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Click on the plus sign at the top of the screen to leave a new message. I think you can handle it from there. (This message brought to you by "Wikipedia for dummies".) ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 20:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blindfold

Thanks for your work on blindfold. The sort of changes you made were about exactly what I had in mind when I suggested the merger. Good work! Hogtied 07:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and you're welcome. I agree that multiple articles about the same thing aren't always necessary. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 07:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spidey 3 Cast

Maybe we should use the forward slash, that is the way the other Spider-Man pages distinguish characters. It could be assumed that it would be the best way to go about things, to follow how the previous pages note them. Bignole 21:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Maybe we should start saying "Pwn" instead of "own", too. I want to pwn a car, et cetera. Give them an inch...you know the rest. Direct me to articles I can fix. This is bad grammar no better than not spacing after using commas or caps abuse. I'm really surprised you'd cave like this after all you went through to keep spec out. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 21:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's hardly caving, I've just never put the effort into fighting to keep the forward slash with the aliases. That is the way they appear in the credits, and the way the other two Spider-Man pages distinguish between character aliases. It's just fair to keep all the associated pages together. If you have 5 Batman pages, you don't call him by a different name on each page, do you? I think in this case it may be best to go with the "pwn" crowd (even though it pains me to even say pwn..cause I want to smack people for actually saying that). Bignole 21:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, i'm tucking this in this section so it's not so obivous... take a deep breath on the Spider-Man 3 page. Most of the editors who actually use the talk page there really want to help... some are dumb, but they mostly mean well there. (unlike other parts and pages of wiki) ThuranX 18:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, thanks. I'm trying, believe me. I'll get a handle on it and be the ace edior I usually am in no time. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 18:52, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Dark Knight

Hey, just to let you know, there is no page called the burden of proof. However, seeing it makes me wonder if it wouldn't do a lot of good for those of us who pay attention to the future comic-themed films to pursue a 'Wikipedia:Burden of Proof' page, or find somethign with the same purpose and create a linking header template for adding to such films, instead of what was previously done at the The Dark Knight page by Erikster and myself, putting a comment warning of the need for citations. Thoughts? ThuranX 17:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Well, clear policy about citations and such would certainly help. I'm game. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 17:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, give me a little time to look around wiki, and if I find nothing, I'll try to comp up some text for the template box, post it here, and after agreement, create a subpage off my userpage for staging, and we'll work from there.ThuranX 17:45, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so comping seemed easier to jsut do IN the webpage. Please look hereUser talk:ThuranX/CitationTemplate, and give me feedback. I've tried to phrase it confidently and politely.ThuranX 17:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. Color's nice, too. Couldn't have done it better myself. ACS (Wikipedian);

Thanks, I'm going to post it at Template: Citation now.ThuranX 18:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or not. I've got to find a place for it, because the citation templates are for creating citations, not for asking for such citations. I'll ask over there, find a place for it.ThuranX 18:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cite your edits? Template Cite your sources? ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 18:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see from the color change, it's done, thanks!ThuranX 18:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, and you're welcome. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 18:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to link User:Erikster to the template, get a third opinion. If he's down with it, we can add it to such coming films as The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Hulk 2(or it's title of the week), and so on. ThuranX 23:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd recommend fixing it first, and try not to ignore your talk page, man. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 23:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Better. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 23:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding that last GIPU edit, I believe the punchline you wee looking for was 'alllll we arrre saaayyying, is give Heath a Chaaaance'. ThuranX 23:45, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha. That would have been classic. Damn. Why didn't I think of that?

(cause I'm cool like dat)

I intended the template to be on the Talk page, not the main page. I'm not sure if putting it on the article itself is confrontational or not. On a page like the Dark Knight, I understand the up-front placement, but I do wonder if that won't be taken wrong by other editors.ThuranX 04:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you worded it very nicely. It doubt anyone would take offense or want to remove it—for non-vandalous reasons—any time soon. Honestly, though, I also sometimes wonder what good templates do on talk pages. Look {{controversial}}. Someone can just, like, look up any "controversial article" and edit it at their leisure. No sign of a problem. No thought to facts, tension or disputes. With something like this, especially, I'd think that it's critical we place it on the top front page. Even a simple change to the cast would need some sort of source. Plus, it's not so much a "matter of fact" or "this needs to stay (out of sight)" thing like..."this got a grade A! lol". The template would be largely useless after all the facts have been gathered. However, right now we can't even prove Holmes is in or out. That's...bad. Then there's this between stuff and the Harvey Dent casting. It's not Spider-Man 3, but if the casting of the Joker is any example, this is an article which needs a majority of it's edits to include citations. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 04:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DPL

You added Rancid to the list of articles to be fixed from the July 17, 2006 database dump; however, this article was not in that database dump, and adding new articles to the list upsets the maintenance of the progress counter. You are, of course, welcome to work on Rancid or any other article, just please don't alter the original list on the project page. And thanks for contributing to the project! --Russ Blau (talk) 11:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Sorry. Heh. Just trying to help. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 18:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Symbiotes

