's not tagged now, and there is no current system/project in place (except a random user seeing it) that would tag it. I'm also not going to tag it because I personally think it's weird to tag example images like this when they are brought to my attention, I like letting normal processes do it, because it seems mean to me otherwise :)

I hope I answered your question, and am happy to answer questions about this anytime, if you want a more centralized place though Wikipedia:Media copyright questions is useful, but there's a good chance I might answer you there also :D - cohesion 18:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]