Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2006/September/11

Organized labour stubs

There have been several discussions about renaming these stubs. (original naming, rename one, rename two) They are not consistent and have generated some ongoing difficulties because of a couple conflicts: (labor vs labour) (trade union vs labour union). There are several choices to address this problem.

rename to {{Africa-worker-org-stub}}. Some previous objections to this have centered around the political connotations of the word “worker”. (redirects already exist)
rename to {{Africa-trade-union-stub}}. Some previous objections to this have noted that the word “union” has several uses, and "labor union" is the common usage in the US.
rename to {{Africa-labour-org-stub}}, with a spelling exception for {{US-labor-org-stub}}. This option is closest to the current names. Previous objections have noted the problem of inconsistency in spelling from country to country.

I would like to see one of these proposals adopted. As the original creator of most of these stubs I have had difficulty remaining… uh… detached from the discussion, and will recuse myself from further comment on this. Any of these choices (or others) will work just fine with me.--Bookandcoffee 17:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is also important for the {{worker-activist-stub}} to also match the other stubs, i.e. it should only be kept the way it is if proposal #1 is used.--Carabinieri ^T_T^a_a^l_l^k_k 19:28, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please tag any template or category that will potentially change under this proposal with sfr-t/sfr-c and the proposed new name? I for one am not going to be doing a bunch of renames in seven days' time at the risk of being told, "why did you move that stub type? I use it extensively, it wasn't tagged, and I didn't find out about the discussion until now". (Admittedly I did exactly that with some mil-stub cats, but there was lots of permcat precedent there, only categories were affected, and the nomination of the stub parent seemed to be entirely controversy-free.) Let's also be explicit about what redirects it's proposed to keep, and which to delete. Alai 23:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would favour a rename of all to X-trade-union-stub/X trade union stubs, since the permanent parent categories - even for the United States - are at "X trade unions". This also avoids the labour/labor problem and any political connotations with the word "worker". The use of the word union is only ambiguous when it is not used with the word "trade". I would, however, favour keeping worker-activist-stub, since not all activists working for the cause of workers' rights are trade unionists (note however that the category needs renaming to the correct punctuation). Worker-activist-stub is therefore more all-inclusive. Furthermore, since people who are active in workers' rights movements are, by definition, political, this should not run foul of any potential problems with the name. Matching the other stub categories isn't really relevant either, since it isn't for the same thing (it's for people, not unions) - an analogy here would be with Category:University stubs and Category:Academic biography stubs. Grutness...wha? 00:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]