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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Varitek (talk | contribs) at 08:13, 22 November 2004. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

The article states that this is a "disparaging term" and then goes on to list people who the term could be applied to. How can this article ever be anything besides a platform for POV-pushing and name calling? Even if the article is kept, the list needs to be removed (or at least provide evidence of who has applied the label to each person on the list). I mean, imagine if the articles for other disparaging terms (eg. Ugly American, Uncle Tom, Newbie to name three) had lists of "putative" candidates for labeling. If this term remains in use for a long time, maybe one day it will deserve an article. For now, I say delete. And if the vote is to keep, at least delete the lists (so please vote about that also, if you vote to keep the article). ~leif (talk)[[]] 07:03, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

This article is badly needed. Keep and cleanup. If anything, I applaud the editor that chose to combine both of these topics into one article. The list appears correct too. I think finding sources on these commonly-cited "in name onlys" will be no problem. Term has been in use for years and (at least "RINO") has fairly wide use. Enough that reporters ask questions about it and columnists toss it around. Ex: "Conservatives go RINO hunting" - Opinion "Moderate Republicans bemoan party's hard right turn" - news Cool Hand Luke 07:14, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Leif asks, "How can this article ever be anything besides a platform for POV-pushing and name calling?" Well, for example by being pretty much as it is right now. I'm not sufficiently well informed about US politics to be able to judge the article properly, but I know enough to recognize that RINO and DINO, as explained, fit several of the people listed and may very well be used for them. The article is polite and seems neutral. Unless there's a more compeling reason for deletion, keep. Hoary 07:48, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
keep. but back-up the the names with references. It's definitely a real topic, and DINO/RINO are real, in-use terms, but I'm not so sure about some of the examples. John McCain, for one, may be a social moderate, but I don't think he's a real RINO, certainly not compared to the likes of Lincoln Chafee. Ditto Arnie, who seems to be a committed Republican, despite being way to the left of most of his party on social issues. Varitek 08:13, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)