Hi, I've noticed you working on the symbiote articles as well and you seem to know your stuff also. Do you know about this Venom combining with Thor 'What If' story that someone keeps adding to the list of Venom hosts in the Venom article? I've never heard of it and can't find any reference to it so I can't tell if its real or not.Darkwarriorblake 18:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent source, and he got the hulk as well. Thanks for the info.Darkwarriorblake 01:48, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Superheroines

Well, it looks like I just screwed it up, plain and simple. I'm not a big comics fan and we've been having quite a day in vandalism patrol, so I see an IP editor add 'Barb Wire' and I think of the stuff that's strung out on our farm to keep the cattle in, not a superheroine. *slaps herself as punishment* Sorry about that - revert me to your heart's content! Thanks for letting me know - Baseball,Baby! ^balls^•^strikes 01:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh. I had nearly the same reaction when I first saw it added. Thanks for clarifying...with a self-slap, no less. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 01:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but no thanks

Thank you for disambiguating in this edit, but I didn't want it for my userpage. I'd rather just leave them ambiguated (is that a word?) Anyway, - Bagel7 19:54, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Feel free to change it back, if you like. It's funny, I thought about avoiding userpages altogether, but a lot like yours seem so clearly marked, I thought it'd be lazy not to get to everything. Sorry if it caused any problems. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 20:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Class

I've dropped a note about original research to User:Quatropods, hopefully that will clear matters up. Good catch. Steve block Talk 20:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Griffin Grey

What about moving it to Griffin (DC Comics)? That would make more sense as a redirect. I made Griffin (Comics) a disambig page. (forgot to sign) -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 21:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nah. Now that I know about the marvel guy, i'll leave it be. Grey might just retire. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 21:59, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Transformers

Seeing that you are a fellow editor that watches The Dark Knight and Spider-Man 3, I was wondering about your opinion as how to approach the Transformers article. I have no knowledge of the Transformers universe, but the article is incredibly disreputable at the moment. I'd like to work on improving it (as The Dark Knight and Spider-Man 3 have been shaping up), but I don't know where to start. Any suggestions? --Erik 16:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. Well, I'm mostly about maintainance with upgrades. Don't necessarily known how to fix it, but I suppose the place to start would be the "internet leaks" section. It's probably the most blatent issue. There and other places in the article, most of the external links could stand be transformed—forgive the pun—into proper references. Statements about "fan reaction" or "controversy" should probably be removed or changed. As mentioned on the talk page, there probably shouldn't be too many instances of nicknames being used over real names. Other than that, I'm not sure. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 17:15, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Class

I reason I deleted the reference to Lisa de Moraes in the class is because I felt you did not identify who she is and it was a matter of opinion and not fact. I also felt it distracted too much from the entry. I'm sorry if you felt this was vandalism. After all this is Wikipedia. Just my opinion.

Symbiote reflections

(here's as good a place as any...) I like the split reflection image you made and added to the SM3 page... I wonder though, is there an 'original' comics page image available? That would probably be even better if available, and eliminate the 'middle step' of the cartoon. We've seen other covers and such built into the films as shots, (like the trash can costume shot, peter's back to the viewer walking away in #2). Just a thought... On another note, I added you to a list on my user page. ThuranX 21:10, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A new section would have been fine. It's easy to archive my usertalk if I feel the need. Oh and thanks for adding me. I really dig that what I'm doing is really appreciated. Now then, the comic image in question is far less relavent, I'm afraid. For starters, the SG cover is not the originator. The bonding, history, character, time of day, positions, etc are all different. Still, I'll let you see your yourself. click here. I do see a similarity in how the symbiote is coating/immitating the costumes of SG and Movie-Spidey, but with the differences outweighing the similarities, I'd rather not complicate things by trying to show all three images. I think i'll change the text in the trivia section and mention this on the article talk page. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 21:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NOt what I meant. What I was getting at was that I suspect that there's a panel or cover from the late 80's, right when the whole 'suit is teh ebil' story started, that that scene is meant to evoke, like the aforementioned trashcan suit shot. I may be wrong, but clearly, the cartoon predates the spidergirl cover, and I wonder if there isn't an actual spiderman comic cover which predates the cartoon. It is that original shot which i'm interested in. ThuranX 23:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coronis isn't a Sockpuupet

Hi ACS, I haven't checked my old talk poage in a while. Long story short, My internet provider uses dynanmic IP addresses, and one of them was used by MetaStar during an edit war with DrBat. then I get accused of being a sockpuppet, and checkuser "confirms" it. But now I'm NeoCoronis, and everything has been fine so far. NeoCoronis 02:54, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Punisher 2

This article's been nominated for deletion. If one future comics film goes, more will follow. I'd like some help tightening it up. Thanks. ThuranX 23:52, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MrSteveee

I still don't understand who made you the grand aribitor of such things. Your response just says that you justify your actions because you choose to do so. That smacks of pompass behavior. In my world, groups of people come to a concencus on such things, not just arbitrarily revert someones contrinution to an idea because they don't like it. Irrelevant, I guess you're king of your little pond, so enjoy it. It's a dirty, smelly pond anyway.

I'm not going to read the above, but I do want to ask: You have a pond, ACS? Do you also have ducks? I've always thought it would be nice to have a pond in my backyard. Some people I know who have a pond, their daughter died, and I think of it whenever I drive past their pond. When you think of it, ponds are kind of sad. I still want one. Now. Make me a pond. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 10:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your Comment on my Talk Page

Sorry for that. It was doing WP:GUS work, so usully I find the closest edit button and subst the userbox. In the future, you might want to put embedded comments at the top of different sections so that people know not to edit them. I usually pay attention to html comments, not so much to other ones (especially when subst over 300 userboxes). -Royalguard11^Talk^Desk 17:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ernest Givnes

I'm sorry if it did not pertain to wikpedia standards, but he is part of the staff as Hall Monitor. I can't find a site that says it, but if you dig deep enough, I am 100% sure that he works there.71.99.110.7 21:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GIPU

You used this term in your comments after editing Deadpool (comics) "Correcting stereotypical GIPU spelling". And you used it after one of my edits here Titans East "Revert and change. There. Citation is clearer. Hmph. The ignorance and nerve of some GIPUs.". What exactly does GIPU mean, and in what context are you using it? --Basique 16:22, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! I'm positively THRILLED that you asked, Basi-Boy. AF: What does GIPU stand for? ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 16:55, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Given the context of your earlier comments, the use of "GIPU" might be misconstrued as incivility. Maybe it isn't a good idea to continue using the term? --68.80.95.27 18:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nah. I see where you're coming from, Basi-Boy, but it's a perfectly fine term. No worse than "BTW" or "NPOV". I use it to quickly point out the difference between GIPUs and...say...registered Wikipedians. I'm not saying GIPUs shouldn't be allowed to edit, just know their accountless place. I mean...if you have an account, use it. Don't hide behind an IP address. Also, I've found that there are certain generalities relating to unregistered users. They do tend to make moire mistakes and be less aware of Wikipedia's policies. Also, they don't seem to respect registered users. I mean, if I didn't have the courage, integrity and/or dedication to register, I'd respect those who did. And you. You, yourself, seem to change (for the worse) when you're in that GIPU guise. What's up with that

I'll admit, though, that I might take it too far sometimes. I'll try to tone it down a notch...at least for today. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 18:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let's get something straight Ace I don't appreciate being referred to as "boy" anything in your comments. I consider GIPU a slur, and Basi-Boy offensive. If I do not choose to log in when editing, that is my business. Oh and I'll save you the trouble of reposting this, it's already on my page. --Basique 19:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dang. You're pretty sensitive, dude. (You don't mind "dude", right?) I'm not trying to be offensive, you know. Playfully assertive, at worst. I'm sorry to have hit a nerve, really. Oh, BTW, are you a brother? ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 19:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apology accepted in good faith. Moving on. --Basique 19:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But...I didn't get an answer...:( ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 19:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Geeze, Ace... I keep your talk on my watchlist for bot hthe common pages watches we have, AND the comedy value, but... really, dude. Don't ask him his race like that. No one can tell yours, so no one can tell if you use brother as a sign of camaraderie, or derision, or out of ignorance, or what. Finally, I agree that those who have accounts should use them and not hide behind passive-agressive GIPU/acc't behaviors. However, if it becomes an issue, remember we already have sockpuppet remedies for that. I don't think Bas counts for that though... ThuranX 20:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Well...>.> I'm black. I know I act like a crazy white boy, but I digress. I don't usually say "brother", but I thought he'd react better to it. I can't say I understand him, but I if he is black, it would at least explain a bit. He might take "boy" to be condescending or something statement of his inferiority/immaturity. And, quite frankly, we're probably the easiest race to offend. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 21:03, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pssh. You clerly haven't hung out with too many neurotic jews. Some (not all) of my folk hear 'germany' and assume it's a hitler oriented insult. freaks. But seriously, it's not even about whether or not people within a culture can use certain words or phrases to others of the same culture, but whether or not Wikipedia needs to have the hassles that come from the too-sensitive reporting such conversations when they find them, even if it's months after the incident. anyways, I don't mind, and you and I have far better projects to keep focusing on. Although, I must admit, knowing you're black, and Erikster is deaf means that now, the three of us, the unofficial comics films patrol group, are a setup for a LOT of bad jokes 'A jew, a black and a deaf guy walk into a bar...'ThuranX 21:22, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. That really puts things in prospective. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 21:34, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prod Tags

The {{subst:prod|REASON}} tag automatically creates a specific format for timestamps that is used by parsing scripts. When you generate it by hand or edit it, you break those scripts. Please tag prod's using only the {{subst:prod|REASON}} template and don't manually edit the parameters. One extra day on Feedback (movie) isn't going to hurt anything and some would argue the clock should only start from when it is properly categorized (which your original tagging didn't do). Let me know if you have any question. Thanks! -- JLaTondre 19:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

tfd

See [1] -- it's very similar to the guitarist deletion episode.